Tiger Kennel Yorkies In Ca
 

in Fullerton, CA
I think the are puppymill...... They have alot of dogs.... probably 50 or more :confused:
and the owner only cares if you have money to buy it... if you don't ...leave... :mad: he said take it or leave it...... :mad: that was odd.......:thumbdown

WOw really???? I actually bought my Kobe from there last January. The guy, Mike and his family seemed nice....I did notice they had a lot of dogs...but I guess I didnt think anything of it, since the place was clean and he let me look around. Hmmmmm....and I was actually thinking about buying a lil sister for Kobe....I'm nervous now. Maybe because it was hard to understand his bad english (I'm not trying to be funny, I'm so serious) that he came off as harsh?? I dunno....what else did you notice?? The only thing I was pissed about was when he was getting my Kobe ready to go home, he cut his nails to far back and he was bleeding!!! :mad:

When you start looking for a puppy try http://ytca.org/frame_index2.html. They list area breed clubs and breeders that are reputable who might have nice puppies or could put you in contact with breeders that do. This way you don't have to worry about buying from puppymills and bad back yard breeders. Good luck.

Congratulations for your puppy!!!
Well this is my story.. I called him to ask if he has adult ones maybe because it is reasonable. He keep saying come over and we will talk about it and show you what we have. So I got there and told me that the older they are the more expensive they get?!!?? So I said okay can I see them so they show me one and she is filthy, her coat is shaved off and they are asking $2000 for her. For a puppy I guess it's okay price but for 5 years old and doesn't look well taken care of .. I said no...so he showed me a much older one that look worse than the first one and more expensive because she has a red face??!! He said she was rare that's why he is asking for more. So I said no then I ask if I can look around the backyard and my goodness, they have alot of dogs and got them debarked because of the neighbors. I don't you could tell who is the father of those puppies. They look happy because there are so many of them but I think they are puppymill because they obviously only want my money and just keep producing puppies for quantities not quality.

WOW!!!!! OMG!!! :( I did notice that he was finicky with the pricing....for example, over the phone he told me 1100, then when I got there, the price moved up to 2100. :thumbdown He obviously saw how much I wanted a yorkie and thats why obviously, he was able to raise the price. Well then I def. will not be buying another yorkie from there!! :mad: I mean, if someone is as good (as I thought he was), there WILL NEVER be an instance where ANYONE is making claims such as the puppys being dirty and debarked!!! OMG!!! I think that is the cruelest thing ever!!!! :mad: There is a place that my Aunt went to near Corona that is good....she has never had any problems, had great things to say, and I found out later, paid 1000 less than I did for her girl. Let me know if you want the contact info! :) And wow....I am sooo sorry for your experience!! :(

WOW!!! I just thought about it!!! Mike is full of crap!! "The older they get...they more expensive..." ??? That doesnt even make sense!! If it did, then why did he charge me 2100 for a teacup puppy @ 8wks old??? WOW!!! :mad: :thumbdown

Yup! I turned around and never came back!! but just be careful of buying a dog. you'll never know. I am happy that I discovered yorkie talk. It is just sad that I didn't discover it before I purchased one. I guess we learn from experience, which I did. And still need to learn more. :)


I have one more question.. Did you go to the backyard? where the dogs are??? Don't you think there were too many of them? And noticed that they are all shaved off and longing for attention??

Yeah, your right about that! I also didnt discover yorkietalk until after I bought my dog! :rolleyes: And yes, I did go to the backyard and I did notice that some of the dogs were shaved....honestly I guess I didnt question it because I assumed he did that because it was easier than to groom the dogs?? :confused: After being on this site...I would have def. asked questions about it! And you are so right about the dogs longing for attention!!! :eek: I DID NOTICE THAT....but silly me assumed that they were just playful hyper pups!! Ohhhh...I feel soooo bad now! :( But you learn from your mistakes!!

And thanks for posting this!!! I was going to buy another pup from him....NOT ANYMORE!!!!

And I am sooo sorry that you experienced that!! :(

Do you have information on the breeder in Corona?

I definetly would stay away from there.

Debarked????? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: What in the world?? Please tell me this guy didn't do that!

Yeah, mike is not a good breeder, he is only after money. we bought a shih tzu (he had two at the time) from him and it died from giardia and coccidia in a week. Even the replacement puppy (which we argue like mad to even get a replacement) had giardia and coccidia and when we told him so he can prevent others from getting sick, he got mad and said that he was a "good" breeder. I would never buy another dog from him. We were too naive at the time when we bought it. When we thought we were experienced enough, we find out we are not. I got lots of other details. But I wouldn't want to bore you. Just don't buy from him! :mad:

I bought a Yorkie from him also on Dec 7. The day after getting him home, he was showing signs of kennel cough!
And at first, he looked like he had a really thick coat, but after trying to groom him, it was really because his coat was full of knots and feces! I had to cut out all the knots and feces because it was impossible to brush out.
Then, after taking him to a vet, he was also diagnosed with the kennel cough, worms, and giardia!
I also have to mention that when I was buying my puppy, Mike was trying to give me AKC papers that belonged to a different litter (he said the papers were left over from a previous litter and that since the sire was the same, it didn't matter). I made him sign a contract to get the real papers and am still trying to make sure he really applies for them.
Also, as I picked up the puppy, he was filling in the shot records for the past few months. And after all the visits to the vet, I'm pretty sure he didn't really administer the shots.

PLEASE call AKC and tell them about trying to give you papers from a old litter. They are VERY STRICT about this and it does matter!! They will want to know about this so they can do some checking on his breeding practices!! If you buy a registered pup you deserve the correct date of birth and correct parents. AKC will be able to tell you if he even registered that litter of pups you got yours from. I guessing he didn't if he is trying to give you papers from another dogs litter. take care

Welcome to yt:D . I hope your puppy is feeling better. :( I didn't purchase a dog or puppy from him tho because of the fact that he is rude to us when we were there and quoted us a lot more money for older dogs that doesn't even look healthy. :mad: That is very good that you asked him to sign a contract but still, it might not be the real parents:( (just my thought) because they have so many dogs running around. :thumbdown

Why is shaving down your Yorkies a bad thing?

Its not a bad thing.... but when you have a 50 dogs that's a good thing because you don't have to worry about the tangles, the dirt and fleas as much and you can leave them outside for the rest of their life like he does.:mad: all he has to do it give them food and water so that they will reproduce. that means good money...

Oh ok, I see. Some of mine are kept shorter because their coats are too difficult to manage...lol...and I only have 6...but just doing it so they can stay outside is NOT acceptable! Mine are all inside ALL THE TIME...only out to potty supervised...I can't imagine not allowing them to be inside at all!! :eek:

I am so saddened after reading all these posts. I can't believe I gave that man my business a yr ago. My Kobe also had Kennel Cough when I first received him...if you do a search, you will find TONS of threads when other yorkie mommies were giving me advice because Kobe was always hacking or coughing and I was terrified. This just goes to show you that you MUST do your OWN RESEARCH before buying a puppy from a breeder. And to think I thought he was "good" because for two months after, he would call to check up and see how Kobe was doing! :( Luckily, he hasent had any problems...I thank God everyday!

:eek: You have 6:eek: how can you manage all of them:eek: I only have three and ...my... my.... they are handful.... :rolleyes: I :bravo: :bravo: you for that.!!!

I wonder where do they keep/take their yorkie if it rains?? :confused:

Tiger Kennel: my personal experience
 

I stumbled upon this post and felt compelled to reply. I do not believe that TIger Kennel is anything but a superior facility and Mr. Kim a most excellent breeder. Here's my story: I bought my sweet little Yorkie, Lily from Mr. Mike Kim. Mr. Kim is Korean I believe and yes, he is a serious gentleman and perhaps a bit difficult to understand. But, that is to be expected of anyone who is English-second language, don't you think? My experience was excellent. I visited several breeders before buying from Tiger Kennel. I made numerous different unplanned and unannounced visits to Mr. Kim and found the dogs, home and yard utterly immaculate each time. I was invited inside the home to see the newest litter on one occasion. I was not allowed to disturb them, but they were in a lovely, clean area with their mother. None of the dogs were shaved when I was there, all were clean and even being bathed once when I showed up. I saw some in Kennels/runs outside and four or five at a time were always out to play in the yard each time I was there. They had a beautiful orchard-like area, a fenced yard area, and a delightful area complete with LIttle Tikes gyms that Mr. Kim had for them. I arrived one day to find Mr. Kim administering vaccines to some pups. The playpen these pups were in was immaculate and as one would potty, Mr. Kim would remove one of the layers of paper. Mr. Kim also had an assistant each time I was there. I was always allowed to play with the pups of a suitable age after using the anti-bacterial lotion provided to me, showing tremendous concern for the pups. I asked to see both parents of the pups I was considering and asked many questions about colors of Yorkies in adulthood. I expressed an interest in perhaps breeding once and Mr. Kim indicated that I should then choose a Yorkie not too small...not less than 4 lbs as she would have too difficult a time breeding and he couldn't recommend it. He let me take my time, bring back my husband, son and Mother-in-law on many occasions and was always patient and helpful to me. This was last year. I did buy my baby from him, after experiencing far less professional and pleasant experiences with the other breeders I was considering. Mr. Kim's concern for his babies was so professional and sincere, that I had to wait until my pup was a suitable age and size to come home with me, a time he indicated would be sometime after 8 weeks, depending upon my availability to be very close to home in the first few weeks. His concern was touching. I bought a beautiful little girl, named her Princess Tiger-Lily (Lily) after the esteemable Mr. Kim and his kennel, I received her papers without problem, received some food for her, instructions on her shots, etc and some discussion about hypoglycemia in wee Yorkies and cautions about her care. I even received a lovely Varikennel from Mr. Kim... all for the very agreeable price of $1800. Lily went immediatley for her well-check to our family vet who deemed her to be in superb condition! Mr. Kim indicated to me that to his best guess, Lily would be close to 4 lbs. She is in fact now one year and three months old and weighs in at 4.1 lbs. She has never been sick, is lovely, well socialized and adored by all. People routinely stop me in the street to say that she is gorgeous. My vet continues to say how she is the picture of perfection in health and the lovely lady who owns the dog shop I frequent for Lily's clothing always tells everyone who will listen, "Oh! Here's Lily. She is the most beautiful Yorkie I have ever seen!" I cannot imagine a more excellent breeder with whom to do business and I hope that this was helpful to anyone seeking a healthy and wonderful Yorkie baby. Don't hesitate to contact me for further details! Melanie Brunell

Wow, it sounds like he really liked you!! He didnt seem to care about the other posters here. Nor did he care about the health of the puppies sold. Wonder why he would change his apparent ways?

is this his website TigerKennel.com, Yorkies, Maltese, Breeders, teacup yorkie, teacup maltese, ???

Tiger Kennel same as AceYorkies.com
 

Yes, that's the place, now he renamed himself at http://www.Aceyorkies.com. I am not sure why if your reputable, you would have to change website and change your name. If you ask me he is in it just for the money.

It is strange that some of the posters say Tiger Kennel had "like 50 dogs". There were never that many dogs there on any of the occasions I was there. There were perhaps six to eight, to the best of my recollection. And I played with them all! As I previously stated, I actually spent a great deal of time there and did get a wonderful dog from Mr. Kim. My experience is firsthand and it was superb. My dog is beautiful and healthy.

Rather than imagine nefarious reasons for why the kennel would change names, I inquired directly to the old phone number I had for Mr. Kim. To my deep regret, I learned that Mr. Kim had passed away from cancer. And in my experience, new management...though they don't "have to", often chooses to change the name of a business, especially when the former owner has died. Nothing diabolical about it...just sad.

I would like to say too that if I were struggling with cancer, I might had made a mistake with someone's paperwork too, or even have cause to be a bit grumpy on occasion, don't you think? Grumpiness which might be confused with rudeness perhaps? Pain is a terrible thing to have at any time and can impact our lives in many ways. Not to mention that English Second Language speakers are often misunderstood. There are cultural varients in speech which simply don't always translate correctly or gently.

Additionally, as any good breeder can tell you, an older dog isn't cheaper if it is of good quality, and especially if it is a proven good breeder, or of proven show quality. In that case, the cost would be much higher. So to think that any older dog could be a less expensive dog is unreasonable. Mr. Kim's response to come over and talk about the puchase was appropriate IMHO.

And we all know that as tiny toy or teacup breeds are highly desirable these days, the smaller the dog, the higher the price due to the law of supply and demand. Females are also more expensive than males. So, to ask someone over the phone to quote you a price for any dog is not really fair...they don't know if you will choose a male or female, a teacup or a toy or standard sized dog until you actually arrive and select one. So a price range is all that one could expect from a question over the phone

As for your suggestion that Mr. Kim was "in it just for the money", I would say that there are far easier ways to make money than dog breeding. It is a job that keeps you busy 24 hours a day and there is much sadness involved when ultimately, some pups don't survive. And it's certainly no way to get rich, especially on the modest scale that Mr. Kim maintained at his kennel.

I have a picture of a smiling Mr. Kim with my mother-in-law and my sweet Lily before she came home to me. I will always be grateful to him for giving me this bundle of love and for the professionalism that he displayed in every way. Mr. Kim was a wonderful breeder, informative, gentle and caring. I would wish for anyone the same positive experience I had with whomever they do business with.

I noticed that their dogs are all registered with Registry: Certified Purebreed Database/C.P.D.Certified Purebred Database dog registration. Register your puppy or dog today! - Home None of them are registered with AKC. I also find this website PuppyLandLA.com, Yorkies, Maltese, Breeders, teacup yorkie, teacup maltese, Pet Shop at their puppies for sale!they look like the puppies they have for sale atAce Yorkies - Yorkie Breeder, Orange County, Los Angeles.

Okay..... So who's dog are those in the backyard??? I am still very young to see how many dogs and can tell the difference between 1 to 100. :rolleyes: English is my second language too and I was there talking to him face to face. He told me if you don't have the money...... leave. (take it or leave it):mad: The older one that I was asking doesn't look too good. I just wan't to get her out of there. He said she was rare because she has a red face?? :confused:

Visit Tiger Kennel anytime
 

Mike does have a heavy accent and I had to listen to understand him, but his actions impressed me. He is proud of his kennel, and I feel rightly so.


I recently spent time at Tiger Kennels and was pleased that Mike said I could come anytime I wanted without an appointment. In the past, with other kennels, I would always have to make an appointment and was usually not allowed to tour the grounds where the yorkies were kept. Mike proudly showed me the puppy kennels, a heated room with about 3 or 4 mommies with their litters. Maintaining a coat on a Yorkie is a lot of work and I have three and have them groomed every 3 weeks as well as trying to grooming them myself and they are constantly picking up weeds and anything they walk over into their fur.
One thing about reviews, people who are unhappy write here. I just thought I'd say what I felt and saw for myself.
You can visit Tiger Kennels online at TigerKennels.com. They do not hide anything as I have seen other kennels do.
I used his stud service and he was very helpful with my litter and did a beautiful job of docking their tails and also offered to give them their shots at a very low price. I am not a breeder, just love Yorkies and have kept all of the four puppies in our family. In addition to the other 8 in our family.:animal36

AKC format for complaint
 

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Customer-Driven DNA Complaint Policy

Effective July 1, 2002: Any AKC customer who questions the recorded parentage of a dog or litter may submit a complaint in writing to the AKC requesting DNA testing. The complaint must be accompanied by a deposit of $500.00. If the allegation is sustained the deposit is returned. If the allegation is not sustained, the deposit is forfeited and becomes the property of The American Kennel Club.

In cases where parentage is shown to be incorrect, AKC will work with customers to correct the registrations of dogs and litters when possible. The responsible parties will be billed for the DNA processing costs and registration correction fees. Registration services will be placed on hold until payment is made. When corrections cannot be made, the necessary registrations will be converted to Conditional Registration. The AKC disciplinary procedures will apply to exclusions discovered as a result of this policy.

Well for one, an earlier post just stated that Mike had past away so it is now a mute point.. Second.. How can anyone explain how the same puppies are for sale on two totally different websites, one of those sites now being owned by someone who took over Mike's kennel.. and third....this thread is almost a year old...