I should add they not only fit your pocket, they strip your wallet while padding the breeders pocket book.

I have found ONE show breeder that sells their champions for $12,000.00
http://rondelkennels.com/nursery.html

that being said most will place a finished champion dog/bitch $5000-$6000 unless placed overseas, I've seen up to $25,000.00 BUT that is a well established/respected kennel.

why can't i make any posts ?

Are you saying that the foundation dogs of the yorkshire terrier were terrible dogs.

I know that you are a show breeder and breed for the larger yorkies for show. But do you have any experience breeding the small yorkies. But from my experience and the experience of a few other breeders that I know your statements just aren't true.

NO what I clearly stated breeding the structure down is NOT building a pure desirable foundation, nor breeding for the betterment of a breed!

You might want to invest in the DVD "the puppy puzzle" it is not breed specific it is universal.....proper STRUCTURE does not exsist if you are BREEDING down a breed no matter what the kind of animal it is.

I guess you are not familiar with the YTCA website. Many of the original yorkies were shown in the 4 lb and under class and the 5 lb and under.

Did we all forget our dogs were originally bread to chase rats down the streets of london. It's not like they were bread to sit bye the kings and queens. Just love them and accept them for who they are now. Someone started to improve the breed. So glad they did. Be it big or small love them all.

I'm familiar with the YTCA website and a member. What you are speaking to is what transpired years ago at the inception of the breed and not what is identified in the standard today

Find it interesting you continue down this path...size shown in those two classes were over 40 years ago...like everything...times have changed, people become more EDUCATED, more conscientious more responsible!

Your brokering partner stated...price is justified because of the additional care needed for rearing a tiny litter, this statement alone speaks volumes as to the special needs of tinies.

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Show dogs are easy to find and easy to raise they are much bigger dogs and usually go home at about 8wks old tiny Quality tiny yorkies take a lot more care and a lot more time i usually keep them until the are at least 3 to 6 months old to raise tiny yorkies you have to be completly dedicated to what you do when they are born you need to monitor them at least every 3 hours there whelping boxes have to be at a certain temperture at all time and so on and they are much more difficult to find as well as there is not a large quantity of them available they only have 2 or three puppies a litter bigger show dogs have 6 to 7 puppies a litter so there is a lot more of them available as well. Natalie

Show dogs are easy to find and easy to raise they are much bigger dogs and usually go home at about 8wks old tiny Quality tiny yorkies take a lot more care and a lot more time i usually keep them until the are at least 3 to 6 months old to raise tiny yorkies you have to be completly dedicated to what you do when they are born you need to monitor them at least every 3 hours there whelping boxes have to be at a certain temperture at all time and so on and they are much more difficult to find as well as there is not a large quantity of them available they only have 2 or three puppies a litter bigger show dogs have 6 to 7 puppies a litter so there is a lot more of them available as well.
Natalie

Show dogs are not easy to find or easier to raise. As a matter of fact show dogs require special rearing as they are born to show but, must be molded. I consider myself very blessed if I get one show quality dog out of every 6 litters.

We do not let show dogs go at 8 weeks of age, we don't let pets go younger than 12 wees or more. (most likely keep them for ourselves), show dogs are kept a minimum of 6 months if not more, to make sure they won't fall a part. We won't place show dogs if we wouldn't keep them in our own kennel....after all it's our reputation in the ring.

As far as you statment that tines only whelp 2 or 3 in a litter....and bigger show dogs whelp larger litters......NOT..it's the same for either size.....What is why we are concerned with breeding a tiny....they can conceive large litters, therefore worrying us that they can carry a full pack litter and a litter this size can take alot out if a standard size dam, so you can imagine what it would do to a tiny.

So, again while there is concern/care for a tiny...it is and should be concern for any size newborn yorkie.....Everything in your above statement holds true when breeding any yorkie......that is if you are doing it correctly

actually as I reread her statement it is filled with justification for a price tag of $5000 yet it is merely the daily care for ANY LITTER no matter the size of the bitch/stud.

ALL PUPPIES can not regulate their own heat for the first 3 weeks
all puppies should be doted on regularly including ENS as well as weighed 3times a day for the first two weeks and once a day after that...
all puppies should be kept for at least 12 weeks of age
PAT testing starts at about 8 weeks
Size of the bitch does not yield a larger litter (meaning quantity)
must be fed often specially after weaning (free feed is the preferable method)

but found this interesting...no matter how you attempt to spin your words tinies are no more difficult to raise than a standard yet t$n$es price is always astounding!

If Show breeders don't breed for tinies how can this reputable show breeder guarantee under 3 lbs for 3500.00????????
http://rondelkennels.com/nursery.html

Pets: $800 to $2500 (All pets come spayed or neutered.)

Guaranteed under 4 pounds: $1800 to $3000
Guaranteed under 3 pounds $3500
Show-Quality: $2500 - $3500 (Full AKC Registration and breeding rights)
Prices will vary depending on quality and size of puppy.

They can't, no reputable breeder can guarantee size.....because the only thing you can depend on is that these Yorkies will make a liar out of you everytime.

I as a breeder/exhibitor do not advertise when I have a litter or when I have pups available

And as I said before....reputable breeders don't price their tinies at a higher price, they place those tinies in homes that are familiar with the care of them.

How do you explain this?????

If Show breeders don't breed for tinies how can this reputable show breeder guarantee under 3 lbs for 3500.00????????
http://rondelkennels.com/nursery.html

So are you saying this breeder is not reputable???

.....the operative word is reputable. I don't know this breeder on a personal basis or their practices. I can only speak of my dealins with long term established breeders and how they do business and they conduct it very much as I do.....I have one price for my pet yorkies, be they male or female and another for my show quality, be they male or female.....I place tinies in homes that are familiar with the care of them, since I won't sell heartace (even though they may be healthy, one does not know what can happen down the line). I don't place dogs on open registration to just anyone.....I don't want my pedigree in the hands of those that talk the talk but, don't walk the walk.