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She is nutsssss Anyone elses furbaby go nuts when you try to put on or take off the harness?? It's easier to put the harness on, than off. When I try to take it off, she gets scared and starts to bite reallllly hard. The harness has a clip at the belly but the neck part has to be pulled over her head. My fingers hurt everytime I try to take it off, cause she goes NUTSSSS. |
Yup, Roxy does the same thing, she even hides when she sees me with it. She loves walks, but hates when I put the harness on and take it off. She tries to bite when I pull it over her head, crazy girl! |
I know exactly what you are talking about...Magic and Sailor used to do the exact same thing...they still do at times!!! The best thing we did was just keep doing it, everytime we take them out we make them stand still and let us put it on, it took a while for them to understand but now if they want to go outside they have to get their harness on first!!! |
I have a page on bite inhibition training that may help. You really want to make sure that she knows that biting is not allowed under any circumstances. If you'd like, I can e-mail it to you, and if you tell me a little more about her, (age, when she started this behavior, other things she may be quirky about) I might be able to give more specific suggestions. Hope I can help. Stacy |
Stacy, that would great! She really only bites when I try to put the harness on and off. I've tried taking it slow and praising and kissing her throughout. But I'm beginning to think that she's scared that she will choke or that I will hurt her. She is 17 weeks, and she was a total ankle biter and chewer. I didn't want her to bite even if it's just a puppy thing. So I began using bitter apple spray. A couple of times when she bit, I dabbed a drop of it on her tongue. It only took two times of that for her to stop biting. Now if she starts, I show her the bottle and no more biting. But it doesn't work with the harness. HELP! She is really small too so I don't want to hurt her while I'm putting it on. |
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I'm SO GLAD to see this - Mine go NUTS just hearing the noise the harness makes ......it's sooooo hard to get it on them for the wiggling and whining and talking and jumping and kissing and pawing and....lol....got the picture ? I actually have put Cheri's on wrong cause she was so excited I never got the clip right and luckily caught her as she started coming out of it...but talk about feeling like a moron - I can't even put on a harness ? yes... IT still takes me a good 5 minutes to put one on right...I thought it was just me ! |
I'm SO GLAD to see this - Mine go NUTS just hearing the noise the harness makes ......it's sooooo hard to get it on them for the wiggling and whining and talking and jumping and kissing and pawing and....lol....got the picture ? I actually have put Cheri's on wrong cause she was so excited I never got the clip right and luckily caught her as she started coming out of it...but talk about feeling like a moron - I can't even put on a harness ? yes... IT still takes me a good 5 minutes to put one on right...I thought it was just me ! |
Anybody wanting the bite inhibition page can PM me with their e-mail address and I'll send it along- I'm afraid it's sort of long to post-I don't know if there is rules about that...The bitter apple is okay for aversion therapy, but I prefer to try other methods first, though I have to admit to squirting the water bottle at some of my kids when they were on wild yap missions and having focus problems. |
Chewy hates putting on and taking off his harness. It's always a battle. |
I would stop the kissing and praising, It makes the process into a big deal and that may be part of why she's freaking out. She might also be sensing your fear about hurting her and dogs respond to fear with aggression.(which is another reason I'm not big on aversion therapy) First, make sure the harness neck loop can slip quickly over her head, if you need to loosen it a bit and then tighten it afterwards, do so. You want to be quick, calm and FIRM. With a quick snap harness, you should be able to unfasten it with one hand. Use your other hand to hold her head while you unclip. Loop your thumb over the top of her nose, your forefinger behind her ear and your other fingers under her chin. Hold her mouth closed firmly while you undo the clasp and pull the harness over head. You don't need to discuss it with her or negotiate. She needs you to be in charge for her to feel safe. After it's off a little praise is fine, but don't be excited about it. |
Yes !! Mya starts running on the spot as soon as she hears the second click of the harness being fastened. Mya still wears a kitten harness. The clips are at the back of the neck and on the back. I find it fairly easy to put on and easier to take off. |
You are probably sorry you asked For everybody whose dogs get really excited when they see the harness, I suggest putting it on at odd times of the day very calmly and quickly and then NOT going out, just ignore them for awhile and then take it off. Don't really ignore, keep an eye on them so they don't get caught on anything, but no playing, no treats, no excitement. If they stop expecting an out everytime the harness appears they should calm down. When they Do need an Out try to put the harness on about 5 minutes early and 'ignore' them for those five minutes and then clip on the leash and say out. |
I've tried being quiet and firm and letting her know that she is safe. But she still freaks out. If I hold her mouth shut, she can wiggle out of it (I can't believe a 2 pounder wiggles out of my grip) and freaks out even more. Help me stacy!!! |
...really sorry you asked Oh, also make sure you keep direct eye contact, stare her down while you are holding her mouth shut. You are the Alpha. |
NOW YOU'RE TALKING STACY...now THAT is something I can do well, stare her down. I never thought about that, I will try it. And I'm NOT sorry I asked, I love learning more. She's my first so I need all the help I can get. |
Have you tried doing this on a slick surface wher she can't get traction to pull away from you? (like a countertop) Right now, she is winning this battle because you let go. If she is wiggling away, you need to hold tighter or get someone else to help you hold her. Everytime she escapes your control, you have a problem that can get bigger fast. |
OH my Gosh I think I've done everything wrong that you've so far said not to do. Ok I'm going to go give it another try. I refuse to let her win me over (at least where the harness is concerned) |
Yep, same problem here. The only other thing I would add is Stomper would whimper like a baby when it was on...like he was being abused or something... |
:cry: Ok it went on ok, no movement from her at all. Now to tighten the neck area, that is a struggle. It makes me teary eyed each time because there is such a struggle and I feel like I'm being mean by holding her so tight. I'm crying right now. I can't do this. She's so small and looks so sad right now. I'm letting her stay in it for a couple of minutes before we struggle again to get it off. I just get so sad when I have to do this to her.. |
Same problem here, she gets feisty putting it on and taking it off. She does not seem to like harnesses, dresses, or bows. What a tomboy! |
vainchick- You did it! I am so proud of you. It will get easier every time if you stick with being the boss. I know she looks like a heartbroken, dejected little waif, but she will get over it, I promise, and will become the sweet natured charmer you want, instead of a tyrant whose shenanigans aren't so cute during a daily battle. It's very much like parenting- The best moms have had each kid scream 'I hate you!' at some point...in the end they are grateful for the boundaries and structure you provide, it gives them a safe, solid base from which to soar..truly spoiled kids are a pain in the butt, and not ever happy. |
Olivia doesn't get nippy, but she does growl to try to pretent that she's the boss. I thought she was getting better, but last night she gave me attitude when I put it on her. I do have to say, though, that she's only had it on a handful of times so she's pretty new to the whole harness thing. When I put it on her every day last week and made her walk around the house with it on to get used to it, she didn't say a word by the last day. How old is your baby? Mabye she just needs to get used to it a liitle more. I know Olivia is used to running around naked, so I'm sure anything on her must feel a little strange at first. |
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I saw them on line after I bought mine. If you're interested, I'll look it up for you. |
I just don't know if velcro would be secure enough though. And plus, at a certain point, you just want them to accept what they have. I can't keep spending tons of money on other things because she doesn't like it..you know? I want her to adapt to the things she currently has. Now if it was hurting or harming her, or if it was uncomfortable I would def. buy something else. But she's just being a brat about it and I don't want her to think mommy will always do the run around if she's a brat. But thanks for the suggestion, I might consider it if it becomes a big problem. |
Maximus too is a pain in the a**..when it come to putting the harness on..I make him do it but he drew blood this weekend...when he tried to bite me and I tried to move my finger his big too (canine???)..went right into my thumb..he realized and stood still after but I was SOOO mad...I ended up taking the harness of and went to get a pedicure instead..I know that didn't solve anything..but he didn't get to go the park which I think he missed???...anyways..I notice that if I open the door, pick him up and let him look out from the screen door it is like 10 times easier to get the harness on..but like Nobella I don't want to have to bribe him..I want him to realize I am not trying to hurt him because he acts like that is what I am trying to do |
I swear if anyone walked by, they would think I'm trying to kill her because of all the growling, crying and squirming she's doing. It's like when you take your kid to the store and they cry so much because they want something, people think you hit them or something. |
Katie is totally ok w/ my putting her harness on. In fact, whenever I take it out she gets all excited and runs over because she know that it's walk time! But Codie is a total NIGHTMARE! He tried to bite the harness and I slip it over his head. He does not bite ME but he growls and runs away from me. Strange dog! LOL :cool: |
For those of you having trouble with the harness that goes through the head maybe look into the that is step-in harness. It is much easier for both you and your baby cause you aren't trying to squeeze their head through it. You just basically put their feet in at the bottom and click it at the top. Makes like SOOOO much easier... I know I wasn't all that excited about buying another harness, but I promise it was money well spent! No more confusion on am I a putting it on correctly, etc... you have the thing on in a snap! |
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