Originally Posted by sdgdh1

Hey, it's no problem. I'm not offended. I'm also not trying to cause drama. I just think negative reinforcement is as important as positive reinforcement. Positive reinforcement is used to teach a dog to do something that you like. Negative reinforcement is used to teach a dog NOT to do something that you don't like. I just think giving a dog a treat for licking you will not solve the issue with him biting you. Whether you use a pop in the rear, a stern "No," or lemon juice, it's negative reinforcement and if the dog registers it as negative, it will work. If your dog likes lemonade, lemons won't work. Each dog is different.

The fact is, dogs "outgrow" biting and nipping because they've come to understand the negative consequences when they do that. Giving them a hug when they don't bite doesn't help at all. When you want to teach them to sit, you reward them for sitting. When you want to teach them not to jump on you, you discipline them for jumping on you.

I understand that when people hear someone say to discipline a dog, they immediately assume an abusive environment. I'm a huge fan of my dog. I think people with unruly dogs tend to be less fond of their's. I think that's why some people come on here with older dogs or puppies and want to get rid of them. They can't figure out why he is still doing the things that they don't want him to do. To me, I enjoy a dog more when he's well behaved, so I try to use what works or has worked in the past. I use positive to teach to do something and negative to teach not to do something.

As far as fear, I think a dog can be just as frightened by loud shouting all of the time as a quick pop for biting. I guess it's up to the dog and his owner, though.

Originally Posted by Gracie2006

I would not trust that every puppy will grow out of it. My puppy school teacher taught me this and it seems to be working, but you have to be very consistent.

When puppy bites, you immediately stand up and turn your back to him while you say no bite. The puppy will feel banished from you, his pack. Wait 30 seconds, then return and give him something appropriate to bite. If he bites a second time, repeat this. If he bites a third time, this is a felony offence. He goes into his ex-pen, a gated off small room, etc. so you both get a time out. This is not meant to be punishment for the puppy, but to help re-direct his thoughts to something other than biting. After 15 minutes or so, you can end the time out. My teacher said it was best to keep the puppy tethered when doing this so he can't run off and find something fun to do. I can't tether my Gracie. Usually when her biting happens, we are on the sofa playing. She won't jump down off the sofa so she gets her 30 sec. there. I just pick up all toys and chews when I stand up and turn my back.

Originally Posted by Potter

Do all puppy nip? Siu Pao is 14.5 weeks now and he seriously nips. I have lots of chew toys for him and bully stick and ice cube but he loves hands, my hands and any other people's hands and pants too.

I have tried holding his neck and say no; I have tried the OUCH and I have tried the shake can. None of it really works.

The thing that bothers me most is when I pet him (besides sleeping time), he nips at me. When I try to groom him, he nips at me. He liked hugs and cuddles when I first got him but now he is nipping and doesn't even want me to hold him. Or..when I don't give him something that he wants like the roll of toilet paper, boy he nips me hard! I never ever hit him or abuse him. My husband and I treat him really really well. When we first got him though, whenever we try to pet him, he kind of duck his head like we are going to hit him but he was only 12 weeks old then! He doesn't do it everytime but there are quite a few times I saw him doing it and he doesn't really warm up to my husband. Do you think his breeder treated him badly or his kids because I knew they have like 4 children in the house?

Any YT members with the same experiences? Do they eventually stop? My training is very very consistent..but I don't know what is wrong here. I really hope he is not genetically aggressive. He will grow out of it I suppose? Help please.

Originally Posted by vanessa19

Honestly my girl is 10 months old and she DID grow out of biting, me nor my boyfriend have ever spanked nor used a shock collar on her and she has turned out great listens to basically anything we tell her...when she was biting we had and still do about 20 toys in the house she still plays and BITES thos but not anything shes not supposed to. I would NEVER hit a 5lb dog let alone use a shock collar on them thats awful!:thumbdown :eek:

Originally Posted by SweetCuteness

sdgdh1,
I don't know if you're just posting to try and create drama within the forum, or if you're just ill-educated on the training of dogs and children. Either way, if you're using physical force to try and create fear in your children and animals, you shouldn't be allowed to have either. I found the following in another post you made:



In response to the above: I've had dogs my entire life and have never used physical force NOR an electric shock collar on any of them. ALL of them grew out of the puppy biting stage and NONE of them bit people, not even once, after they grew out of it. Also, if you're causing them pain, they're going to be afraid of you and you're going to redirect their aggression.

I don't mean to be rude by anything I've said, I'm just quite honestly apaulled by what I've read that you've written. :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown

Originally Posted by sdgdh1

No , he will NOT grow out of it .

Do what works with kids. Spank.

Originally Posted by Pautau422

I understand exactly what you are going thru because my Tyler is the same way, the only time he does not bite me is when we are in the car and I am holding him, but besides that he is forever chewing on my hands and fingers. He will bite my hubby but he just tells him to stop and he does, well at least for a few, but no luck when it comes to my hands. Now, this action is only with us and no one else.
He lets anyone pet him, hug, cuddle and not one single moment does he bite. He is good that way. I can not wait for it to be over.
Good Luck

Originally Posted by red98vett

as far as offering advise That's the WORST THING I've seen posted in a while - where do you get off jumping in and saying that ? I really feel sorry for your pets AND your kids if you think hitting solves all problems.

Most ALL puppies DO GROW OUT OF IT ....but even if one doesn't, there are way better ways to train a dog than to HIT it.

Man - if YOU would hit a puppy (or any pet for that matter) - then YOU need The TRAINING ....and a serious attitude adjustment.

Originally Posted by Stormy

Oh and I beg to differ with you and again insist he will grow out of it. Puppies chew everything, including human hands because they suffer from teething pain. I suggest anyone spanking a Yorkie or a human baby get some serious help. Violence begets VIOLENCE !!! :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown