Again I'm not asking ABOUT YOU

How do you explain this?????

If Show breeders don't breed for tinies how can this reputable show breeder guarantee under 3 lbs for 3500.00????????
http://rondelkennels.com/nursery.html

So are you saying this breeder is not reputable????

I will say it again..I do not know this breeder and their practices.....I would suggest that you contact them yourself.....I can only answer for myself as I have been schooled by some very old established lines and can only answer for myself and what I do. I really don't care what others do.

Fair enough ty.
But would you now say that not all reputable show breeders breed to standard!

All reputable breeders attempt to breed to the standard....however, it is known that breeding yorkies is not an exact science as in poodles; being able to breed phenotype to pheotype you will get what is expected. A breeding will occasionally yeld a tiny or one above standard.....And since we breed primarily
for ourselves for our next show dog to add to our breeding program those that don't fit what "we" are looking for are placed in pet homes on a spay/neuter contract.

Here is another interesting excerpt from the YTCA website:

“First we have the Skye known as such since at least 1576. For years there existed within this breed two types of coats; the long harsh haired coat and the long silky coat. The allowed colors were dark or light blue, gray or fawn with black points. As time went on and dog shows came into being they were all shown as broken haired Scotch Terriers even the silky blue and tan ones. There even existed a class for Skyes under 5 lbs.

The breed was finally allowed a class for Skye Terriers. In due coarse friction arose among the Skye fanciers as to which texture was correct for the breed. After much contention the silky coated blue and tan, and the all blue silky coated ones were disallowed, partly as they continually took the prize over the harsh coated dog.

The breeders of the silky coated variety wanting to continue showing and breeding their dogs renamed them Clydesdale (blue and tan) and Paisley (all blue). Thus we have two new breeds. The Clydesdale carried all the points necessary to lay the foundation for the Yorkshire Terrier.”

I assume they said they were disallowing the silky coated blue and tan and the all blue silky coated ones for the betterment of the breed!!!!!! Fortunately for us the breeders had the ability to just rename the breed. If this would have happened after AKC and the YTCA were founded we would not have the Yorkshire Terrier as we know it today.

Nothing has changed, the true fact of the matter is that the YTCA and many want-a-be breeders(show breeders) are only concerned about protecting their own breeding programs. Breeding for the betterment of the breed is just a smoke screen. If small yorkies weren’t such a threat you wouldn’t hear a word from YTCA.

I am sorry but I think you are painting her into a corner to try and get her to put her personal opinion on a forum that many, many people read. This is a well known kennel and each person has to decide what is reputable. It is a known fact that many show breeders could care less about their dogs and it is all about their ego's. Being a show breeder does not mean they are all reputable. Each person must decide what is right and what is wrong even if someone has beautiful dogs.

Also a guarantee is just a guarantee based on %'s (in other words betting it will stay a certain size). If the dog grows larger than 3#'s then they just give them another dog and then turn around and sell the larger puppy again.

I stand behind what Mary is saying! As it stands now...any off colored yorkie other than the blue and gold will be disqualified in the show ring (with the exception of a puppy because we all know puppies are born black and tan) so if you have an off colored yorkie or a yorkie with a bad bite, bad knees, bad liver whatever the issue don't breed how hard is that? It's NOT HARD you just spay and neuter! Why is the standard so hard to understand and why would anyone want to deivate from it is beyond me. Now that said, I try and breed to the breed standard and abide by the code of ethics and code of conduct set forth by the YTCA plain and simple not hard! And if the standard changes then so be it, but my main priority will be breeding healthy dogs and dogs I am proud of!

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

no matter how you attempt to spin the words they will still come right back at you....

I might add the second quote:D

Adapted From: Yorkshire Terriers For Dummies

Knowing What an Ideal Yorkshire Terrier Looks Like

Then why is it all right to bash every one else?

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Do you honestly think anyone here is going to be fooled into falling for such an absurd statement?:rolleyes: LOL...please, give the members of YT credit for having at least a little intelligence.
It does not take a genius to realize who has the best interest of this breed at heart. All you have to do is take most any breeder pumping out tiny 'teacups' for a huge profit and put it up against a show breeder of 30, 40 years to see where the 'smoke screen' is.
You get "hear words" about breeding these tinies from more than just the YTCA--I can point you to MANY people on this site alone who have experienced heartache thanks to the tactics of the unethical breeders and their quest to meet supply and demand of the current trend and pull a nice profit. Then when the trend changes, they move on to further cushion their pockets--and who gets to clean it all up? The YTCA, show breeders who dedicate their LIVES to these dogs, rescue groups, shelters....oh yeah, and the heartbroken pet owners forced to deal with the result of some scums greed. :(
If informing unknowing, would be victims of the harsh truth is bad for business for millers, brokers and the unethical nationwide, I really won't lose sleep over it.:cool:

Small yorkies aren't a threat at all. I have a 4 pound yorkie and love her to death and she's of my breeding, would I breed her HE** NO! She's too presious to me to risk her life!!!!! I have a 6 month old and I plan on showing her because she's almost 4 pounds but if she doesn't make 5 pounds or over she will be spayed and placed very carefully in a pet home!! People it's not hard to breed responsibly and if you know it's wrong why do it? Why would anyone want to risk the life of one of these presious sweet little dogs? It's beyond my comphrension!

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

Did you see me bash anyone? I have asked you one question that you still have not responded to "what are the pro's of a tiny"?

Having been involved with Yorkie rescue, I see the end results of bad breeding, breeders in it just for the $$$ and people buying the dogs because of fads. I could go on.....

Thanks for your support (and I think that is what you are doing)....But, being a big girl and around for a long time, I do have my ducks lined up and ready. And I don't mean that in a sarcastic way....just that when I speak, I speak for myself and won't be angered or intimidated