tips for kennel training the tiny ones?
 

there are so many threads out there i dont even know where to start. i am starting to kennel train bam bam today. i didnt want to do it as I kinda think it is cruel and i want to be able to play with my baby. it is a last resort. i was using the playpen before but he would get so mad he would cry the whole time like he was dying, tear up the entire pen, blankets in the food and water peeing on the blanket (the blanket was a tiny tiny spot in the pen too).. tearing up the potty pads..chewing them, he was out of control. i think this is better because i can bring him around the house with me. he has not made a peep yet and has been in the kennel for an hour now sleeping. i want to know how long to keep him in there before I take him out to try and go potty... also, i got the smallest kennel available but i am afraid he will try to pee in there anyway as he is so little and has the room to avoid a pee spot... it is a very small kennel too.. any tips for this as this is my first time kennel training a dog. do I keep him in there the whole night? i will put it on my bed. i did the take to the pad every hour thing with pebbles and she was excellent so im having a hard time dealing with bam bam. he is stubborn lol..

sorry I guess i mean "crate" training.. i am looking some stuff up now... just so you know I just weighed him and he is 1 pound 8.6 ounces at 19 weeks (20 weeks on tues)... just to get an idea of how much extra room he has in the little crate

Little stinker
 

Boy is he a stinker or what ? I haven't had to resort to a kennel for a long time so i think i will let some of the others on here try to help with this.
I am sure some of the girls will have great tips for you and the little darling monster i raised for you LOL I just don't know how to tell you to get around his stubborn temper streak.

Let me know how its going and i will try to watch this thread - also will answer your PM-

Hey also hang in there with the Pebbles training - those with the nasty remarks are just jealous!!!!!! I love her and her clothes.

This is what I do when crate training.

1) When the wake up
2) After each time they play
3) After each time they eat and/or drink
4) Right before bedtime

Its about being consistent. Hope that helps!

how is he going to play or eat and drink when hes in there all the time...i know he has to come out to do these things but I am unsure of when to let him out... i have tried twice so far in almost 3 hours for him to pee and he is not going... i have waited over 15 minutes by the pad, used the spray and even tried taking him outside (not a good idea)... i am assuming they get freedom after they pee but for how long and what if he doesnt pee or if he pees in the crate?? right now he is right by the computer so i can see if he is up.. he is sleeping

i got the idea to stuff the back of the crate with soft blankets and make a wall with them so he only has access to the very front.. about 1/3 of the crate... it seems just the right size for him to lay down and move around just a little bit... it is so frustrating but i guess it is working slowly.. he has peed on the paper twice so far

I got nina when she was 2yrs old and the owner said she was weewee pad trained.Well she sometimes makes and sometimes not. i have been blocking her on the wee wee pad for 40 min and nothing,when i walk away she goes but not all the time in the right place.if you get a good response from bam on anything let me know.thanks noel

I used a car seat/carrier to crate train Joey, the crate we bought was just too big, and he would pee in it. Some people do as you suggested barricade part of the crate, and this works for them. As you said, just enough room to stand up and turn around in is best. I only did this at night, and I got up at least once during the night and put him on the pee pad that was in the bathroom. His little bed was next to mine, so I could hear him if he had to pee during the night. It had a zipper in the top, and I could stick my hand in the carrier without him getting out, and this seemed to settle him down. First thing in the morning, I took him outside, because I was duel training him, and then he ate breakfast, and went outside again. If I could watch him, I would allow him to play in the room, and watch for signs of looking for a place to pee, and either take him outside, or put on a pee pad. Otherwise his was put in a rather large playpen with bed, pee pad, toys, and food. He would pretty much use the pad in the pen; it was when he was left out of the pen that he didn't want to bother finding a pad. What I'm trying to say is that you don't have to keep them in the crate all the time, just overnight is enough for them to get the idea. The very first night, it worked and he never had an accident in the little bed. Here's a link to the type of crate I used for Joey. It's great because it still works as a great car seat now that he's bigger, and if you lay it flat, he can easily use it as a bed as well. Snoozer Pet Products 86 - Wheel Around Travel Pet Carrier in Red

for a moment i thought you meant one of those front carriers because i have one of those.. but i figure he will just pee in it while im carrying him lol..
bam bam is starting to whine while in the crate, especially at night because he knows i am not awake and "there with him" even though he is on the bed... he tests each little wire area to see if he can bite through it... he is soo determined to find a way out.. he even messes up the blanket wall i made if i dont keep a close eye on him. i am very frustrated but i know I just gotta keep with it. I dont know what to do when I have to leave the house on though he will go so nuts

oh, i forgot to mention.... god forbid i play with or hold pebbles or address pebbles in any way shape or form while he is in the crate... he goes NUTS

Lol, you can give him to me. I am a such a pushover, I held Joey the first six months, much like I did with my skin babies, they wimper, and I pick them up. It's hard to be tough, when they look so cute. What you do with two, I don't know.

youre a pushover? lets talk about me.. this is why he is just on his way to being potty trained and he is 20 weeks old!!!.. he was sick for the first month so I let him run free and free feed with a wee wee wrap on... BAD IDEA. now he wants free all the time (well "free" is full living room and kitchen access and sleep in bed with me)! he looks at me with that sad face and big eyes and I just cant take it.. it is sooo hard with him in that crate i tell you. I feel so bad. he also wants to play with pebbles and pebbles comes by the crate and gives him kisses and paws at the gate. he is a little terror though.. he gets so jealous of pebbles.. i have to pin him down and tell him no when he tries to pick a fight cus she has attention that he does not want to share. this happens at least twice a day, if not more

I just had to post on this . I am still housetraining Wiz and after reading so much about yorkies and their toilet habits I am just grateful I have him 80 % trained at this .After having 2 shepherds who were trained for outside at 10 weeks of age I find this slow going but I am determined to win the battle . As cute as he is I treat him like a big dog ..because of this , or maybe just his nature , I find him attentive and well balanced loving every dog and person he meets . Do you think that babying too much will make for a pet that will have a few issues ? I know it is hard because they are so cute , but I think having bigger dogs has helped me to train my little stinker in a good way .

Well, I think you can baby them and still train them, my lap was his crate the first 6 months, and he never peed in it! :D

Seriously, you do have a point, just because they're cute and tiny you can't baby them on some things or you can make them neurotic. For example, if there is thunder and lightning, and they act scared, it's best not to "baby" them, but just reassure them that "It's OK" and act normally, holding them and coddling them can make them feel like there is something to be afraid of. Same thing when you gave a bath, or groom them, you don't want to baby them, but talk in a pleasant matter-of-fact voice that gives them confidence. I've trained some pretty big dogs, and I believe that I've had to use much bigger body signals and voice to command their respect, or show my authority, if I were to use those same signals with Joey, I think he would run in the other direction. So in some ways you do treat them the same way, but in other ways you might want to tone down your behaviors. Just like you don't treat all children the same, you have to vary training with a dog as well. I think one personality trait evident in Yorkies, that I haven't seen in any large dog is their independent or stubborn streak, they have a mind of the own, and are very strong willed. Sometimes they would rather please themselves than their "masters."