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I think without knowing exactly what the groomer said and how he said it, it is tough to debate here. I absolutely love my groomer, he is the most gentle man I have ever met. I have brought each of my dogs to him before they were fully trained and while no biting, I am sure they were not easy. I think groomers can probably have a gentle discussion and give referrals as a way of saying it nicely? Or at least I am going to hope so :) I understand everything you are saying, but there is always a choice to be empathetic and offer resources. |
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I don't think a dog should be as a puppy completely trained. that's what I Meant. Chewie has a nasty phobia about her little areas, and I had to find a good groomer that would work with her, and not just tell me whatever and shave her any way. Yes, that happened. Four times. I found a groomer that works with puppies that either have phobias, like my Chewie who got a bad groomer at a "well regarded grooming place" or puppies who bite. she insists on a muzzle on any puppies that might bite, and can work with them. I don't know about dogs. This guy has a puppy. I seriously doubt having a puppy of my own that his puppy bites hard enough or seriously enough that will cause pain and to be asked not to come back. I'm sure you're a fantastic groomer. I like you as a person, and you seem to know what you're saying. However, I am telling you, I've met people who have lied to my face while smiling and have now made my puppy scream after grooming and tuck her poor butt down UNTIL Sandy. Any groomer that just gives up like that seems to be causing more of an issue. |
I get alot of naughty/ or scared dogs referred to me. But i do wish more people started early with their puppies. The breeder should play a large part in getting their puppies very used to handling and brushing and toe nail clippings. And the sounds of clippers and blow dryers. I dont think alot of people put enough thought into what kind of work will go into a long haired breed. And no puppy will be completly trained the first time it goes to a groomer but it could be very well started and at least used to clippers, dryers and baths. And im not afraid of being bit, but the hardest puppies/dogs are the little tiny less than 5lb ones who are so tiny and squirmy and jumpy that its hard to groom without hurting them. |
Thanks JennaPenny for your lovely compliment! ;) On your comments about the groomer refusing service to certain dogs... I just want to say that even though I groom my own dogs, I am always worried of the small chance I may hurt them. They are so small and can be squirmy. But I know my dogs and most of the time, I know their limits and my limits. To the OP: If a groomer is not comfortable with a certain dog, I think it's only fair they refuse the service. Afterall, they don't know other peoples' dog well enough to 'take a chance' and it's much better to be safe than sorry (for themselves and for the dog). Hopefully you received a polite decline, but even if it wasn't, don't take too much offense into it and just be respectful of their decision. I would imagine each groomer is different with their methods/techniques and has different levels of skills, just like any other occupation. I agree with others that their job is to groom dogs, not train them. If I took my dog to a groomer, I would much rather they be honest and reject my dog, than to try even though they weren't comfortable and then possibly hurt my dog. Just continue with home-training and move on to find a new groomer. Be honest about your situation and asked them if they are comfortable with dogs with similar characteristics/issues as your dog. You could even ask them if they have tips on how you can help your dog have a better experience at the groomers. :) I also agree with Farleys that most dog owners don't start off with puppies young enough to get them used to blow dryers, nail clippers, combing etc. It's not fair to rely completely on groomers to 'deal with it'. |
I hope this get sorted for you. Currently going through the same thing with my dog, Chewie too. Made a post about it also But can I just say, do not rely on the "YELP", my dog just ignores it and keeps biting. |
WOW! thanks for all the support and ideas guys! lol didnt expect to have this many replies! for starters, i wasnt trying to bash the groomer at all... i actually dont blame her... she has her own little shop and shes the only one there so i know how much of a handful he must be while hes up on that table... secondly, i am not giving up yet... i will give him until at least a year before i decide to try to re-home him if we think we have to. Third, on a typical day, i'll wake up at 530 and bring him for a half hour walk, then we'll come home and he'll go back into his X pen while we get ready.. we will let him out to roam around our apartment (also difficult) until we have to go to work. He does have to stay in the pen all day more for his safety than anything... we get home around 5:00 where one of us brings him to the beach or the park for about an hour walk... then we come home and he hangs out with us until about 9:00. if he gets really nippy or barky we do give him little 5 minute "time outs" where we'll put him back in the pen. I just got a call from our vet and he is just waking up from his neutering surgery! they also had to remove one baby tooth that wouldnt fall out by itself. also FYI, he is a HUGE yorkie... he weighed in this morning at 18.5lbs! so he's probably a little bit more difficult to handle than some of the dogs you guys have experience with. His biting problem is something we're trying hard to work on... we dont hit him... and we do try to ignore him but its very tough. i just want to make one thing clear.. he is NOT an aggressive dog... his biting is play biting and we know this... i doubt he was aggressive with the groomer either (but again i wasnt trying to make this whole post about the groomer, it was just like the straw that broke my spirit lol). |
I was just going to add that puppies use their teeth and mouths as its really how they explore. It's up to us to teach them what's okay. Since he's not being malicious or mean, he just needs to learn that using teeth on you is not allowed. Try using a closed hand when playing with him so your fingers aren't exposed. The minute he bites down on your fingers, say "no bite" and remove your fingers. He has to do it in order for him to learn not to. Get on the floor and play with him, then gently touch his body all over, his feet, paws, pads, ears so he gets comfortable with being touched everywhere. Many people say training can be a pain in the neck, and in some cases it can, but truthfully I enjoy most every part of it. Yorkies are very intelligent and I think they enjoy learning. It is staggering how much our little girl knows (directions, phrases, words, commands etc.) We took the positive reinforcement route. We definitely tell her NO, but we're calm and she definitely doesn't like to disappoint us. We have never once hit or swatted her. She's a dog and they have no idea what that means except that you're using your hands to hit them. Same with time outs for punishment. They don't have the reasoning to put 2 + 2 together. We make sure she knows we're the leaders but we're very kind. Now, don't get me wrong, we still have our struggles in certain areas (barking at dogs going by) etc. We took the Cesar Millan Dog Psychology route. Watched him every morning together before we even got Mia. It doesn't replace basic training, but it does open your eyes to a different way of looking at things. As others have said, please don't give up. He's still a baby, he doesn't have Mom to learn from, so what is he supposed to do? He has to rely on you to help him know right from wrong. He will continue to grow up and he will love you unconditionally. ❤️ |
Ava our shiz tzu was black balled when she bit a groomer... All groomer in town knew she was a biter. She finally got in their good graces at about 3 when she wasn't so scared about going there. But I bring her in when they open up and not a lot of other dogs there and told them no crates. I'll pick her up when done. That all helped her anxiety about going there and she stopped biting them. We learned a trick with the girls when they were little. Carry with u a small jar with pennies. When they bite or other bad behavior like chew your leather purse or Nike sandals (yes Max I'm talking about you) 😀 Shake the penny jar...then give them a chew toy that's appropriate. The penny noise distracts them. |
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