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ssguzzy828 05-09-2005 12:43 PM

tink,
We dont want to start yet another controversial thread. I think its just the way your post came across thats all. You are entitled to your opinions and your choices by all means as everyone is. Trust me all of us on this forum agree or disagree on many things but we dont bash anyone for thier choices. Yes some dogs have had bad expieriences with greenies butas has been pointed out there are many things that affect different dogs different ways. Heck my dog had a horrible reaction to carpet fresh (as have a few other dogs that i know of thru my kennel club) but does not mean someone elses dog will have the same reaction. so i guess what Im trying to say is I respect your choice concerning greenies but you should also respect everyones elses choice as well. thats all :cool: .

sue

Clioe 05-09-2005 02:05 PM

I gave a teenie greenie (those for small dogs) to Miffy last week and she chewed and chewed til it was all gone. She seemed to enjoy it very much. Now that her teeth are getting sharper or something, she goes through the nylabone with the pokey bits all over it very quickly, so I thought this one might last longer. She seems fine, no greenish poop. The chihuahua downstairs is fine too. I think I'll go look in the pet shop if they've got other chewy things to clean her teeth.

Hmmm, btw, how do you clean your yorkie's teeth? Miffy eats dry food & canned food with chicken or egg once a week. And she has the Nylabone to chew on.

fasteddie 05-09-2005 08:19 PM

Clioe: Greenies are good for cleaning their teeth, odd that she didn't poop green though. :)

Do you brush her teeth daily? Yorkies teeth can fall out (in old age) if they are not cleaned regularly, as it's happened to some members on here.

I_love_lucy 05-10-2005 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clioe
Hmmm, btw, how do you clean your yorkie's teeth? Miffy eats dry food & canned food with chicken or egg once a week. And she has the Nylabone to chew on.

Lucy has dry food everyday, sometimes with some fresh chicken or fish or something like that. She has as a treat about once a week a greenie or a nutrident quest (whatever our local petshop is selling at the time!) She also has a chew that the vet recommended in a mint flavour (They are called HiLife but I couldnt find them on petsmart, maybe you can only get them in UK?) to chew on whenever she wants. We clean her teeth everyday with a doggy toothpaste. She HATES a normal doggy toothbrush so we got a sort of finger mit with soft bristles on the end

http://www.petsmart.com/global/produ...=1115714952776

I found one at petsmart lol! She still hates it but she doesnt mind it so much. Also when she goes for her jabs, we get the vet to have a check over them, last year she decided that she needed to give tham a quick clean too :D

bettyeanne 05-10-2005 01:30 AM

We have been giving Toto greenies ever since we first discovered that she loved them! The only problem we have ever had ... Patrick picked up the wrong size once [got the medium] and because of our ignorance we let her have one. It gave her an upset stomach ... we inspected the part of it that she hadn't finished and it was very coarse, not smooth like the small ones. I threw the others out and learned a lesson. She loves the teenie ones and we give her one a couple times a week ... she has a little "greenie" stool the next morning! :) Like someone already said, they can choke on lots of things ... we just watch Toto all the time ... she is like having an "eternal toddler"!! ;)

Sydney'sMom 05-10-2005 05:08 AM

Teeth cleaning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Clioe
Hmmm, btw, how do you clean your yorkie's teeth? Miffy eats dry food & canned food with chicken or egg once a week. And she has the Nylabone to chew on.

I use PetDental toothpaste (you can get it at a petstore) and the finger-brush type of toothbrush. Syd loves the taste of the toothpaste...so it is more like a treat than a chore. Also I had the same problem with Syd going through the blue bumpy Nylabone very quickly. So we bought her the next size up and she is not killing it as fast. Plus she likes it because it is more of a challenge to chew.

yorkipower 05-10-2005 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StewiesMom
Yes, the logic in your post is missing. I think its a little (or maybe a lot) ridiculous to go out on a limb and say that people who feed Greenies do not deserve a "precious yorkie". I know what's best for my dog. Greenies helped his stubborn teeth fall out, have made his breath fresh and have supplemented his food with some of the great nutrients that are found in the natural Greenies product.I am not a spokesperson for Greenies. So if I posted that a certain dog food that you are feeding your dog killed a Yorkie, you would stop feeding him/her that and change foods to another?
Who is "you people"?
You DEFINITELY have the right to your opinion on Greenies, but I think that it was a little out-on-a-limb to say that people who use them should not have a dog. That was my point about "logic" not that you caring for other Yorkies is illogical.
I totally respect your opinion and practices of not using any product that you don't see fit for Yorkies. Conversely, however, I do not want to be told that I shouldn't own a Yorkie because of MY personal choices.
People risk their dogs lives everyday whether it be leaving them at home alone w/ food and water (they could choke) or a pee pad (they could chew it) or when a dog and his owner go for a walk -- a bigger dog may come and injure the small dog. It's all about personal choices.

Guys, the reason I cross-posted this warning in the first place was only to give Yorkie owners the knowledge that there COULD be a problem with Greenies and to give them the option to decide for themselves whether the risks involved were worth the benefits. Yes, there are benefits to giving dogs ANY chew product but there are also dangers (the same can be said regarding the controversy over raw food diets, flea and tick repellents and annual vaccinations). The purpose of Yorkietalk is simply education, so that Yorkie lovers can make informed decisions about caring for thier dogs. Posters know that when it comes to things that to me really are about the love or exploitation of Yorkies (like certain breeding practises), I am the first to get on the soap box - but this is NOT one of those cases.

This was not intended to be "controversial" and I apologize if anyone was offended to hurt in anyway by this post. That was NOT my intention. Please - t here is no need to fight about this. Each person can decide for herself whether she will continue buying this product for her dogs.

StewiesMom 05-10-2005 06:20 AM

Yorkipower - I think you are 100% correct. I was getting a little upset because I don't like when people force opinions down my throat about how to care for my dog or say that I should not have the right to own a Yorkie

homiehop3 05-10-2005 10:52 AM

not only is it greenies, but i have given my puppy a mini bites bone to chew on and he sorda kinda got greedy and tore off one of the notted ends. well i kept hearing halo making a noise as if he was choking. i was scared so i woke up my fiancee and he told me to let him outside. when i did he ran to the grass by a little bush and threw something up. i was wondering what it was so i took a stick and poked it in his puke. come to find out it was one of those rawhide mini bites bones that little dogs are to chew on. now i don't give him one unless i am watching him and i dont let him chew on it more than 10 minutes at a time. it gets soggy and he can bit through it and tear off a piece. maybe that is what happened with the greenies.

Clioe 05-10-2005 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sydney'sMom
Also I had the same problem with Syd going through the blue bumpy Nylabone very quickly. So we bought her the next size up and she is not killing it as fast. Plus she likes it because it is more of a challenge to chew.

Oh great idea! I'll get her the bigger one then. I think she'll be able to handle it now that she's bigger. Thanks!

tink-n-kody 05-10-2005 08:45 PM

Everyone has their own opinion
 
Im sorry to say stewiesmom but opinions are part of life , and we all have them! Forced down your throat? take it as you will. I think that is also a part of YT its a place where everyone can share their questions views and opinions. Im sorry if you cannot handle a post by me after YOU tell me there is no logic in MY post?? Then you tell everyone you are getting upset? If you cannot handle everyones opinions dont state your own, that would save you a lot of throat cramming I guess. Good Day, Amanda :aimeeyork

Mydogkelsey 05-10-2005 08:56 PM

I've heard a lot of bad things about this product, so I haven't tried them out on my dog at all. I hear it's bad for their digestive system? Who knows..but after that story I definitly wont be using them. So sad! :(

natalie 05-10-2005 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tink-n-kody
Im sorry to say stewiesmom but opinions are part of life , and we all have them! Forced down your throat? take it as you will. I think that is also a part of YT its a place where everyone can share their questions views and opinions. Im sorry if you cannot handle a post by me after YOU tell me there is no logic in MY post?? Then you tell everyone you are getting upset? If you cannot handle everyones opinions dont state your own, that would save you a lot of throat cramming I guess. Good Day, Amanda :aimeeyork

Your post seems somewhat aggressive. I am sure StewiesMom means no harm. She was offended because you said we should NOT own a Yorkie if we feed them Greenies (which even to me, I find that a little offensive). That seems more of a comment than an opinion, and being in a Yorkie-owner forum.. someone will get offended and I think you hit the nail on the head when you made that comment. There are people on here that have raised and owned Yorkies for years, even decades. I am sure they know what to feed and what not to feed their lil' ones. Like the cliche term states, "Momma knows best". Everyone already stated and I agree, it's all personal preference and it's also up to the Yorkie's chewing habits, swallowing habits and the Yorkie size. If you Yorkie likes to swallow big chunks of objects whole, THAT would then be illogical to give your dog a Greenie without supervision.
Just because a couple Yorkies around the world had problems digesting Greenies does not mean that every single Yorkie will have a problem with it. And just because a few Yorkies had problems does not mean EVERY single Yorkie owner should stop feeding their Yorkies these Greenies. You don't have to STOP feeding it to them altogether just because we're all reading about one bad problem. It should make you watch over your dog more carefully BECAUSE you read about that one problem.
Persay, people have food poisoning eating certain things at certain restaurants. Just because that one person ran into this misfortune does not stop other people from eating there. They are just more cautious when they DO eat there.

Maybe you should think before you say on here that we don't deserve to own Yorkies because we ALL do and we all know how to take care of them. They all have their individual needs and wants that we know about and you don't, so to come around and judge ALL of us because we give our babies Greenies still doesn't give any justification as to why we don't deserve to have the dogs that we already love.

Yorkies*Forever 05-11-2005 12:18 AM

Jmo
 
I started giving my dogs Greenies just a year ago because a friend of mine swore my them. My dogs love them, her dogs love them and neither have ever had a problem. I think that any dog should be watch while they are eating a bone of any kind. They can always bite off a piece and swallow it wrong. I noticed in the pictures that they were pieces of a Greenie, not the whole thing. Those pieces also looked like they were to small for that dog to be eating. I also think that they can eat them too fast and cause them to swallow a piece that they have bit off rather than chewing it. JMO

I_love_lucy 05-11-2005 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natalie
Your post seems somewhat aggressive. I am sure StewiesMom means no harm. She was offended because you said we should NOT own a Yorkie if we feed them Greenies (which even to me, I find that a little offensive). That seems more of a comment than an opinion, and being in a Yorkie-owner forum.. someone will get offended and I think you hit the nail on the head when you made that comment. There are people on here that have raised and owned Yorkies for years, even decades. I am sure they know what to feed and what not to feed their lil' ones. Like the cliche term states, "Momma knows best". Everyone already stated and I agree, it's all personal preference and it's also up to the Yorkie's chewing habits, swallowing habits and the Yorkie size. If you Yorkie likes to swallow big chunks of objects whole, THAT would then be illogical to give your dog a Greenie without supervision.
Just because a couple Yorkies around the world had problems digesting Greenies does not mean that every single Yorkie will have a problem with it. And just because a few Yorkies had problems does not mean EVERY single Yorkie owner should stop feeding their Yorkies these Greenies. You don't have to STOP feeding it to them altogether just because we're all reading about one bad problem. It should make you watch over your dog more carefully BECAUSE you read about that one problem.
Persay, people have food poisoning eating certain things at certain restaurants. Just because that one person ran into this misfortune does not stop other people from eating there. They are just more cautious when they DO eat there.

Maybe you should think before you say on here that we don't deserve to own Yorkies because we ALL do and we all know how to take care of them. They all have their individual needs and wants that we know about and you don't, so to come around and judge ALL of us because we give our babies Greenies still doesn't give any justification as to why we don't deserve to have the dogs that we already love.


Well said!

tink-n-kody 05-11-2005 10:12 AM

As I stated before everyone has their own opinion! I myselelf am VERY protective over both of my yorkies sometimes my boyfriend even thinks I am crazy because I dont want anything bad to happen to them. I just am tired of people telling their stories about greenies. Since the first post about them I never even thought of giving them to my babies. If people hear the stories and have a weird feeling about it I say dont give it to them, period. Though I have never heard of a lot of people talking about their dog choking on anything else have you?? Im not on here everyday of my life like some people, so I dont know. I would rather spend time with my dogs than sit and CHAT to people about them. Im sorry Iam not the kind of person to get all upset and not post anymore, like some people that have been run off by some of you members, you know who you are. Good Day Amanda :aimeeyork

She-ra's Mama 05-11-2005 10:55 AM

See, that is thigs I have been hearing and I'm afraid to let She-ra use them!!!Oh, me. :(

natalie 05-11-2005 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tink-n-kody
As I stated before everyone has their own opinion! I myselelf am VERY protective over both of my yorkies sometimes my boyfriend even thinks I am crazy because I dont want anything bad to happen to them. I just am tired of people telling their stories about greenies. Since the first post about them I never even thought of giving them to my babies. If people hear the stories and have a weird feeling about it I say dont give it to them, period. Though I have never heard of a lot of people talking about their dog choking on anything else have you?? Im not on here everyday of my life like some people, so I dont know. I would rather spend time with my dogs than sit and CHAT to people about them. Im sorry Iam not the kind of person to get all upset and not post anymore, like some people that have been run off by some of you members, you know who you are. Good Day Amanda :aimeeyork

If you were tired of reading horror stories, why read them and make such offensive comments? All of us are protective over our pets. I don't know a single person that owns one and isn't protective (not saying that people who aren't protective don't exist, I just don't know of one). I'm pretty much on here everyday, and I see nothing wrong with it! I love Yorkietalk. I learn so much from this place but just because YorkieTalkers sit on the computer doesn't mean we leave our pets neglected as we do so. My baby loves to look at pictures, that's why I always encourage people to post them! (lol, he's mesmerized by all these hot chicks!) As for your last comment about being run off the board because of "you-know-who-you-are"s, that's pretty impolite. Noone intentionally "runs people off". They leave on their own will because they might not want to hear everyones opinions or morally disagree with something being discussed. There's a whole array of reasons! :rolleyes:

lol, I just bought Fred another Greenie and he is just gnawing away on that thing like his life depended on it! It's soo cute. He's rolling around on his back with that thing between his paws and throws it around. Does anyone elses Yorkie do that with their Greenies? :D

ssguzzy828 05-11-2005 04:05 PM

All right you guys, heres what I think and let me know if you agree. I truly believe that all of these rude asanine comments are being made by people on another forum. If you notice in the past month there have been a few newbies that look for controversy get very insulting then leave. Im guessing these people are either very jealous that we have a very close,knowledgable,trusting,and friendly forum and that this forum is doing as well as it is or they are just born trouble makers who are very disturbed and miserable. JMHO

sue

SoCalyorkiLvr 05-11-2005 04:11 PM

Inedible greenies
 
I just today finally found a store that had the mini "nonedible" greenies in stock. They are rubber like and they are shaped like the edible ones in the toothbrush shape but my yorkies didn't care for them. I am so disappointed because I thought maybe this was the perfect solution.Has anyone else tried them?

SoCalyorkiLvr 05-11-2005 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssguzzy828
All right you guys, heres what I think and let me know if you agree. I truly believe that all of these rude asanine comments are being made by people on another forum. If you notice in the past month there have been a few newbies that look for controversy get very insulting then leave. Im guessing these people are either very jealous that we have a very close,knowledgable,trusting,and friendly forum and that this forum is doing as well as it is or they are just born trouble makers who are very disturbed and miserable. JMHO

sue

Sure sounds possible to me.

Mya's_Mom 05-11-2005 04:29 PM

My sympathy to K, thank you for the warning.

jesscruz 05-11-2005 08:01 PM

feew! i just got through reading all the posts on this subject and all i have to say is this, i will continue to give coco greenies and i will monitor him while he eats them. natalie, stewie, you have handled that person very well. if this person is so upset with people here then LEAVE! noone is keeping you here your immature comments are not needed ,everyone here loves thier babies and want what's best for them i don't think anyone here would want to intentionally hurt thier babies. i feel that this person was out of line with saying, you people(what the hell does that mean), and by saying we shouldn't own a yorkie because we give them greenies, give me a break! people take asprin for pain even though some say it's bad for you,and yet some people say it's good for you? so it's the same with greenies, every dog is different no dog is identical so therefor they may not handle greenies the same as with any other product, get my drift i mean it's common scense to know that. so i feel that this "person" did not need to make such remarks i mean gosh iv'e been her for awhile and yes i get on here everyday(wich is my perogative) and i also have noticed "certain newbies" being really stupid, yes stupid!i mean it's really starting to upset me. and then they put the blame on us! what the hell's going on!

natalie 05-11-2005 08:13 PM

:eyetearss "You people " reminds me of Adam Sandler in Anger Management!! hahaha
He's sitting in an airplane and the flight attendant gets him in some trouble and he says something like "What is wrong with you people?" and this big black guy stares at him and says "YOU PEOPLE, sir?" Hahaha! I'm a sucker for comedy.. and, being off-topic :rolleyes:

jesscruz 05-11-2005 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natalie
:eyetearss "You people " reminds me of Adam Sandler in Anger Management!! hahaha
He's sitting in an airplane and the flight attendant gets him in some trouble and he says something like "What is wrong with you people?" and this big black guy stares at him and says "YOU PEOPLE, sir?" Hahaha! I'm a sucker for comedy.. and, being off-topic :rolleyes:

lol....good one! imean i'm just wondering what she means by that.she says you people alot.

LvMyYorki 05-11-2005 08:32 PM

I took the "digestable" greenies away from mine after reading this a while ago. I just didnt want to take the chance and wasnt sure if I would be able to monitor each piece that he chewed off, so I found the new greenies, made by the same exact company. They are the non-edible kind and they are called "Smart Greenies." They sell them at Pet Supermarket and you can get them from www.petedge.com also.
At first my guy wasnt too impressed, but now he LOVES it! My little girl has no interest. She is perfectly content with Nylabones in every shape size and flavor!

diva pup 05-11-2005 08:59 PM

I too thought it was a risk not worth taking. I have had my baby choke on a "safe" bone and from now on he gets the fake greenie or nothing.
You would be surprised at how big of a chunk they can bite off with little effort.
I think I read the label on the petite greenies and they were NOT recommended for toy dogs, look at their weight recommendations. I believe it was either 10 or 20 lbs and over. I am not going to swear to that but I am pretty sure I am right.

fasteddie 05-11-2005 09:09 PM

LvMyYorki & Diva Pup: Interesting, thanks for telling us about the Smart Greenies. I think the direct link below should work. Is there a scent on there? Or what makes your Yorkie want to chew on them? We might have to give them a go and see how Yoda likes em. :)

http://www.petedge.com/shopping/prod...ctID=4359&AS=1

tink-n-kody 05-11-2005 09:35 PM

First of all jesscruz Im not going to leave so deal with it. People have been offended and have left say what you want but members have ran people off, I however am not leaving! Im just too opinionated to get my feelings hurt. You dont have to refer to me as some 'PEOPLE" my name on here is TINK-N-KODY or more formally (amanda) address me by my name if you like I dont mind be specific. I also am not a newbie read under my name I have graduated to a yakker so get it right! You said my comments were asanine or whatever, and you called me stupid and who is immature?? Also come on is it really necessary to curse? That is what I think is so amusing is you all get so huffy over my opinion and look at you making yourself look silly stating your opinion. LOL Amanda :aimeeyork

natalie 05-11-2005 09:45 PM

CAN WE JUST ALL GET ALONG??

It doesn't take much to be friendly.


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