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To be fair, not all yorkies are brilliant. I know as a breed they are smart dogs, but I really think my yorkie is on the dumb side. I say this with love. Just because one dog can play poker doesn't mean they all can. That being said, I do think it's really helpful to learn as much about training as you can, because it helps you understand your dog, and that makes for a happier family. |
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hahahaha thanks for making my night! :D |
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I think you and your husband need to sit down and talk about how you're going to go about the training, and get on the same page. It sounds like you do fine with the training on your own, by crating him when you can't watch him closely. But, if hubby's not being consistent with what you're doing, the dog is just going to get confused. Consistency is very important in any type of training, especially housebreaking. Also, you need to get one of the special cleaners at the pet store and clean all the areas he has soiled thoroughly. If he still smells it, he will just keep going there. |
Something else I thought of. Have you had him neutered recently? Sometimes dogs seem to backslide a bit after being neutered. |
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If you'd read all my posts, you would see that we HAVE tried to train Samson. We don't just let him run around, and pee whever he'd like. We don't sit on our asses, not let him out and then yell at him for peeing in the house. We have him ring a bell before he can go out, we treat him when he goes outside and we praise him when he goes outside. All we're asking for is a little sign from him that he needs to go outside. We've taken him outside, he pees, then comes back in and pees a HALF HOUR LATER in the house, without any warning. That's where we are at a loss. It's like he's not making the connection of going to the bathroom and outside. He hasn't flipped the switch yet by going "Ooooohhhh!!! THIS is where I'm supposed to go, not there" and we have no idea how to help him flip it. He's been neutered recently (about a month ago now) and the peeing in the house at night started before the surgery. We took the advice of the PetSmart guy and have really started watching him, leashing him and then crating him when we can't supervise him 100%. Also, this dog has never had free reign of the house like some of you have said. We shut off the two bedrooms and then it's just the main room, the kitchen and the bathroom where his water, bed and toys usually are. The kitchen and the main room are connected, so I could gate the hallway so he'd only be in the main room, so maybe we'll try that. We took a potty training class at PetSmart yesterday and they told us that crating him during the day while we're at work should help. He should learn to hold it for longer. They've said that, even being crated in a small bathroom, he's more active in there, hence drinking more water and then peeing on the pad or bathtub (yup, something new!!!) So, today was our first day in crating him all day. Hubby and I are both freaking out. It breaks my heart to think of him not being able to hold it then have to lay near/by/in it for the rest of the day. My hubby keeps saying that Samson will not go in his crate, so it breaks his heart to think that our little one will be uncomfortablel all day TRYING to hold it. Another idea we got from the trainers at petsmart is to hook one of those water bowls to the inside of his crate and put only ice cubes in there. That way he has some water, but not a ton. She also suggested an ice cube in his water dish in the evening so he has some, but we won't have to pick up the filled water dish so early. We'll see how it works. Since we started all this a few weeks ago, Samson's been better. He's only had a few potty accidents (all our fault) and one poop (which is so weird, he hardly ever poops inside). So it's still a ton of work, but we are working on it. I think if we got a little sign from Samson that he's maybe starting to get it, it would be a heck of a lot easier. We just have no idea if what we're doing is the right thing or if we're doing it the right way. |
Also wanted to add, for those who've mentioned it, we always clean the floor with Nature's Miralce. Never just soap and water or carpet cleaner. |
I think you are trying and that is great! How long is he crated for though? I say this, b/c most ppl that crate train, do come home for lunch and let them out to do potty. I know Yorkies have very small bladders and holding urine for 8 + hours during the day, may cause issues like a UTI. But I don't have much experience with crate training, I just choose not to do that. I kept mine contained in a spare bedroom, that I made smaller with expen pieces and cardboard boxes. I bought the doggie litter boxes and put the pee pads inside. They have 1 area upstairs for potty (in that room) and 1 area downstairs for potty. Havng to 'step inside' the pee boxes let them know the difference between peeing on the rug (no-no) and peeing in the boxes (good) It takes time, hang tight your a good Mommy ;) |
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I am gone from home for about 11.5 hours a day. My husband works less, but it varies from day to day. He could be gone from 8:30am until 1pm or anytime there after (he's a contractor, so it just all depends on his work load). I know that's a long time, and I asked the trainer at PetSmart over and over again if it's too long and they said it wasn't. They said that with him being crated, his metabolism and activitly level will go way down. Even in the small bathroom we've been crating him in, they say he has tons of room to play and jump about, hence all the peeing. I am just so nervous to hear what my hubby finds when he gets home. The trainers told us to give him at least a few weeks to get used to the crate and being in it. We still expect accidents at first, but they said he should adjust and will be fine. If after three or four weeks we find it just isn't working, the suggested a kittly litter box with a piece of sod/grass in it. That way, even though he's inside, he smells/feels the grass and will then connect that the grass outside is where he's supposed to go. The pee pad is soft, just like the carpet, so they've said he might be confused. We've gone back and forth with the pee pad in the litter box. I like that he has to step up and over to get to the pad, which might help him realize that the carpet is not the place to go, which is what you suggested. |
I first started with newspapers, then throw away pee pads, then washable pee pads, then back to throw away pee pads, then I introduced the liter box with the pee pads, and now I too bought the artificial turf (I still use the throw away pads under the turf in the box). My boy is 99.99999% trustable. He pees where he is suppose to, he may miss a tiny bit, but no marking inside what so ever. My girl is a different story, but she has a few screws loose at times, so I don't hold it against her... I know the crate training has it's bonuses, but I think he should be able to be let out and go potty every 4 or 5 hrs :confused: I don't think you are a failure, trust me, we ALL had to go thru the ups and downs of potty training....They get it and then they do regress at times, but as he matures more it will get better. I forget, did you get him some Belly Bands? |
No, I don't think we are going to try the belly bands. We discussed it, but feel they are more of a band-aid to put over the problem, not a long term solution. We feel he's right on the edge of connecting it, but will need a little more pushing to get it. I know, it seems like an awfully long time, and I know I am going to get yelled at some more for putting him in the crate for that long, but that's what we were told by the trainers. Three of them told me that their dogs are in a crate when they are home. We asked more than once if it was too long, and we were told that it might take some time for him to get used to it and he might have a tiny bit of anxiety with the change, but in the long run he should be fine. Trust me, we are totally nervous and worried that we did the wrong thing by putting him in his crate this morning. If we get home and he has had an accident, I will feel horrible. But, if he doesn't have one, I'll feel a bit better about it. |
Sounds like a plan to me....I agree that you should listen to trainers, but just keep in the back of your mind that his bladder is way smaller than a big dogs bladder and just keep an eye out for signs of UTIs - if he has difficulty peeing, or kind pee walks and sprinkles :cool: |
There is no reason at all at your dogs age he can't be in a kennel for 8 hours. So if between you and your hubbie you can get to him in about 8 hours he will be fine!! Please don't listen to people who tell you it isn't nice to kennel your dog. They are not people and will feel safer and more comfortable when alone if in a kennel. My Yorkie loves to burrow in to a blanket or squeeze under a chair to nap. If it is around bed time he just goes and sleeps in the kennel! So please don't feel guilty it really is the best thing for him!!!;) I wouldn't give him any water while in the kennel.[ Not even an ice cube ] He will sleep most of the time so doesn't need it. If it is there he will drink it than have to be uncomfortable trying to hold it and will be more likely to get a UTI or have an accident. I know this goes against what feels right. But he is a fur baby and you have to think of him as one. PS It will help to try to tire him out before you put him in the kennel too! |
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Chloe only uses her pee pad. I make sure to use a favorite treat that she only gets for doing that. Since you want to train him outside maybe find a treat he loves and only give it to him when he pees/poos outside. Make sure to take the treat out with you so he can get it right away , the second he is done , so he knows he is getting it for going potty outside. If you bring him in then give the treat , he thinks he's getting it for coming in the house and may rush to get back in ..( you wouldn't believe how long it took me to figure that one out :rolleyes:) Our other dog Syd Vicious ...aka Sydney ( not a Yorkie) goes outside. And that's what I did with her. It took about a year to get her trained to the point I can trust her and take my eyes off her while she walks around the house ( just our main floor , the stairs are gated) . She will hold it all day if she had to. I just remained as consistent as I could and didn't let the ( many) set backs get me down. I know it's hard but they will get it. I did eventually cut back then cut out the treats for peeing outside , I just gave her lots of praise and she responded just as well. But I never stopped giving her the treats for pooing outside. She is 3 now and I will continue it , because she likes it and tries hard for us , and well , it works:) |
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