Extremely aggressive behavior and bit me
 

Today my baby Sox who is now 4 months old was acting up really bad today. She was not listening to anything today and was showing some really aggressive behavior. I had to crate her as i was doing stuff around the house and she would not stop barking no matter what i did or said. she usually doesnt bark for very long or hardly at all till today. i took her out once every 15 min or so in between all the barking thinking she had to pee or something but nothing each and every time so back to the crate she went. She kept on barking so loudly and constantly that i put her and the crate into my room and put a blanket on top. she still wouldnt stop barking. i left her for about a half hour barking after repeated no, quiet, water spray bottle, and nothing. so i took her out again and no pee again so i went to put her back into the crate and upon doing so she turned her head around and growled, barked, then bit me pretty hard. she didnt break any skin but it hurt pretty bad. i told her bad girl and no and continued to shove her back into the crate. She usually goes in without any protest even if she is mad etc but this time i had to shove her in. she kept on barking for longer than an hour till she finally stopped and fell asleep.

two hours later i let her out leashed and fed her and she wanted to poop right next to the bowl. i said no and picked her up and put her in her box. she didnt want to go in the box. the box is clean as of this morning with new litter etc. the second she came out she tried to poop again. i dragged her back into the box which was only inches away from her. after doing this 4 or 5 times she finally went poo in the box.

dont know what is getting into her but this behavior is going on a little bit more frequently as the days go by.

any thoughts?

Is.

This is a link to the dog whisperers website. He addresses issues such as this. It all has to do with who is the pack leader in the house, and how to establish yourself as the leader.

Also everytime you took her out of the crate while she was barking just made matters worse. Once in timeout they should not be let out if the bad behavior is continuing.


http://www.dogchannel.com/experts/ce...aspx?WT.srch=1

She may not be feeling well. Tummy ache maybe? Sometime they just want a cuddle. They are used to body warmth from litter mates and Mom. Today Mya was crying and I went through the list, walked her, fed her, gave her water, played ball with her, checked to make sure she was ok, no sticks stuck in her fur ......finally I just held her...I was on the internet and took a 15 min cuddle break. It was good for both of us. Also make sure you don't have music up too loud ......booming ....they have very good hearing and I remind myself to keep the music down when she is in the car with me. I would check your baby over.....make sure no cuts or anything then try the cuddle. Remember puppies are well........puppies :D

Got bit again and really hard!!!!
 

Well here goes an update...

I GOT BIT AGAIN!!!!!

I let her run around in the kitchen for a few since she was behaving and she ended up with an apple peal in her mouth. I went to take it out and she flat out lunged at me and bit me and this time im surprised i didnt bleed it was so hard. Odd because Ive taken many many things out of her mouth including food and she would somewhat allow me to open her mouth and take it out.

So, of course i screamed as it hurted really bad and she did freak out for a second then i grabbed her told her no biting and yanked on the skin behind her neck until she let out a little squeal and then took her to her crate and left her there. She has been barking since. Ive been ignoring her totally and she hasnt stopped.

I think we definately need to get her to a class or something.

I reading up on the site that was recommended by the PP.

Thanks to everyone for their advice and suggestions

Is.

At my puppy class our teacher told us to do time out this way... Put a leash on your puppy, and put them on the other side of door in your house(I used a bathroom door) You shut the door and hold the leash so that the puppy has to sit in the other side of the door and can't go any where... You only do this for 30 seconds MAX!!! They can't remember why they are in time out after 30 seconds... Don't show anger..just an OH TOO BAD FOR YOU and matter of fact attitude works best! When time out is over they start with a clean slate every time... no anger or anything.
Chewy is a puppy too...6 months. The biting nipping has been a long road... At times when he was on a real roll I would do the time out thing. He would get the point after about the 5th time, and not bite for a long while.
Also As tempting as it may be I would NEVER use the crate as a punishment... It should be your babies bed, his little soft safe place he LIKES. I have tethered Chewy to me when I need to get things done, I gate off the hall upstirs to make it like a huge play pen where he can see me but can't get in my way as I clean my room, or the bathroom...Give him toys and water and food... Your baby wants to be with you... it's a little baby puppy. I know the biting gets old after a while and it really hurts but the cage is not the best place for it when you want to teach it lesson.
Hope some of this helps!;)
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Please don't waste you time/money-
 

I'm not sure where Worth, Illinois is, but if it's anywhere close to Grayslake, Illinois come and see me at TOPS in Dog Training and I'd be happy to help you stop this. Just ask for Leslie.
847-223-2822
You can always call and speak w/ me if nothing else.

Grayslake is about an hour and a half away from me. Too bad you werent closer but I just may take you up on the phone call though.

Thanks Leslie


Is.

I will definately try this out as I am open to anything at this point. I do have plans to enroll her in a class and see if that helps as well.

Is.

try to e mail ceasar millan i love him i have a secret crush on him

"I do have plans to enroll her in a class and see if that helps as well."

I'm sure it most likely will, where are you going for your classe(s) if you don't mind me asking?
A lot of people in your situation would waste their money going to say PetSmart or PetCo and they're not in the business of dog training to work w/ difficult dogs or specific behavior issues of this calibre. It'd mostly be about avoidance if they even attempted to.

I'm available everyday, except Fridays and Sundays at the number provided. If I'm in a lesson at the time, I'll be sure to return your message! Just remind me you met me on YT!
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The PetSmart's where you live must really suck then. The trainer at the one near us is awesome. I've never been to her, but talk have talked with her several times. She's been training for a loooong time and has even taken some dogs to title in agility. A friend with a pretty aggressive Pit worked with her and had amazing results.
You must have had a bad experience there or something?

Your puppy is ONLY FOUR MONTHS OLD !! You have to remember - she is a baby still - sometimes we expect them to understand our words and at that young age - it's expecting too much - My girlfriend had a beagle puppy that was biting her - older than your puppy - and the Petsmart classes she went to worked

you have a YOUNG puppy ....hopefully this is only a stage ...but I don't think making her yelp in pain is ever going to help ....it may make her more protective of the little things she 'finds'.....I don't want to sound mean or anything - but you used words like DRAGGED her to the box and I have to think your frustration is showing and she may be getting scared of you - which would make her growl or bite....puppies need postitive training - not getting yelled at or dragged around....

I only mean this to HELP - I'm not trying to sound like a jerk -

i was to late to add these to my last post - go read these links - this is a puppy the same age as yours and it has HELPFUL information on it - http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...ghlight=biting


and these too - http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...ghlight=biting
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...ghlight=biting

What i mean by having to drag her is that she will come out of the box and I have to get her back into it by usually pulling on the leash and directing her back into it. I have to this quite often with her as she pulls on the lease to get out of the box. So, the "dragging" is actually pulling of the lease for redirection.

Sorry if I made it sound so harse but it wasnt intended to sound like that.

Is.

Gotcha !! :) When I read your post I felt the frustration and I think our dogs feel it too when we get that way - I just wanted to emphasise that you do have a young puppy - I remember mine at that age - the teeth HURT... but try to relax and enjoy her - they grow up fast.

the other thing people have said about the training is just use consistency - like if you feed her - put her right on her 'place' to go - you just have to keep doing the same things and praise them ALOT - they get it eventually...

IF you want to take something away from her and you think she'll bite - try to read the links I posted earlier - some of the same problems were talked about there -

one more thing - you aren't leaving her leash on while she's in the crate right ?? they can strangle on anything hanging or around their necks -

I was considering to take her to a petsmart that is nearby. I go there quite often and have talked to other dog owners and they have talked very highly about one particular trainer there.

I didnt think it could hurt to try as any help is better than none and there fee is pretty reasonable as well.

How much do you charge for your trainer and or phone consultations?

Is.

puppy bit or scratch my baby and made him bleed
 

Well now the situation has gotten a bit worse and I am really sad about what happened this time...

I went to the store last night and left sox (puppy) and my 1 1/2 yr old son with my husband. I came home to hear my husband say that I almost didnt have a puppy tonight. I was like what the heck happened now? He said that sox had been running around like a mad girl around the living room while lucas my baby was in the center sitting down. Sox came up to lucas and lunged at him and either scratched him or bit him and knocked him onto his back and then continued to run around the living room. When my husband asked lucas if he was ok lucas rolled over onto his side and his eye was bleeding like crazy. I asked my husband what did he do the dog and he said he just told her no and took her to her crate while he took care of lucas.

When i looked at lucas' eye it looks as if she grazed him with either her nails or teeth because it looks like a long scratch going across his eye lid where the fold is. He looks ok but now is afraid of the dog.

I am going to try to get the two the puppy and lucas together in a little while and make sure that lucas isnt afraid of her now since he stayed on his dad's lap the whole time I was gone and didnt want to be on the floor or walk around last night.

I honestly think that sox was just playing and just got to rough with lucas. Hopefully it doesnt happen again esp on my husbands watch or I will come home to not having a puppy again.

Is.

I have been quite frustrated with her as she does good for a few days then starts to act up but I have been trying to keep my composure as much as possible. I am working with her everyday and I also have a baby who is 1 1/2 yrs old and I am home all day with both. Then my older kids ages 7 and 12 come home late afternoon so its been rough on me but I am managing. Im trying really hard to keep working with her.

I feel that I am doing everything pretty consistantly and im confident that one day she will surprise me and it will all be worth all the trouble.

I will definately keep reading about training and try to keep positive as much as possible.

No I dont leave the leash on her at all when im not using it for walking her around in the house etc.

Is.

I'd say that was more than just rough play, when considering the previous incidents.

I think any obedience training is better than none at all. It seems like she needs to know who is in charge, and it isn't her.

Think of how a mother dog would handle the situation. Pinching her on the back of the neck was probably good if it was done instantly.

Time outs for biting are useless, by the time you get them to where you are putting them for time out, they will have forgotten what they did. The reaction has to be quick.

I believe I would actually snap at her like her mother would do.

Visit Cesar Milans website
http://www.dogchannel.com/experts/ce...aspx?WT.srch=1
JMO

When chewy first came home, after dinner every night he would run around the living room like a WILD MAN! He would just go nuts running and we thought it was cute... then he started running and would run up nip and contune running!!!! It wasn't funny any more. I started putting the leash on him and making him sit with me and he calmed right down. It seemed like he couldn't calm himself down at night like that and when I made him sit with me that was the end of the CRAZY behavoir... (I would walk him before he got nuts to help hm calm down but it didn't seem to help!
Maybe your puppy was just on a running jag and too exited to calm hmself when he hurt the baby... Hope this helps!

"The PetSmart's where you live must really suck then. The trainer at the one near us is awesome. I've never been to her, but talk have talked with her several times. She's been training for a loooong time and has even taken some dogs to title in agility. A friend with a pretty aggressive Pit worked with her and had amazing results.
You must have had a bad experience there or something?"
No, I'm just a seasoned trainer and I know what the policies are for PetSmart's trainers and I know for a fact that while each have a different background before working for PetSmart they are limited to a large extent on just how much of their past is allowed to influence their practices while teaching at PetSmart. It's a corporate policy, not theirs. Now it is possible that the store manager of the PetSmart that you're talking about having good experience w/ this trainer at is just being lax, possible. But the general concensis is, and they should be honest and tell you this, is that they DO NOT have the experience to work w/ certain behavior disorders appropriately. A LOT of their techniques are about avoidance and never really teaching the dogs to stop the habit all together under any circumstance. But I'm glad you like this trainer! Many people who have come to me AFTER going to PetSmart or PetCo for their training liked their trainer as an individual and as a trainer too, just not for the results they were looking for.

I think it's great that PetSmart exists w/ the training program they have. Their prices are reasonable and like I said, not everyone wants to use just a leash and collar nowadays to train their dogs. It's GREAT to have diversity.

As far as what "I" charge for a phone consultation? NOTHING! Call me ANYTIME!!! Here's the number again: 847-223-2822, Oh, and Evaluations are free too (where you actually bring the dog in and meet me and I show you a couple of things and we discuss what options are probably best for your situation)
Private lessons (1 hour) are $50 and classes are $150 for an 8 week course and there's boarding and training as well, but that depends on the size of the dog in order to determine the boarding rate.

PENNY Shake!
 

This is just a suggestion, but it worked for me ... whenever Monday barked (usually when people were coming in or were leaving) ... I put about 5-10 pennies in an empty soda can (sealed the top with tape) and shook it ONCE (downward movement) -- the noise got her attention -- and then I'd say NO BARKING! and then go "shhhh shhh ... now all I have to do is say "Shhh Shhh" and the barking stops ...

try that .... hope it helps ...

about the nipping, I have no experience with that, but I sure wouldn't leave the baby on the floor with Sox running about! (Maybe the "penny shake" would help with that as well????) It does kinda stop them in their tracks.
Good Luck...
Debbie

My yorkie is a year old and is very sweet most of the time. He will all of a sudden become agressive if he thinks someone is getting food and he is not. Even the smell of me cooking will start him on his agression. He has attacked my new Cockapoo on several occasions and usually for no reason. I have had him since he was 8 weeks old and he has never been agressive with people just other dogs. And not all the time. I would like to know what triggers him, so I could be alert to those things? Sometimes it can be over a toy, but most of the time it is a chewie of some kind. I have thrown them all away and don't give them to either dog.
I sympathize with you, I know how frustrating it can be. Don't leave your baby and dog unattended ever. I don't leave my dogs together without supervision. Good luck, I will watch for updates.