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no belly rubbing belly rubs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i read recently that belly rubs are not good for training... it can stimulate aggressive behavior..the dog will think it is ok to express dominance behavior toward me by putting paws on me, mouthiing me, head butting me, and so on... kissing? if i do not tolerate the aggression, the dog will look for another creature to express the dominance behavior.. another dog or a child.. NO MORE BELLY RUBS.....PLEASE |
well Im sorry but I think thats the silliest thing I have ever heard |
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i have one... for dogs who roll onto their backs like a freshly caught fish... do not reward this behavior:):aimeeyork |
my little girl loves her tummy rubs and she is the most gentle dog around, she absolutely loves everyone, not an agressive bone in her body. My little boy likes belly rubs first thing in the morning when he is waking up, and then he doesn't care for them. I think it's hard to make general sweeping statements about all dogs, sometimes they just don't apply :) |
I guess Im lucky, none of mine are, when they roll over for a belly rub its becuause its lovin time. |
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the dog that shivers and shakes a lot.. for no obvious reason...:aimeeyork |
from the book....Let The Dog Decide by Dale Stavroff..2007 :aimeeyork |
I can't begin to imagine what Lucy would be like if I took away her belly rubs. I see it as her being very vulnerable on her back with ther belly exposed :) |
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my gidget does this all the time.. i guess i am supposed to ignore the behaviour and look away with disdain.. from now on, im going to just use a brush on the bellys...part of the grooming.. no more belly rubs at my house, especially for sampson and gus.. they are aggressive at 6 months.. i am just looking for answers to prevent any future pack problems..:) its hard to distinguish playtime from aggression.. the worst problem i have had is when someone wakes up gus gus.. he gets pissed... but, he is getting better:):aimeeyork |
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I read that cradling the dog in your arms (belly up like a baby) and rubbing the tummy and chest is putting the dog in a submissive position helping them learn in a small way who's the boss. It's calming for them especially when you need them to settle down a bit after playing hard. I've never heard of tummy rubbing causing more aggression unless the tummy rubbing is done in a rough way instead of softly... |
I don't agree. Alphy is the most lovable dog who hardly makes a peep. His favorite is to just lay in my arms like a baby and have me love on him. I won't deny him that pleasure. Especially at night when we crawl into bed and cuddle. He just lays there and I rub while we watch TV. |
for passive resisters :aimeeyork this is only for dogs who are passive resisters every time the dog flops onto its back or side, walk away with a disdainful attitude. as soon as the dog gets up and follows you, praise her in an upbeat , encouraging tone.. :):) |
then I must not have a passive resister dog because Hot Rod loves his belly rubs. whenver I even pet anywhere near his belly when he is laying down, he lifts his arm and leg so I can rub his belly. He has never shown any sign of agression and I am not sure he would know how. |
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i only have one dog like this.. my others are all different difficult types of dogs are described as 4 types.. dominant, active resister, passive resister,and the fear biter (sharp- shy) the sharp- shy dog is the most difficult type.. i have the first 3 types..these training tips in ...let the dog decide... are working for me and my dogs.. |
H, I am new to the forum and I have a 3 yr old female called Molly and a 2 yr old female called ruby. Ruby absolutely loves belly rubs anytime of the day and will roll over for a love. Molly only likes them when she is in the mood, usually first thing in the morning when she wakes up next to me or last thing at night while watching TV with my husband in bed - she is a daddy's girl. I guess you have to do what works with each individual dog, neither of mine are aggressive at all, so plenty of belly rubbing in our house. I think ruby wouod die of emotional abndonment LOL if we took away the belly rubs!!:aimeeyork Moomops |
This is the craziest thread I've read - what furbaby doesn't deserve a belly rub :confused: Perhaps you should read a different book...I always thought that when a dog rolls over it's classic submissision and they understand you're the pack leader/alpha... Maggie gets them all day long - jeez! When she wakes up, after playing, when she's tired, etc. There's nothing more precious than when she rolls over and her ears flop back and she smiles up at me waiting for a very gratifying belly rub :D |
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no belly rubs for difficult dogs.. like my passive resister...there are lots of different opinions.. :animal-pa someone with multiple dogs has different problems..:) let the dog decide is groundbreaking.... i am thankful i found it.. thanks dale:) |
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