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diane boden 11-18-2009 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by EmmaD (Post 2882099)
I wish Cesar would come to the UK! I would love to see him sort my papillon and her barking issues out haha. He is amazing at what he does!

Well EmmaD your in luck. Ceaser despite the efforts of some peiole is comming to the UK. Hes in Birmingham March 4th, Sheffield NIA, Liverpool and I think London so far. Dont know the dates but its early next year and tickets are selling fast. Google Ceaser Milan UK dates to find out. Those groups might not like him but most the public over here love his common sence approach to dog ownership and loke any democracy the people have the last word.
PS. If he's got any sence he'll bring bodyguards. Theres a certain group of women who are currently planning a kidnapping with intentions I cannot go into an a lovely site like this. Who says British women were fridgid.:D:D

Nancy1999 11-18-2009 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by diane boden (Post 2885348)
Well EmmaD your in luck. Ceaser despite the efforts of some peiole is comming to the UK. Hes in Birmingham March 4th, Sheffield NIA, Liverpool and I think London so far. Dont know the dates but its early next year and tickets are selling fast. Google Ceaser Milan UK dates to find out. Those groups might not like him but most the public over here love his common sence approach to dog ownership and loke any democracy the people have the last word.
PS. If he's got any sence he'll bring bodyguards. Theres a certain group of women who are currently planning a kidnapping with intentions I cannot go into an a lovely site like this. Who says British women were fridgid.:D:D

Lol, I thought you were serious, I was afraid it was a group of mad dog trainers. Ok, now I get it. :D

gakc 11-18-2009 10:50 AM

Yay baby!
 
I absolutely LOVE him. I have been watching for over two years now and I don't even have a dog yet! LOL!!! Oh and btw Daddy is just the sweetest, best dog EVER!:D

louiseg0151 11-18-2009 11:17 AM

i love Cesar Milan he's so handsome and so good with all the dogs he meets, he's just amazing.......

3FurryFaces 11-18-2009 11:48 AM

Love Cesar and his methods! Dogs living in packs understand actions, ie. a bark, growl or nip and it is how the mother dog and a pack leader teaches pups and the others from birth throughout their lives. I agree, not all education has to be the reward system. His short soft "poke" is not harmful - just gets the dogs attention. Happy to join the Cesar Love Fest! :D

Britster 11-18-2009 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2885380)
Lol, I thought you were serious, I was afraid it was a group of mad dog trainers. Ok, now I get it. :D

LOL, that's what I thought, too. :p

Britster 11-18-2009 05:05 PM

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Aw, look at Junior growing up. :D

YorkieMother 11-18-2009 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by diane boden (Post 2885348)
Well EmmaD your in luck. Ceaser despite the efforts of some peiole is comming to the UK. Hes in Birmingham March 4th, Sheffield NIA, Liverpool and I think London so far. Dont know the dates but its early next year and tickets are selling fast. Google Ceaser Milan UK dates to find out. Those groups might not like him but most the public over here love his common sence approach to dog ownership and loke any democracy the people have the last word.
PS. If he's got any sence he'll bring bodyguards. Theres a certain group of women who are currently planning a kidnapping with intentions I cannot go into an a lovely site like this. Who says British women were fridgid.:D:D

Oh dear they did not get the injuntion that they had hoped for.


JL

diane boden 11-19-2009 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2885380)
Lol, I thought you were serious, I was afraid it was a group of mad dog trainers. Ok, now I get it. :D

LOL did you think you guys were going to get to keep him all to yourselves. Dont worry about the trainers, those hot crazy woman will protect him. After they've had their wicked way with him.

chachi 11-19-2009 11:19 AM

This is a love thread find the debate thread

chachi 11-19-2009 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Britster (Post 2886003)
Aw, look at Junior growing up. :D

That is a great picture! Im assuming the woman with him is his wife. I havent seen her before

Nancy1999 11-19-2009 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by diane boden (Post 2886808)
LOL did you think you guys were going to get to keep him all to yourselves. Dont worry about the trainers, those hot crazy woman will protect him. After they've had their wicked way with him.

Lol, you want some of his exercise, discipline, and affection too! :D

manolos mom 11-19-2009 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by yorkiemother (Post 2884739)
emma

i am not thinking that the british training community nor the vet behaviorist nor the phd behaviorist in england want him there at all.

It was very clearly stated at a conference i attended that ever effort will be made to keep him out. The british dog community offer up victoria stillwell as their representative in the training field of there choice.
Very clearly stated that he need not apply to work in england he is not welcome and we north americans can keep him.

Jl

why!!!

Britster 11-19-2009 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2886855)
Lol, you want some of his exercise, discipline, and affection too! :D

LOL, Nancy! Calm and assertive energy works with women, too!

Britster 11-19-2009 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 2886838)
That is a great picture! Im assuming the woman with him is his wife. I havent seen her before

Yep, that's his wife, Illusion is her name, I think.

Britster 11-19-2009 01:10 PM

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Here's his kids,

lovespandp 11-19-2009 04:10 PM

OoooooH I love Ceaser!! So does DH and he HATES all those other trainers, he says CM is the only one that has the gift!!

Is Daddy a non working dog now? I know I saw the ep where he said he wants JR in his place bc Daddy is getting old... Jr is great but no dog can replace Daddy!! Such a great soul

Britster 11-19-2009 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lovespandp (Post 2887143)
OoooooH I love Ceaser!! So does DH and he HATES all those other trainers, he says CM is the only one that has the gift!!

Is Daddy a non working dog now? I know I saw the ep where he said he wants JR in his place bc Daddy is getting old... Jr is great but no dog can replace Daddy!! Such a great soul

Yeah, last I heard Daddy was "retiring"... he's like 16 years old!! :eek:

I agree with your DH. :)

lovespandp 11-19-2009 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Britster (Post 2887187)
Yeah, last I heard Daddy was "retiring"... he's like 16 years old!! :eek:

I agree with your DH. :)

Aw Poor Daddy, You know he just loved to be with Ceaser on his jobs!! But at least we know he is living the good ol retirement life!! :D

Britster 11-19-2009 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by lovespandp (Post 2887190)
Aw Poor Daddy, You know he just loved to be with Ceaser on his jobs!! But at least we know he is living the good ol retirement life!! :D

I know, he was Cesar's right hand man, er... dog! LOL. I never knew until recently he actually belonged to the rapper Redman but he's been with Cesar since he was a lil' pup. He's lived a good life for sure!! lol.

I so wish I could visit the new dog psychology center, it looks sooo nice. So much land!

lovespandp 11-19-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Britster (Post 2887192)
I know, he was Cesar's right hand man, er... dog! LOL. I never knew until recently he actually belonged to the rapper Redman but he's been with Cesar since he was a lil' pup. He's lived a good life for sure!! lol.

I so wish I could visit the new dog psychology center, it looks sooo nice. So much land!

Yeah I just saw that too, Odd!! Poor Ceaser, he is going to be sad without his sidekick!! I hope JR will do ok... I am sure he will knowing that JR is in Ceaser hands!!

I wish I could visit any center!! I wish he can meet Peanut haha I would LOVE to hear what he would say about him!! hahahaha

diane boden 11-20-2009 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2886855)
Lol, you want some of his exercise, discipline, and affection too! :D

Who me??? Oooooooooooh I blush at the thought.:dribble:I wouldn't mind him comming over and teaching some of the men I work with the correct way to treat a woman.

diane boden 11-20-2009 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by manolos mom (Post 2886857)
why!!!

Dont have a clue why they choose her methods over his. Probably trying to prove there far to sophisticated for common sence approach to dog ownership. Your not even supposed to tell your kids off for misbehaving over here, the little dears are just expressing their individuallity when they tare your home apart or beat up some stranger in the street. Explains why we've got gangs of youths beating people up in the street and making decent peoples lives hell. You really have to live over here to understand whats going on. Of course this is also the country where a police officer leaves his dogs to die in the car and gives people involved in dog fighting or other forms of animal cruelty a slap on the wrist.

Britster 11-24-2009 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by diane boden (Post 2887844)
Dont have a clue why they choose her methods over his. Probably trying to prove there far to sophisticated for common sence approach to dog ownership. Your not even supposed to tell your kids off for misbehaving over here, the little dears are just expressing their individuallity when they tare your home apart or beat up some stranger in the street. Explains why we've got gangs of youths beating people up in the street and making decent peoples lives hell. You really have to live over here to understand whats going on. Of course this is also the country where a police officer leaves his dogs to die in the car and gives people involved in dog fighting or other forms of animal cruelty a slap on the wrist.

This kind of reminded me of this article I saw the other day,

Dog Whisperer: Cesar Millan the new parenting guru -- South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com

It's an article that Cesar himself has nothing to do with but parents saying they even learn lessons for their kids in the show.


"Unlike modern parents," she added, "dog trainers don't think discipline equals being mean. They understand that dogs are happiest when they know their position in the hierarchy."

Hranek said that some parents he knows "do not allow the word `no' to be said around the house. How absurd is that?"

"When you're wishy-washy with dogs, they take advantage — `He didn't mean don't eat that biscuit,"' Hranek said. "Kids think the same way."

manolos mom 11-27-2009 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by chattiesmom (Post 2894703)
It is so totally inappropriate for you to continue to post your negativity towards Cesar Milan in this particular thread. Your posts are entirely off topic as noted in the op's thread -- this is a place for those of us who endorse Cesar Milan to post.

Please start your own "Bash Cesar Milan" thread if you must. But at least have enough respect for those of us who do like Cesar to not be negative in this thread.

:thumbup::thumbup: Thank you Chattiesmom!!!

Britster 11-27-2009 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by chattiesmom (Post 2894703)
It is so totally inappropriate for you to continue to post your negativity towards Cesar Milan in this particular thread. Your posts are entirely off topic as noted in the op's thread -- this is a place for those of us who endorse Cesar Milan to post.

Please start your own "Bash Cesar Milan" thread if you must. But at least have enough respect for those of us who do like Cesar to not be negative in this thread.

Oh my goodness, thank you! I've already spoken to a mod who already deleted a past post. She just can't seem to understand the concept of this thread. But oh well, it's only making her look stupid.

JeanieK 11-27-2009 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkieMother (Post 2894661)
Very simply that he is far to rough and totally unaware of dog speak.
Has been sighted for abuse of a dog with a shock collar so that it did a redirected bite on it owner out of panic.
He was put his own childern at risk and been sighted for it.
Flooding is not a good way to manage or train a fear aggressive dog and as most aggression is fear based he fails.

There is another of his shows being looked at now that may also get him sighted for being to rough.

I am aware that all to many think there are more then one way to look at thing but some times the facts are what they are and as much as some really want the world to be square it is round and science proves it. Sadly as much as some want this fellow to be a saint to the dog world sadly science proves repeatedly that he is not and that is tough for some to see that they are not able to prove using science that he has a clue.

Teaching a dog learned helplessness is not training it is failing the dog.

JL

Do you have newsd clips of him being cited for puttring his children at risk? surely a well know celeb like Cesar would make the national news if that is the case.

We all know that you don't like him. But when you post things like that you'd better be able to prove it.

Maybe a search of court records would pull up his name. Or maybe it is all just hearsay.

diane boden 11-27-2009 09:12 AM

Many people and animals in this country are suffering from the effects of people who are overly politically correct, or as we like to call them, THE FLUFFY BUNNY BRIGADE. All I know is I've used Ceasers methods to good effect. I have never hit my two dogs, but using his belief in possitive thinking and calm assertive behaviour it has changed or should I say reminded me how to treat a dog like a dog. I was too soft on my previous dogs, treating them like babies, refusing to see problems and paid the price for it. Its true acting calm and assertive changes you alot. People actually listen to you. there is no need to shout to get your point of veiw across, people treat you with respect. I know this as I used to be the meekest kind of person who let others control me and my life, now I control it, I respect others right to have a different opinion to me but I dont let them force that opinion on me, and thats all down to Cm methods. Every trainer will have some dogs react differently or unexpectidly, the measure is in how they learn from those incidents instead of walking away and saying its the owners fault for not adhering to their methods.

JeanieK 11-27-2009 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by diane boden (Post 2894858)
Many people and animals in this country are suffering from the effects of people who are overly politically correct, or as we like to call them, THE FLUFFY BUNNY BRIGADE. All I know is I've used Ceasers methods to good effect. I have never hit my two dogs, but using his belief in possitive thinking and calm assertive behaviour it has changed or should I say reminded me how to treat a dog like a dog. I was too soft on my previous dogs, treating them like babies, refusing to see problems and paid the price for it. Its true acting calm and assertive changes you alot. People actually listen to you. there is no need to shout to get your point of veiw across, people treat you with respect. I know this as I used to be the meekest kind of person who let others control me and my life, now I control it, I respect others right to have a different opinion to me but I dont let them force that opinion on me, and thats all down to Cm methods. Every trainer will have some dogs react differently or unexpectidly, the measure is in how they learn from those incidents instead of walking away and saying its the owners fault for not adhering to their methods.

:thumbup: good points. and yes more people could take the hint from Cesar when it come to dealing with children. It is our job to guide our children not coddle them.

Britster 11-27-2009 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2894901)
:thumbup: good points. and yes more people could take the hint from Cesar when it come to dealing with children. It is our job to guide our children not coddle them.

Totally agree with both of you.

I do think that in regards to kids today, parents want too much to be their child's "best friend" but that's not always in the best interest of the child. I'm not saying you can't be close to your children or be a friend to them, but be a parent first, friend second. People are so afraid of discipline nowadays and kids rule the roost.

It's what Cesar basically says about dogs... he doesn't disagree with allowing them on your bed, or being part of your family, or treating them as a child... as long as you take care of your responsibility as their owner/pack leader first, then all is good and all that "fun stuff" can come second.

Another thing, regarding the whole "dogs don't have pack leaders" thing and it's been "scientifically disproven". Not everything has to be about science, first off. And maybe the term pack leader has been over-used but in my opinion, it simply means you need to be your dogs leader... plain and simple. No science about it. I just don't see how people can argue that you shouldn't be in control of your dogs, OR children for that matter. When I see a child running through a store, pulling things off shelves, etc, it all falls back on the parent in my opinion because 90% of the time, the kids doing these things... are NOT being disciplined for them! Which just blows my mind. Same thing, if I see an out of control dog... the owners of the out of control dogs are usually the ones not doing anything about it.


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