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yorkiemommy2b 02-03-2008 04:55 PM
Loosing Hope
 
I really need some advice on my little guy. We are having such a hard time with him:( . He is a year old and he is still not potty trained, infact, his favorite pooping place is on the couch:eek: I have crate trained him right from the begining and have been very consistant on taking him out. Not only is he having these bad habbits, he is also very hyperactive...now I know that Yorkies are hyper, but this is not normal. I can not even hold him, he does not like to be held, he is too busy and just wants to run around and bounce off the walls! He is also obsessive in licking his legs and is loosing his hair in those spots. I'm not sure if his hyperactivity has something to do with his other bad habbits, or mabey it's just bad breeding?? My husband is at the end of his rope with him and we were almost thinking about finding him a home. Please Help!:(

YorkieAunt 02-03-2008 04:59 PM
Sounds to me like there might be something medically wrong with the little guy? The licking his legs (hotspots), the hyperactivity, pooping on the couch, all sounds like a medical problem and not necessarily a behavioural problem. Have you checked with your vet about all this?

yorkiemommy2b 02-03-2008 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieAunt (Post 1728933)
Sounds to me like there might be something medically wrong with the little guy? The licking his legs (hotspots), the hyperactivity, pooping on the couch, all sounds like a medical problem and not necessarily a behavioural problem. Have you checked with your vet about all this?
No, I havn't, what kind of medical problems could cause all this?

YorkieAunt 02-03-2008 05:03 PM
The first thing that pops to mind is an allergy to his food or something in his treats. I would definitely talk to your vet and see what he/she has to say.

yorkiemommy2b 02-03-2008 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieAunt (Post 1728954)
The first thing that pops to mind is an allergy to his food or something in his treats. I would definitely talk to your vet and see what he/she has to say.
I don't think it's his food, he was on solid gold for a while and I switched him over to Wysong about 4 months ago and he has been the same all along, but thanks for your suggestion, I will talk to the vet about all this.

For My Coby 02-03-2008 05:14 PM
I can only tell you my experience. We had a Yorkie with similar problems and more to boot. It turns out she was a puppy mill puppy with extremely poor breeding. Many of her problems were psychological from breeding. (We bought her from a family rehoming her - the red flags were there - I just didn't recognize them). If the licking isn't because of allergies or something, it could be linked to the hyperactivity (this word does not actually capture how bad it can be) as another form of obsession. Roxie's case was not pretty and extremely stressful.

I understand the family stress also. It's horrible to be placed in a place where you feel you have to make awful decisions.

If you rule out medical issues, I would have your little guy evaluated by a behaviorist, trainer, or other knowlegable expert in order to help you decide what to try or do next.

Good Luck

yoyo27 02-03-2008 05:24 PM
You really have to read the ingredents in the foods you are giving. You might have changed him and have the same issues. But maybe what he is allergic to is still in this food. Its hard to get a really good food today and we as owners need to do alot of researching. I know you feel like you are your last leg with him but if you found out there was something medical wrong and it could be fixed wouldn't that be worth it? Plus the trainers can give you alot of pointers as what helps on your end to get the results you want. Sometimes they can sense your feelings and it only makes matters worse. You have alot of YT members here that will give you advice and you need to realize alot have had the same issues or know what works. Don't give up on the little guy.

yorkiemommy2b 02-03-2008 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by For My Coby (Post 1728986)
I can only tell you my experience. We had a Yorkie with similar problems and more to boot. It turns out she was a puppy mill puppy with extremely poor breeding. Many of her problems were psychological from breeding. (We bought her from a family rehoming her - the red flags were there - I just didn't recognize them). If the licking isn't because of allergies or something, it could be linked to the hyperactivity (this word does not actually capture how bad it can be) as another form of obsession. Roxie's case was not pretty and extremely stressful.

I understand the family stress also. It's horrible to be placed in a place where you feel you have to make awful decisions.

If you rule out medical issues, I would have your little guy evaluated by a behaviorist, trainer, or other knowlegable expert in order to help you decide what to try or do next.

Good Luck
Thank you for sharing your experience with me. I am a dog groomer and I know what alergies and hot spots look like on dogs and I really think that he is just obsessivly licking his legs because of his hyperactivity, and I have a lot of experience with other dogs and their behavior, an my little guy's behavior deffinatly stands out. It has been really stressful on our family, but I am afraid that if I did decide to find him a home...who would deal with all of this?? Can I ask what happened with your little girl? Did you ever correct her problems?

For My Coby 02-03-2008 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiemommy2b (Post 1729053)
Thank you for sharing your experience with me. I am a dog groomer and I know what alergies and hot spots look like on dogs and I really think that he is just obsessivly licking his legs because of his hyperactivity, and I have a lot of experience with other dogs and their behavior, an my little guy's behavior deffinatly stands out. It has been really stressful on our family, but I am afraid that if I did decide to find him a home...who would deal with all of this?? Can I ask what happened with your little girl? Did you ever correct her problems?
I'll PM ya......

soccbydo 02-04-2008 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkiemommy2b (Post 1728922)
I really need some advice on my little guy. We are having such a hard time with him:( . He is a year old and he is still not potty trained, infact, his favorite pooping place is on the couch:eek: I have crate trained him right from the begining and have been very consistant on taking him out. Not only is he having these bad habbits, he is also very hyperactive...now I know that Yorkies are hyper, but this is not normal. I can not even hold him, he does not like to be held, he is too busy and just wants to run around and bounce off the walls! He is also obsessive in licking his legs and is loosing his hair in those spots. I'm not sure if his hyperactivity has something to do with his other bad habbits, or mabey it's just bad breeding?? My husband is at the end of his rope with him and we were almost thinking about finding him a home. Please Help!:(

Was he from a pet store? Sounds like the type of behavior found in dogs who came from mills and sold to pet stores. A yorkie who does not like to be held:eek: . Is he neutered?

yorkiemommy2b 02-04-2008 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by soccbydo (Post 1730217)
Was he from a pet store? Sounds like the type of behavior found in dogs who came from mills and sold to pet stores. A yorkie who does not like to be held:eek: . Is he neutered?
I found him on line on from a breeder in Texas. I never did meet her, I had him shipped to me. I did do some research on her, but I couldn't seem to find anything. He is not neutered yet, but I believe this kind of behavior is not the cause of him not being fixed. The not liking to be held part really gets me:(

lborman042005 02-04-2008 10:14 AM
he has a slightly mischievous look in his eye. I have PM'ed you.

Yorkiedaze 02-04-2008 12:45 PM
First off I would stop giving ALL store bought food & treats, and start feeding him real food. Nothing with coloring or perservatives. Next he needs to be taken out for a really long and fast walk twice daily to get rid of all that vent up energy. Next I'd get him enrolled into obedience class. If that doesn't work, then hire a trainer/behaviorist. Your dog is just bored out of his little brain is all. ;)

yorkiemommy2b 02-04-2008 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze (Post 1731624)
First off I would stop giving ALL store bought food & treats, and start feeding him real food. Nothing with coloring or perservatives. Next he needs to be taken out for a really long and fast walk twice daily to get rid of all that vent up energy. Next I'd get him enrolled into obedience class. If that doesn't work, then hire a trainer/behaviorist. Your dog is just bored out of his little brain is all. ;)
What type of real food do you sugest to feed him? This is what I thought about him just being board, and I did start taking him for walks every day to try to get rid of that energy, but this has not worked. He still comes in the house boucing off the walls and does not take naps, or ever slow down. Then I have heard just the opposite, that I need to make him have rest time because in his case the more tired he gets the worse he can be. I have never seen him actually sleep...only when he was really little. He might get some sleep in his crate at night but only if there are no distractions, but that is when he licks his legs, in his crate when he has nothing else to do. I know a lot about training being a groomer, and reading a lot of good info and I have worked with him a lot. I have gotten a lot of great advice and I really think he just came from a bad breeder. We are going to do our best and work with him a little more. Thank YT for all your support!

katrn 02-04-2008 03:48 PM
I have heard of some pets being diagnosed with OCD (obsessive-Compulsive Disorder) and ADHD. Depending on the vet they will sometimes be able to give meds for these things. I'm sooo sorry for ya'll difficuties and stress. Good Luck


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