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Reese 04-02-2005 07:01 PM

Thanks for the tip. I actually ended up buying the cover for the pen. It is on now and she has been fine. I think that problem is solved. No to get to the house training!

lily's mom 04-08-2005 06:11 AM

May be she is not playing enough during the day. I make sure my new yorkie (10 weeks)
plays her little butt off during the day. She is exhausted at bed time and sleeps the entire night. Last night I put her on her potty pad before bed and she was so tired she just laid down and curled up. I had to carry the little angel to bed. Try letting her run off her energy and I bet she will sleep. I do have two little girls and they play hard with her. Seems to work.
lily's mom

Reese 04-08-2005 07:26 AM

Actually, ever since this post my mother has been taking her outside during the day while I am at work and she has been sleeping through the night. This AM she actually woke up at 5:50 and cried a bit but I did not let her out of her crate until 6:50. She has gotten much better and I fell much better too! :) Thanks for your advice.

Reese 04-28-2005 08:15 AM

Back to her old ways.
Well, since this original post Reese had gotten much better sleeping through the night once we started ignoring her. But last week she started waking up in the middle of the night, 3AM this morning, and was crying, shaking the door on her crate and then when we didn't let her out she started barking. The night before we let her do it for an hour and a half in the middle of the night. Needless to say we got a horrible nights sleep. I am really confused about why she keeps waking up? We played with her pretty hard last night and she ran like crazy around our apartment, so I thought she would be tired, but I guess that only lasted a couple of hours.

I have spoken to my breeder who told me to move her to the living room into her pen and when she starts to cry or bark go out and slap the wall and say NO in a really loud deep voice. I am going to try this but I also found the product at the link below.
Has any one every tried this? Will it hurt her? I am just getting the end of my rope with her. I need sleep!


http://www.petedge.com/shopping/prod...ProductID=4137

Rem&Silkmom 04-28-2005 08:59 AM

well I have a 16month old yorkie that I just got about 2months ago and I have not been able to sleep past 5am...lately she has been getting up at 4am. I have moved her from my room because she was waking me up at 3am moving around now she is in the sunroom and I can still hear her at 4am...I am moving her to the garage tonight I need a full 8hrs sleep before I start to passout at work. :(

bchgirl 04-28-2005 10:08 AM

I went through the sleepless nights last week, by day 4 I was a zombie.....so I caved. Trace now sleeps in our bed...sigh. And I tried all the suggestions already given including ignoring him, but this guy can howl, bark, whimper for HOURS, I just couldn't take it any more. Guess he thinks, "hmmm, one week and I got her trained ;)

Reese 04-28-2005 10:13 AM

The thing is that I would not mind her coming into our bed but she does not want to sleep. She wants to play with us. She runs around the bed and licks our faces until I just have to put her back on the floor and then she starts barking for me to pick her back up. I just can't win! Nothing I do seems to work. I have decided that I need to buy a book on becoming the alpha dog in the house b/c she definitely thinks she rules the house now.

Rem&Silkmom 04-28-2005 10:17 AM

here is my question everything I have read says to ignore them...I can't seem to ignore her when she is in my room...is it okay to move her to a far far away from my bedroom space and ignore her?

JRiley781 04-28-2005 10:25 AM

I have a three month old yorkie and she is great when it comes to bedtime. I do not allow her to sleep or nap past 8:30 pm and I play with her until I go to bed. I also hold off on bones and treats until bedtime. She gets a greenie or a small rawhide to go to bed with. But I also let her sleep in my bed.

I wanted some advice on training her. She is not a problem when it comes to sleeping but she barks when our other dogs have toys (even if she has one too), she is not potty trained, and she's an ankle biter.

I have stepped it up on my end of the training process but she is not learning as quickly as I hoped. Should I wait a fe wmore weeks or get enrolled in training classes.

bchgirl 04-28-2005 10:29 AM

I fortunately have a cuddle bug and he goes to sleep instead of playing in the bed. I will admit since my husband is a very early riser for work, that sleeping in is becoming a thing of the past. Plus I know his tiny blatter must be about to burst so I'm up at 5:30am and I'm terribly afraid Trace will have an accident my bed. If that happens, hubby will insist he go back to the crate. My breeder uses crates, and Trace didn't mind (except in the middle of the night), but he's decided since I was trained so easily on the sleeping arrangements, perhaps he should push it so he never has to get in his crate. This is a new behavior. He comes to work with me, has to ride in his crate in the car, and if I had the windows down, other drivers would think I was killing him.

I thought of another suggestion, buy some ear plugs......get enough for the entire apartment complex.....LOL.

bchgirl 04-28-2005 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rem&Silkmom
here is my question everything I have read says to ignore them...I can't seem to ignore her when she is in my room...is it okay to move her to a far far away from my bedroom space and ignore her?

I think that's fine, however, Trace was in the furtherest room from our bedrooms and I could still hear him. I was, like you, trying everything....in the crate in our room so he would know he wasn't alone, didn't work, in a distant room so we couldn't hear him. Good thing he's so dang cute. And Thank God, there will be NO human babies in our future, cause I've come to realize I just couldn't do it.....
:D :D

Rem&Silkmom 04-28-2005 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bchgirl
I think that's fine, however, Trace was in the furtherest room from our bedrooms and I could still hear him. I was, like you, trying everything....in the crate in our room so he would know he wasn't alone, didn't work, in a distant room so we couldn't hear him. Good thing he's so dang cute. And Thank God, there will be NO human babies in our future, cause I've come to realize I just couldn't do it.....
:D :D

It is sad because I wake up sometimes at 3 or 4 am and just lay there to hear if she is gonna start and sure enough she starts. the one time I slept till 6am must have been because I was so tired that I just did not hear her.

Sydney'sMom 04-28-2005 11:08 AM

Don't get too discouraged. I have small apartment too...so I understand your concerns about the noise.

I do have a few suggestions though. Try getting a Kennel Cab style crate. The smallest size is perfect for the size of your dog and the sides are opaque so they don't have as much distraction from the room around them. Also put her crate in the room farthest from your bedroom, and one that is shaded so that she doesn't see street lights all night She might be fussing because she hears you moving and wants to be with you. Once you find a good place for her, don't change it. We moved Syd into the kitchen once because we were treating the carpet in her room for fleas and she threw a fit all night.

Do you crate her when you are out of the house? Yorkie's are very smart...she will learn that the crate is where she goes when Mom can't be with her. I have also heard that you should crate the babies a few times a day even when you are home. It gets them used to being seperated from you.

And lastly...even though it will be a pain...just let her cry for a night. Once she realizes that crying doesn't get her anywhere she will stop. I know that you are worried about disrupting your neighbors...but what is worse? One or two nights of crying or months and months of it?

Don't worry! She will settle in. You have only had her for few weeks. That was just about the point at which Sydney started being a holy terror. She's just a little baby, and once she realizes that nighttime is for sleeping and not playing...you'll be fine.

Good luck!

PS. I would NOT let her in bed with you yet. With the behavior she has shown so far...you will never sleep again. Once you let them in bed...there is no un-doing it...they think they belong there. I would wait until she is much older. She will be better behaved then and she will be able to make it all night without going potty too. That way you won't have to worry about messes in your bed. Plus you would just be rewarding her bad behavior.

klogan 04-28-2005 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Reese
Last night was better, she went in her crate around 10PM and at 12:30 she woke up wining and crying, I thought she might have to go to the bathroom b/c she didn't before she fell asleep so I let her out, BIG MISTAKE. The second I let her out she was running around my bed room and didn't need to go to the bathroom. So after a few minutes I put her back in the crate. Of course she was crying and started getting really loud. I was tempted to move her to a different room but we decide to leave her in there and just try to ignore her. She cried for about 10 minutes then stopped and I think she may have fallen back to sleep.
Then later on during the night she woke up crying and we just ignored her again, she stopped after a few minutes. By 5:50AM she was awake again and crying to get out of her crate. At this point I thought since it was so close to 6:00 that I might as well just let her out b/c she didn't seem like she was going to stop this time. I am hoping that by next week she will be able to stay in the crate until 6:30 when I have to get up. I do feel much better today than I did yesterday about the whole process.

Thank you all for your posts and words of encouragement.

KLogan, I think that ignoring him would be the best thing. I noticed last night that if I ignored her she would eventually stop but when I would tell her to be "quiet and lay down", she would just get louder. I would definitely give that a try. It might be worth a shot. I too was considering taking her crate out of our bedroom but in our apartment it almost would not matter where is was, b/c we could still hear her. And I would probably just be getting out of bed to check on her, and then I would never be falling back to sleep. Has he been like this since you got him? Does he wake up throughout the night as well? How long has he been at your house?

Reese - things got really bad with Stomper. He of course cried the first few weeks we got him, then at about 10 weeks, he would only cry a few times and we would say "No" or "Be quiet" and he would go back to sleep. Then all the sudden about at 17 weeks, he started crying the entire night!!! I was going nuts, very hard to handle when you have to work and you don't get sleep. I actually called my vet and a dog behaviorist. They both said you have to ignore them - even negative attention is good to them when confined to a crate. They suggested I move him to another room. He was still very loud and I was not sleeping even though I was ignoring him. My last hope was to put him in the garage so I could get some sleep. I felt terrible doing this. I mean terrible. I did it for 2 nights. It was now Friday. I told Stomper it was bed time and to go in his crate. That was the first time, he was scared to go in! He fought not to go in and cried/barked when I put him in - probably scared of going in the garage again. I told my husband, why don't we just put his bed down with a blanket and give him a kong with food it in the living room (away from us). We turned on the radio, put up a baby gate and turned on a light for him. Guess what? Not one bark. It will be a week as of tomorrow that he has been doing fine. Stomper is now 20 weeks old (5 months). I still get up all hours of the night because my body is so confussed and is used to getting up because of Stomper! I haven't sleeped very well, but at least he is not crying... Only time can tell. I'm still worried it will start again.

Personally, I don't think it is a problem getting that bark collar. My uncle used it on a smaller dog that barked and it worked just great. You are in a unique situation being in an apartment. Do what you have to do. You need to sleep. You will go crazy. I know how you feel!!!

Please keep me updated.

Rem&Silkmom 04-28-2005 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klogan
Reese - things got really bad with Stomper. He of course cried the first few weeks we got him, then at about 10 weeks, he would only cry a few times and we would say "No" or "Be quiet" and he would go back to sleep. Then all the sudden about at 17 weeks, he started crying the entire night!!! I was going nuts, very hard to handle when you have to work and you don't get sleep. I actually called my vet and a dog behaviorist. They both said you have to ignore them - even negative attention is good to them when confined to a crate. They suggested I move him to another room. He was still very loud and I was not sleeping even though I was ignoring him. My last hope was to put him in the garage so I could get some sleep. I felt terrible doing this. I mean terrible. I did it for 2 nights. It was now Friday. I told Stomper it was bed time and to go in his crate. That was the first time, he was scared to go in! He fought not to go in and cried/barked when I put him in - probably scared of going in the garage again. I told my husband, why don't we just put his bed down with a blanket and give him a kong with food it in the living room (away from us). We turned on the radio, put up a baby gate and turned on a light for him. Guess what? Not one bark. It will be a week as of tomorrow that he has been doing fine. Stomper is now 20 weeks old (5 months). I still get up all hours of the night because my body is so confussed and is used to getting up because of Stomper! I haven't sleeped very well, but at least he is not crying... Only time can tell. I'm still worried it will start again.

Personally, I don't think it is a problem getting that bark collar. My uncle used it on a smaller dog that barked and it worked just great. You are in a unique situation being in an apartment. Do what you have to do. You need to sleep. You will go crazy. I know how you feel!!!

Please keep me updated.

wow that is great...does he goes to the bathroom or hold it? I have thought about confining Silk to a room. I let her sleep with my daughter in her room and every morning I would wake up to poo and pee on the carpet.


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