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Teacup, Oh No! Another Take On It I've kept quiet about this long enough. Now hear this! We, as humans do, tend to put everything into little compartments; "There are two kinds of people - the "haves" and the "have nots." Or to put it more simply - wives and husbands." In many cases, this helps to explain things without getting long winded about it. That's why we have full size, mid size, and compact cars. So the breed is called Yorkshire Terrier. Well, like it or not, and with all due respect to the breed standards, the common Yorkshire Terrier can and does vary greatly in size. Oh, make no mistake, I AGREE - There is no such breed as Teacup or Teapot Yorkshire Terriers. But, I DO believe in teacup and teapot sized Yorkshire Terriers. So, I think we should be more tolerant of the term and could go a long way in explaining it like this than to try and eliminate the idea. Let's face it. It's not going away. I know I'm not going to convince the diehards, but I do hope to offer some people another way of looking at it. |
:rolleyes: I've always wondered why people get so excited about it! So what if someone calls their dog a "teacup". The only thing I don't agree with is someone charging more $$$ for a "teacup". |
You are never gonna convince alot of people to accept the term teacup it just isnt going to happen. People have posted similar things before |
The term teacup has been made into a nasty word. So many people get scammed by sellers selling "teacup" puppies at outrageous prices. If they would list them as "teacups" and not jack up the price I probably wouldn't say a thing. It's just sad to say that that word is often used for someone to make extra money. That's why a lot of people get so upset. The scam behind it. |
I also feel the same way, as long as they don't charge more, It doesn't matter to me what they label them. When someone says they want a teacup, I immediate know they want a very small yorkie. |
Also another thing you should know that admin wont allow the term to be used in for sale ads and that was urged by members here |
I think you have a real point there. I guess the only problem I have is breeders who act like they have a special breed of yorkies and who are not honest with people about how fragile the little guys are or the health problems that are frequently associated. |
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My "battle" lies with those who continually and INTENTIONALLY breed these tiny ones with no regard to where they're going or concern for the health and genetic issues. Monetary issues don't concern me either.... if someone wants to offer a tiny pup for an extremely high price.... so be it... as long as that breeder's heart lies with THE BEST INTEREST IN THE PUP.... and the pup is not simply being sold to the "highest bidder".... No buyer or potential buyer is having his/her arm twisted to give a higher price than they feel is reasonable.... Just my 2 cents.... |
good topic The word teacup is used to explain size nothing more.It is not going away.I do however try to respect others feelings wether I know them or not. |
When people use the term "teacup" to me it means they have not done any research on this wonderful little breed. If breeders say it, it means they are after $$$ and not for the betterment of the breed. Dogs are living creatures and too many people buy them on impulse and guess what 50% of them won't stay in their first home. I will be tolerant when we have no more Yorkies going into rescue because people had no clue what they were buying and just thought they were cute. I hope I never see teacup being accepted in YT. We don't need more people breeding dogs just to breed dogs. I believe in a purebred dog and when people mess with the standard we eventually won't even recognize this breed anymore. |
I feel like there's nothing wrong with the term as long as it is used to describe a small yorkie and not toscam people. I am very against people trying to breed yorkies to make them smaller and smaller..making up names like micro mini's, etc. If a responsible breeder breeds two standard, healthy dogs and there is a small one in the litter then i feel like there is nothing wrong with calling that one a tea cup. What pisses me off is when people pay thousands of dollars for a tea cup... which was sold to them as a scam and grows to be a regular/larger yorkie. i personall would'ny buy a smaller baby... i have a 7.5 pounder and am looking for one about the same size. But everyone has diferent preferences. As long as the breeder is breeding in a responsible way, i dont see any reason why a term such as tea cup cant be used to describe their size. |
I don't have a problem with the word teacup being used. I have a problem with breeders PURPOSELY breeding tiny females to produce tinies all in the name of a dollar. Someone on another post mentioned that they are small and had five kids or something like that - another words defending their breeding of TINY females, then I had a breeder who breeds small once say "Well bugs have babies." I mean DUH - this is your best defense. I have five Yorkies. My biggest is 17 lbs (A rescue and a Teapot) and my smallest is 3 lbs. also a rescue and a Teacup) Yes, I said teacup but it does not mean I agree with breeding for this size and I think because many like myself are so disgusted with the greed of breeders that breed tiny females for a buck that this is why people are so turned off by the word teacup. Notice that no one makes a scream when people use the word Teapot when discribing their Yorkie, that's because breeders don't breed big Yorkies to produce big Yorkies because their is no money in it. Just my .02 Elaine |
If the word "teacup" wasn't used to describe small yorkies, another word would be. There's just no getting around it. I don't think the word in and of itself is bad, but the way it's often used (to scam or by breeders who just don't care) IS bad. |
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I'm going to say that most people on here know there is no such thing as a "tecup" per se but I wish people would not get so offended, specially when people here use it. It is mostly only being used as a term to describe a tiny dog. Steping down now.... |
In the old days wasnt a teacup a RUNT??? The smallest in a litter? I do not like the term only for the reason people are breeding to get the RUNT just for the money.. That being said if there wasnt a need for them they wouldnt do it. Just like a designer dog... MUTT right? People just gave them a better name to make money off of them. Again if there wasnt a need for them people wouldnt get away with it.. Sorry just my 2 cents!!! |
Since the YTCA doesn't recognize different sizes within the breed like Poodles, for instance, there is no such thing as a "teacup" Yorkie. The standard only calls for Yorkies to be under seven pounds. I think everyone jumps on the use of the term "teacup" because it suggests that whoever is using it is either unaware of the breed standard or is deliberately trying to mislead people. It's a huge red flag when you see it on a website. I just cringe whenever a see a picture of a poor puppy crammed into a teacup to show how small it is. :mad: |
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Both of mine were purchased from very reputable breeders. My husband and children came with me to pick out each one. The two we have were picked because of their personalities. At 8 weeks we put down a deposit and at 12 weeks, we were able to come home with our babies. Just so happens they didn't get very big and that's OK. I'm never offended by the teacup term, I always try and educate the person asking, that it's just a category some breeders use to categorize a puppy, that's it's estimated not to get as large as the normal Yorkie breed standard. |
I dont agree with breeders that breed tiny yorkies just to make more on their teacups either BUT I have seen yorkie puppies being sold on YT for more because they are "tinies" (just another word for teacup) I dont understand the double standard. Its all the same...just using another word in stead of teacup (tiny). The word teacup is used to describe the size of the dog...what is the big deal? I just dont get it. Its ok to use the term teapot...it should be ok to use the term teacup it means all the same thing, describing your dogs size. |
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I think sometimes it is just a word and sometimes it is part of a big scam. I know the difference, but a lot of people don't. I remember a poster on here who insisted her dog was a teacup, because the breeder told her so. The dog would not get over 3 lbs. because it was a teacup, the breeder told her so. Problem ? The pup reached the 3lbs. at about 3 months. I wonder how many people are sold "teacups" only to learn there is no such thing, it is not a special brand of Yorkie. |
Before I knew much about yorkies and the word teacup, I bought a yorkie, the breeder called her a teacup, said she would be about 4 lbs full grown, well, put a one in front of the 4 and that's what I got...I do have a problem with people advertising teacups, and I always will have that problem..yes, there are compact and midsized cars, but a car is not a dog, and it's totally different when you're talking about a car..Knowing what I know now, I would never give a breeder a chance, if they advertised as having teacups or minis or anything else..All I see from breeders like this is $ signs in their eyes...:( |
I think the people calling there dog a teapot are making fun of the people calling a dog a teacup. |
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This is a great discussion...... and it is great that we can agree to disagree... and understand the other persons reasoning. I do understand that it is a "size" ....... but I also think that MOST of the time the term is used in a way that does no justice to the Yorkshire Terrier Breed. That is why I don't like to use Teacup as a description. :thumbup: :thumbup: Great Thread :thumbup: :thumbup: |
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Well, when I first heard the term 'teapot', I fell in love with it. That term made it MUCH easier to describe our 14 lb Yorkie. We were calling her our "Texas sized Yorkie!":D |
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I don't use the term "teacup" , and I don't let it bother me either. If someone asks, I explain that their is no such thing, etc... But the word doesn't bother me. Thats all it is - a word. |
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