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Biscuit's first day of Petsmart training well guys, we had our first lesson at petsmart today.He did well until it was time for social play at the end.We are in a small group and the other dogs are two HUGE puppies and two medium sized dogs.He is tiny in comparison.One of the big dogs was so excited to meet our Bisco (and who would't be?) he jumped on him and this freaked Biscuit out of course.He has played with big dogs well in the past, so I was a little surprised to see him growling at the other puppies. He was being a little timid anyway because the store was crowded and he seems to be going through a four month "i'm scared of everything" stage. But after the big dog incident it was all over!He was aggressive towards all the dogs after that and would try to bite any dog that said hi.I met a fellow yokie owner outside the store and she said her yorkie has always been aggressive towards bigger dogs.Is this true for you guys? I don't want my Biscuit to be mean when doggies want to play. How can I help him get over this?The trainer is helping but I'm just fishing for others' experiences. Thanks in advance for any help! |
I am sorry to hear about this. In my experience, Thor is unpredictable about which dogs he is good or not with. He is good with most bigger dogs, but does bark agressively at them at first. It's wierd. I think it is all about socialiazing them when they are young and since your dog is still young you have time to do this. Don't worry, just keep hard at his socializing!!! Good luck! Hannah |
:confused: I have a Cairn Terrier, he weighs around 16lbs. Gracie (my yorkie, 2.2lbs) will NOT leave him alone. She bites on his tail, chews on his face, his ankles, his hair. I'm at a loss! Max will put up with it for quite some time, but when he's had enough, he'll put her down. I don't think he's hurting her, b/c she'll go right back to it. (The stern NO doesn't seem to work well) I don't want Gracie hurt, but I'm beginning to think she'll have to have the "P" knocked out of her before she gets it through her stubborn head!lol |
Well some of these guys are and some are not afraid of big dogs. My girl is chose over who gets in her face and I do Muzzle her on first meeting. Some of her best Friends are pyres, flat coated retrievers and Black Russian terriers. Which is as big as you can get in the dog world. On the other hand she tends to dislike pits,labs and anything white and tiny with eat them passion. My girl is in rehab and we work on getting close to other dogs without her going off. We can get with in 31 steps of a strange dog and she stays calm. Trick is to desensitize and not let them practice bad manner. There are a ton of good books and I would suggest you to look for a private trainer to help you. But if they advise get tough run not walk the other way. Getting tough makes it worse. joy |
Like you we just also went through our first obedience class. Teddy has had 2 bad instances with bigger dogs so we felt he needed a little confidence boost and there for enrolled him in the class to help resocialize him. Well, not so good on this end either because we no more than walked through the door and a huge white dog pounced at him and about sent him into shock. Needless to say our entire class he was way too worried about what the big white dog was doing to concentrate. He shook and shivered and I felt so bad for him. The trainers were good with us though and they promised to come up with a plan to help us through this situation so I am hoping that this week goes a little better for us. |
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Obedience classes for us have been a real roller-coaster. One week he'll do horribly, and the next he'll do great. Eddie didn't start until 11 months, so socialization has been a real issue. But I can honestly say he's improved with every class, so keep it up and good luck. |
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Going to puppy classes is the right thing to do, however this may not be the best puppy class for Biscuit (or Teddy's for him either). You may need a class where the dogs are kept under better control and aren't allowed to pounce on each other like that. I'm glad the trainer is going to come up with a plan, but perhaps a good trainer wouldn't have let it happen in the first place... |
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Just to let you know...I have probably the best trainer that money can buy where I live. What happened was when we walked through the door not in the presence of the trainer and when this dog misbehaved in the class room setting the trainers were there immediately. I also heard them talk to the owner about getting a gentle lead so that she would have more control over the dog. The dog I am talking about is just an over rambunctious huge 6 mo old puppy with no manners. If I felt that there was a danger to the absolute love of my life believe me I would have walked immediately. I appreciate the concern as well as the advise on Teddy's behalf with the facts you were initially given. |
As long as you are confident that this won't happen again, that's all that matters. I'll be anxious to hear how Teddy (and Biscuit, too) do next week. It's possible that they'll forget all about it and be okay. Or, they may not. Let us know how it goes and how the trainer helps you work through it, okay? |
Something funny I was just reading through and saw your title. My yorkie is also named Biscuit and we start our 1st day of training at Petsmart tomorrow night. How wierd huh? I also live in Tx, Dallas.. just thought it was funny.. Thks :aimeeyork |
If the big dogs scared him that might be why hes acting like that. |
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My little Rocky growled at the other puppies and acted very scared when I took him to Petsmart for training, which is not like him at all. He was the smallest puppy there, and I think he was a little intimidated with all the noise and puppies. We have started private lessons with a trainer and practice at home, this is working out a whole lot better than the Petsmart class. |
I have a yorkie puppy(1.8lbs) and a 16lb pug/jack russell terrier mix. My yorkie, Brie, takes his toys away from him and bites on his tail. My other dog, Miller, just sits there and takes it!!! |
What age can you start classes? I'm just wondering at what age we can start puppy classes and obedience classes? We are getting our puppy at 12 weeks of age. |
Your new puppy would be old enough to start classes although you might want to give him a week or two to settle in first. Also, you need to be sure that his vaccines have had time to become fully effective before letting him socialize with other dogs. |
thanks |
Rocky was 10-1/2 weeks when he started. But we got him when is was 6 weeks old. I would agree with letting the puppy get settled into to his new home before you start training class. The pup my be a little overwelmed. |
My Bunjee went to his first obedience class at petsmart this saturday. needless to say, at 10 weeks and 1 day old, 2.8 lbs, he was the smallest and youngest of the bunch. He was curious throughout the entire session, sniffing away at all the shelving and flooring. I even skipped his morning feeding that morning so that I can get him to pay better attention in class...no such luck. So that made training more difficult. And because all the other puppies had several lbs and inches on him, he consistently backs away and hides under shelving, behind me, between my legs, etc. if i bend down, he'll want to be picked up and led away from the big pups, which i refused, but he'd try and jump on me, burrow under me, at one point, he even contemplated if he would make the jump onto my bent knee. would socialization be easier to start with pups his own size? for those who had dealt with shy and fearful pups, how did you get them to work the issue out? |
You might find that he is more comfortable next time without any effort on your part. Skipping breakfast is good, but only if it's because you're going to be motivating him/ rewarding him with treats. Otherwise, he may just spend the whole time looking for food. I know it's hard for me to concentrate when I'm hungry... If he continues to be fearful, I'd let him take his time. I'd bring lots of yummy treats and I'd reward any bravery or interest in his surroundings that he demonstrates. While you naturally want to comfort him, try not to reward fearful behavior. If he's cowering, step in between approaching dogs and him. This will reassure him that you are in control of the situation. As soon as he shows any interest, though, let him approach some of the other dogs. Ask your trainer for help. They, most likely, have seen this many times before. If all you accomplish from this series of classes is getting Bunjee more comfortable with other dogs, the classes have been a success!!! |
So glad you are on this group FirstYorkie. You obviously have a very good understanding of how a dog thinks and training, especially these little ones. I have seen a professional trainer (highly recommended) advise (and the person did it) put a shock collar and a pinch collar on a Yorkie all at the same time to stop it from barking. :eek: Obviously, we were at a rescue Yorkie event, I had no problem telling this owner that this was completely over the top and very, very harmful to her dog. She admitted she was not comfortable with it but because the trainer came highly recommended she did it. My suggestion to this owner was she needed to get some books on Yorkie's and study the breed and immediately pull off these collars. I suggested she get a trainer with one on one experience with small dogs or a behavior specialists if she really thinks her dog is out of control. But first she has to figure out if her dog is just being a Yorkie and these are normal ways of dealing with things. I am always amazed how many people get a dog and have no idea what their makeup is. Again, FirstYorkie, thank you for sharing your secrets and your knowledge. Keep it coming :thumbup: |
Yorkies, though small in size, have a lion's heart! I have to watch Gracie...when I take her to other people's houses that have dogs, she isn't so friendly. I think it's because she isn't in her normal environment and is defensive. At my house, if someone brings their dog over, she doesn't pay them no mind. |
LDM's: you are toooooo kind! I'm PM'img you... <blush> |
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For us it was just a matter of bringing him around dogs more often and being patient.Good luck! :) |
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