Beware of Simba's Pride in Nevada Hi All, We recently purchased a puppy from Simba's Pride. When we met at the state border to pick up the puppy he was very listless and lethargic which we attributed to the long car ride etc. His health deteriorated and we took him to vet and they treated him for dehydration. We contacted the breeder and were told our little guy had thrown up a lot on the trip to meet us. Of course they did not tell us that when we paid for him. Before the first week was up he almost died twice --seizing etc. He literally spent the first two weeks at between the emrgency hospital and day vet. Diagnosis was hypoglocimia resulting from Giardia and tape worm. The vets all said he came with those parasites and to contact breeder. At first the breeder was very apologetic and offered to help with bills or give us a new pup if he died (not sure why they thought we wuld want another sick pup). Fortunately the little guy survived the ordeal and we have over $2,000 in vet bills. The breeder now says she will not help with anything. She wanted us to bring the puppy back to her for care when he was critical which of course was impossible because he could not have survived the trip.We have sought legal advice and fortunately should be able to recoup money. The problem is that the vets informed us that he either got giardia from his mother as a carrier or from the kennel. In our last conversation with the breeder she is not treating her dogs for giardia which means someone else may have to endure all this grief. Please help us get the word out. |
This is really something, and it sounds like a case where you can get your money back. Please keep us posted on the outcome and don't let her get away with this. I would have the state where she's from investigate her to, she can't continue to get away with this. |
Couple of quick questions to educate myself. I know yorkies are notorious for hypoglocimia which is low blood sugar, simiple honey on the gums can fix this level. But I am confused about the giardia causing hypo. Giardia is a bacteria that humans and animals receive from drinking water that has been contaminated with animal feces. And tape worms are from fleas. All is treatable, but I would be concerned about parents and what condition they were in. Before you purchased the pup did you request photos of sire and dam? I understand pups getting car sick, but not throwing them into dehydration. I would think the breeder after showing vet written confirmation would pay ALL expenses, because obviously they delivered an unhealthy pup. But then again what condition are the parents in? Just curious wanting to educate myself. Tinksmomok |
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Hi, You are right about giardia. Most of the time a dog's immune system will fight it off but in small puppies it can create alot of problems. The giardia caused excessive diaharria which led to the problem of hypoglocemia. Yes the vet definitely said he came with it and being so young etc. it really got the best of him. The vet also said more than likely the mother is a carrier and he got it from nursing. There are lemon laws in Nevada that do hold her responsible so we are just filing in court as we speak. thanks for you interest. JL |
My Simba Experience I agree that this is probably more like a puppy mill than a "breeder," and I would discourage people from buying puppies from Simba's Pride. Last year we bought an adult dog from Simba's Pride. She was a breeder that they had decided to retire. She was described as "sweet" and "housebroken." She was neither. We essentially paid $500 for a rescue dog. We have spent over $1,000 on animal behaviorists and training. She has been described as having kennel syndrome. She has no social skills with people. She has horrible separation anxiety. She is extremely fearful of men, and particularly of men's shoes and feet. We think she was abused, or at best, neglected. After a lot of work, she is starting to act like a dog, but it has been a difficult and heartbreaking experience. I am sure there are many reputable breeders out there. Look for one. |
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Puppies should be free of all parasites and well on their way after weaning and a good weight before they should be adopted out to a new home. Yes diahrrea and throwing up can caused dehydration very quickly in a small dog and even moreso a little puppy. It can make it worse if they then drink too much water as it will often increase vomiting and will throw off the electrolytes and balances of minerals such as potassium/sodium even more. Usually a subq fluid either under the skin or a drip in severe cases is required. Even in adult dogs prolonged fluid loss can be critical in these little breeds, the smaller the dog the higher the risk for permanent damage or death. |
Another Simba's Pride Story This thread confirms what I have suspected since we bought our one-year-old Yorkie from Simba's Pride in December 2006: we rescued our dog for $700. Days after we brought Fergie home, she was described by the vet as "undernourished" (less than 4 lbs). She also had open sores around her neck that the doctor attributed to fleas. Thankfully, her health was otherwise fine -- although her demeanor, we learned, was far from it. Fergie's disposition was identical to the previous post: "no social skills with people; horrible separation anxiety; and extremely fearful of men." She ran away from us constantly for the first two months and would regularly bark at my husband. She wouldn't play with us or her toys. She defecated everywhere. We also believed she had been abused or neglected. After five months of very dedicated work with her, she is now about 95% housebroken and has finally warmed to my husband. While she is still very timid around strangers (men, in particular), her weight is up as are her spirits. She is developing into a very sweet, loyal companion. My advice: shop around. |
Fergie, I'm so sorry that you had this experience, too. I know that you know how painful it is. Our dog is now on an antidepressant (Elavil) twice a day. She has been on for about a month. We are starting to see some improvements. For example, her separation anxiety seems to be lessening. We have worked very hard on her issues with men, but I don't know if she'll ever fully be normal. It causes a lot of tension in our home, but I can't think of sending her to a new home because our behaviorist said she would regress to the point she was at when we got her. We've invested too much in getting her this far. She can be very, very sweet and affectionate. I don't think she'll ever learn to "play." When she starts to play she freaks herself out! It's like she gets so excited and she doesn't know what to do with it so she stops and runs away. Anyway, she brings us happiness, sadness, and has taught us a LOT about patience! She loves other dogs, so we are thinking about getting a pal for her. I think that might make her happier, and may also provide a model for typical dog behavior. Good luck. |
My mom had started this post about my puppy Ruger, and i am so sorry to hear that other people have had problems with this breeder. i am in the process of taking them to court. I just wish i would have gotten information out here sooner so no one else had to suffer. Ruger is doing very well now and is the light of my life. I found it interesting that your dog had open sores from flea bites. When my dog had a worm (can't remember exactly what) it comes from fleas she told me they didn't have fleas in nevada! she must think i am crazy, a state that doesn't have fleas give me a break! I wouldn't give Ruger up for the world but i will never do busniess with these people again and i would advise others to stay clear. I was never even given the vet check even after i have requested it! |
OMG that is really disgusting and good for you putting the word out on them. That makes me sick they'd ship a sick puppy - that poor little thing.... To all of you that dealt with this awful sounding 'kennel'...Keep posting about it and I would also report them to the BBB and the local authorities because you really don't know if they're treating their other sick dogs....that's just pathetic they have to live that way... janlar3...how is your puppy now ?? |
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When I got Sachi, he was flea ridden (came from Texas) and my vet didnt want to treat him because the fleas cannot survive in this environment and would end up dying. So when I saw your baby had flea bites I thought it was odd?? |
that is not true!! i Live in Nevada and I work at a vets office. True our winters are harsh and we dont get as much fleas, but we DO get them. And they are treatable just like fleas anywhere else. |
i am so sorry this happened. thanks for the insight |
I see this post is old but if the op and others that got sick dogs /pups from this person, I would call the people who license kennels in NV and tell them to go check the conditions!! How in the world could a person send someone a dog with open sores on her neck?:mad: I mean really, they need to be checked on ! |
simbas pride has no pride I was just going to post a BEWARE about SIMBAS PRIDE KENNEL and tell my story just to see this well let me add to it . I bought 2 adult females from her in march they are very cute and sweet. I inquired about 2 more she said if I would take 3 shed give me a deal 700 a piece. well i didnt want 3 more only 2 so when it came time that these 3 dogs all of which were weaning puppies were ready and she was making the trip to SACRAMENTO (in which I found out she advertises in our news paper monthly to sell puppies) to bring the dogs I told her I didnt want the 1 dog. She insisited I take her that a deal was a deal. So I got stuck with this BIG yorkie who is a poor example of the breed. When I took it to the vet it had sores all over its neck severe runny stools and the vet said the teeth were of a 5 year old dog not 2. I called her asap and she said the vet was wrong and the dog was indeed 2 her AKC papers were right.not to mention the dog never shuts up, Kelly asured me this dog didnt bark as one of the first 2 do nothing but bark. well LIE number 2. This all has gone on since May 30. Well come to find out this dog started to pick on one of the small sweet yorkies and on one ocassion she got very aggressive, so i called Kelly (SIMBAS PRIDE KENNEL) and she said not to worry she was just trying to be the alpha dog. Needless to say my husband and I went out for an hour and a half for fireworks the fourth to return to find my small little girl ripped up by this animal her skin coming off the hind quarters puntcure wounds all over her body covered in blood and dirt. She must have been attacked out side and drug her poor little self in the house I immediatly swept her up and washed her off to see the damage. I then took her to the vet she already had a 105 temperature and he picked her up to look at her tummy she had MASSIVE BITE wounds covering her body some to the bone it look like a pitbull attacked her. well she is in the vet for a min. of 15 days she has gone under twice to be operated on. Well you can amagine my hurt and Anger so I called KELLY at SIMBAS PRIDE KENNEL. She told me sorry she is moving to Oaklahoma. (to set the yorkie market No doubt) and its my problem. I told her to take the dog and refund my money she said to sell her to a family who has no pets or keep her kenneled. Keep her kenneled thats obviously what they do. But she was not taking the dog back it is my problem now. So what to do I cant un leash this york bull on some other poor person . I have never seen any thing so horrible what this dog is capble of, not to mention SIMBAS PRIDE KENNEKL has NO PRIDE. They are a puppy mill,obviously Ive heard more stories about them. Not to mention they are moving to Oklahoma to start up shop there. I am curious of other VICTUMS of SIMBAS PRIDE KENNEL. Whos to know if the puppies she sells are of the blood lines she says they are of. And the off spring of this dog what those puppies are going to turn out like. I seeking out avenues to expose these DISCONCERNING Selfish MONEY HUNGRY team who seem to care nothing about animals or the way they do buisness obiviously Im not the only VICTUM. PLEASE give me some feed back or any other VICTUMS come forth.:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( |
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simbas pride has no pride :mad: After reading all the posts about SIMBAS PRIDE and she telling people she is going to retire which is a lie she is goins to OKLAHOMA to set up therer how can we make sure we get the word out. Also if any members have a puppiey with Shelby as the mother beware that the pit york. I have been in contact with a breeder whom ive become close with and she said the dogs being timid is from being locked up./ Also let me know what legal avenues you took against them as i want to be on the list.:mad: :aimeeyork :mad: :aimeeyork :mad: :aimeeyork |
simbas pride has no pride :mad: After reading all the posts about SIMBAS PRIDE and she telling people she is going to retire which is a lie she is goins to OKLAHOMA to set up there how can we make sure we get the word out. Also if any members have a puppies with Shelby as the mother beware thats the pit york. I have been in contact with a breeder whom has 30 years showing yorkies ive become close with and she said the dogs being timid is from being locked up./ Also let me know what legal avenues you took against them as i want to be on the list.:mad: :aimeeyork :mad: :aimeeyork :mad: :aimeeyork |
simbas pride has no pride thanks for your quick reply as yes no doubt its the up bringing of the dog it seems many of her dogs are shy and timid. they are nothing but money making baby machines to these people. Im just so angry people get away with this to people like us who love and care for our dogs they are a part of our family. This dog is aggrissive frequently however I have been patient but am a fraid what it will continue to do . I have a mother with puppies and I brought her out today and this dog tried to bully her. I cant turn my back. |
http://www.1-800-save-a-pet.com/cgi-...list_type=none here are a list of rescues I really hope all is Ok |
simbas pride has no pride thankyou so much for the address as I am so sorry for this dog as it was the up bringing I as well as some of the other VICTUMS got these adults not poddy trained and scared she brought them to sacramento in their puppy mobile and met every one at a mcdonalds on anelope road so hard to tell any thing about them except her word which is no truth. It apales me to hear she is telling people she is retiring when she is setting up shop in Oklahoma I am filing a report with the BBB Monday. Yes hopefully my little one will be okay the expence is already $2000.00 Im sorry I feel she is some what responsible for the damage But she covers herself well in her contract. What other ways can we expose them or alert Oklahoma .:mad: :aimeeyork |
simbas pride has no pride Please YT members read my story about this puppy mill this forum.:mad: |
simbas pride has no pride i DID JUST START A NEW THREAD ON CALIFORNIA REGIONAL, THANKYOU FOR THE SUGGESTION:animal36 |
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simbas pride has no pride uNFORTUNATLY i DONT KNOW i DOUBT VERY SERIOUSLY SHELL DISCLOSE THAT HOWEVER SHE HAS HER WEB SITE SO I WOULD ASUME SHELL UP DATE IT, WHEN SHE MOVES.:mad: :aimeeyork |
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Wow this kennel sounds terrible :mad: I'm glad you guys are spreading the word out, hopefully others will do a google search before they decide to purchase from there, and this thread will pop up. For those who have bought from them, my heart goes out to you guys. |
simbas pride has no pride I am going to go to that web site and report her there, just an up date on my baby one leg is better but the other has to have more skin cut away and only mustle tissue is exposed. Going to go visit her today:aimeeyork |
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