Backyard Breeder??
 

Ok I may sound like a complete idiot.. But i know im going to be on the search for a male soon soo. What is a Backyard Breeder??? I know what a puppy mill is ( or so i think atleast).. My idea of a Backyard Breeder is someone who raises there puppies out side and don't really care for them?? am i close? and a Puppy Mill... Someone who has tons of Dogs locked up and just breed them and pretty much don't have nothing to do with them?

Like i said i know this sounds like a stupid question but I really need to know... I mean i refuse to purchase a baby who lives in these conditions ... Altough i would wanna save a baby from it...

Do a search on here under "Backyard breeders" and all kinds of stuff will come up. peope have different opinions. A backyard breeder to some is a hobby breeder to others.

Make sure there aren't many different kids of dogs and not too many dogs in general. Make sure you SEE the parents. Ask for a pedigree. It's best if the person shows their dogs, rather than just had puppies because they thought their dog was cute. My trainer breeds labs and she only breeds her girls AFTER they have been finished in the show ring (she calls it the beauty pagent) AND the obedience ring. Make sure the dogs live in the house and not in the garage or outbuilding. They need constant socialization with littermates and humans. Puppies should be with mom until 12 weeks old.

Also, try petfinder.com and your shelters first. Sometimes it's hard to find Yorkies but it's worth checking first!

http://www.jlhweb.net/Boxermap/reputablebreeder.html

http://stoppuppymills.org/inside_a_puppy_mill.html

I think I got mine from a backyard breeder. That's what many people here said when I explained the situation. thanks everyone :) I don'tknow what ALL backyard breeders do or look like. Mine apparently cares for all his dogs. i went to his house, met the parents, saw all his dogs, about 10 of them at the time. But no pedigree, no AKC, he couldn't even supply me with the vaccine receipts. Of course I was foolish to not ask, but I let my emotions get in the way of everhting and got sammy :) which I love! and he sold him to me really cheap $500

The meaning varies. For some, a backyard breeder is anyone who breeds dogs that have not been championed. For others, it refers to someone who gets any pair of parent dogs and breeds them without any consideration for their background or the quality the breeding pair will produce. Certainly, there are those; however, there are many non-showing breeders who put more consideration and thought into their breeding stock and the puppies they strive to produce.

I can tell you!
 

I have a spoiled rotten example from one :)

Years ago when I got my very 1st yorkie I bought Rogan.

I went to their house to look at thier pups. The man brought them in from outside in a bucket. YES A BUCKET!!!) I ask to see the parents and was taken outside to this large fenced in area with like a barn. The dogs lived in the barn and there were all kinds just running around. He pointed at 2 of them and said there they are. (ahhh ya, ok?)

So I couldn't leave this pup, I had to take him. He WAS adorable.

He's now neutered. weighs 15 pounds, (well maybe a bit more :) he's been enjoying alot of treats lately) and after 2 different knee surgeries on both knees (double surgery TWICE) for LP, he seems to be doing fine.

Oh and they didn't have AKC papers for the pups and they only charged $300 for males.

We love Rogan to death and wouldn't trade him for anything - but THAT to me, is what a BYB is.

Whether the puppies are raised inside or outside has nothing to do with being a backyard breeder.

Backyard Breeders

Every breed of dog recognized by the AKC has a written standard, a blueprint
of what the dog should look like and act like. These standards were written
so that all would know what a quality example of the breed is and strive to
produce dogs that meet or exceed the standard in health, temperament and
appearance. To be sure you are breeding dogs that meet these standards,
your dogs must be judged by people who have a lifetime of experience among the
breed. Do you know the standard of the Pure Breed Dog? Does your dog
meet this standard according to an AKC Judge? If not, your dog is pet
quality. A pet is to be loved, cherished, trained, cared for, spoiled and
bragged about, but it is NEVER to be bred. No matter how cute or sweet the
dog may be, if it is not up to the standard, you have no business breeding
it.

If you have a purebred dog this does not give you the right to breed it.

Most purebred dogs are not breeding quality. If you breed your pet quality
dog, you are a backyard breeder, whether you breed the dog in your
backyard, garage, living room or an expensive hotel room, the term is still backyard
breeder.

If your pet quality dog has AKC papers, that's nice but it doesn't change
anything. You still don't have the right to breed it.

If your pet quality dog cost you $500 be glad you had the money to afford
it. You still have no right to breed it.

Do you think you can make your $500 back if you breed your pet dog or if
your pet dog is a color or size that isn't in the standard but you just know
everyone will want buy a pup if you breed her? Shame on you! Now you are a backyard
breeder with the purpose of breeding pups for bucks.

Ware you going to do when your beloved pet needs an emergency C section. Will you
even be there with her to know if she is in trouble? Would you recognize
trouble before it's too late?

Do you think genetic testing is something they used in the OJ trial but has
nothing to do with your dog breeding career? You are a backyard breeder.

Backyard breeders sell pups that aren't up to the standard of the breed.
They do this for many reasons. None are good enough reasons to contribute
to the killing of dogs. Period.

Backyard breeders will swear all of their pups went to a good home. They
believe this but it's not true. Some may have been lucky enough to go to a
good home but more than half of them will end up dead, in a shelter, alone,
on a cold table with a needle sticking out of their leg. Some of those good
homes will get tired of the dog and they will just give it away to anyone
who is willing to take it. Some of your beloved dog's children will end up
living alone in a backyard, barking all night, cold and neglected until the
owner gets complaints and then that pups will be dead. Some will be starved
and beaten. Some will be bred until they die from it. Some will end up in
rescue and I will have to find space for it in my home and I will have to
show it that not all humans are bad. I will train it, and feed it the
proper food so it can heal. I will take the fleas off of it and I will get rid of
the worms. I will give it the shots it should have had but no one
remembered to give it. I will do these things because the backyard breeder didn't do it
and wouldn't take the dog back when it was 2 years old and full of problems.

I will spay or neuter that pup before I find it a new home so that I will
never have to rescue one of it's pups and so I can be sure it will never end
up in the hands of another backyard breeder looking to make profit from
puppies.

Backyard breeders are not responsible pet owners. They think they love the
dogs but it's not really true because they don't really want to be bothered
with doing all that it takes to breed ethically. They love feeling
important when they say "I breed "Pure Breed dogs"". But breeding pet dogs isn't
something to be proud of. If a shame on our society. It's the reason for
the killing that goes on in shelters. Why do you want to be part of that?

Do you want to be respected? Spay or neuter you pet dog. There's really no
other way. The kind of homes you want for your pet pups don't want to buy
from you. They are looking for responsible, respected breeders who are
doing something for the breed as a whole. Most of those who will come running to
buy your pups are the kind of people I wouldn't give a dog I didn't like to.
They are the ones who will turn your puppy into a shelter when the novelty
wears off. That's a fact.

Want to stop the problem of killing 1 Million dogs a month all over America?

Spay or neuter your pet dog now and tell everyone you know to do the same
and leave the breeding to the people who are doing something to better the
breed.

http://www.nbran.org/breedornot.htm

I'm sure they are raised both inside and outside. I'm also sure everyone has many different stories too! :)

Great post Ladymom!!!!

Ladymom - that has got to be one of the best articles I have ever read. Thank you for posting it.

WOW, what a GREAT article!! :thumbup:

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Thank you for clearing that up for me.. I would hate to get a puppy from someone like that... As far as breeding my lil girl i surely dout im going to do so... When i take her for her last set of shots im going to see about getting her fixed actually... But thank you for informing me there is more to the term "Backyard Breeder" then what i thought ... I mean i guess in a way the girl i did get my lil one from was a back yard breeder... But i was not getting her to breed her.. yes people have asked me if i would and i would tell them i don't know i dout it.. It scared me when my other dog got pregnate.. I was worried sick.. i would prob have a nervus breck down if my lil baby would be.. and i didn't get her to be a show dog except to be in my liveing room shows when i dress her and talk about her 24/7 to anyone and everyone i know... its sad to read that most of the "backyard breeders" don't care about where there dogs go...

But againi would like to thank you for clearing this up for me like i said i am going to be on the look for a male soon.. but not for breeding or showing.. Just to have another lil furbaby to love and so Mi can have a little brother...

I agree with everything you said. There are some people on here that think unless you show, you are a backyard breeder. Well, if only some people knew some of these show breeders are little more than puppymills themselves. I say that because recently I heard of one very well known one that has anywhere from 60-70 dogs. You can be sure the small hobby breeder does put more thought and consideration into breeding stock than someone that has 60-70 dogs outside in a kennel. I was told tonight that I was called a backyard breeder because i came on Yt soley for the purpose of selling dogs. The person that said that would have known I didn't even have a dog when I joined YT if she had checked her facts before she sent a pm around accusing me of being a BYB, BTW, that pm was forwarded right to me.. I joined in August 2005, got Ceeby in october, Got my first female in January and had my first litter of pups in late August a year after I joined YT. and didn't even sell those puppies on here. it never ceases to amaze me the garbage people will pass around in pm's they think are private without even checking to see if they have their facts straight. I even did a search on myself tonight to see if I remembered the facts correctly.

This sounds more like a puppy mill type, I rescued My Maggie from something like that. She was used for breeding only and kept in a cage most of the time.
She was to old to have any more puppies
She is only 4 yrs and the vet said she has had alot of litters. for her age. she is spayed now. no more babies for her
However I bought Sissy from a Hobby Breeder, she was very muched loved while liveing there. This where I would buy another from a hobby breeder.

I feel like you i got my little girl from i guess its a hobby breeder.. She only let her girl have one litter of puppies.. Now she is fixed.. She loved those puppies and had the hardest time letting go of them when it came time for them to go to there new homes.. And she turned down many people until she picked ones who were worth owning a lil baby... Like Mi... someone offered her 1500$ for her even though i was only payin 750$... some of these "backyard breeders" or other breedes im sure would have been more then happy to sell her.. But she refused the women and i have my little one!!!

I have a very narrow view on what a reputable breeder is. In my opinion a breeder should be showing to be considered reputable (or at the very least have their breeding dogs evaluated by a breeder or judge very knowledgeable of the YT standard).

However, being a show breeder does not guarantee that they are reputable. So showing does NOT always equal reputable. But to me reputable means they are showing or involved in something depending on what they breed (ie. hunting, sledding, working dogs, etc.). But there is a LOT more to being reputable than just showing. To find a reputable breeder, you need to ask a lot of questions (and be expected to be asked a lot of questions in return).

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Excellent post!:thumbup:

This is what i dislike about pm's here. People who have sold their puppies here on YT, you just don't know what people are stating about you and it can ruin your reputation. You were very lucky to have someone forward you that message but most do not have it forward to them so they have no idea what is being said behind their backs.
I have even received pm's (not so nice) about the show breeders. My reply to them is ..."get a life, i do not respond to hateful gossip".

That's why you won't be seeing any more of my babies listed on here. I am done. It was just someone trying to discredit me because they didn't even care enough about what they were spreading to realize it could easily be checked by going to my profile and pulling up my old threads. problem is, the people it was spread to didn't bother checking either. They just kept spreading it. I think my join date is on page 9.

Showing your dogs does not automaticaly make you a good breeder. Anyone can show their dogs, but to actually have dogs that are good enough to win, means that you have done your research and have either purchased dogs that measure up to the standard, or that you have been researching and breeding dogs that are within the standard and that you have produced nice dogs that fall within the written standard of your breed. It takes time learn about the breed you are interested in, and what to watch out for in health issues.