Beware of www.fondarosa.com Fonda Vandiver
 

First I will give you a little history. This breeder was recommended to me by who I thought was a friend.(not a yorkietalk member by the way)
This third party( not ready to give this name yet) and I had spoke many times. The person is a show breeder, and I had alot of respect for them. If they said something I believed them, they had gained my trust thru many, many conversations and meeting them once at a show. I really felt they had my best interest in mind. I thought this person was my mentor. One day I got a phone call that this person's long time good friend, show breeder of 30+ yrs had two older AKc champion sired females they were willing to release with open registration to a good home. They were offering them to ME and I was completely thrilled!!! This was my oppurtunity to try to improve my dogs outward/cosmetic appearance and this person knew that, because we had talked many times at length about it. I felt I was being entrusted with many yrs of careful breeding. I felt honored. I felt more compelled to do the right thing more then ever.

I asked for the breeder's address to send the deposit money, but my friend told me to send it to their house. And I did, never even questioned it. I had a deposit on the girls for over 2 months. After about a month of sending the deposit I asked for the breeders phone number, I wanted a picture, more info, I was excited.................but my so called friend acted like it was top secret.............and I was still an idiot!
One day I got a phone call from my friend, that the two girls breeder wanted to know when I was picking them up........she wanted to go on vacation. I said I will make arrangements ASAP for the drive ..............and I did. ...........I was told they wouldnt be ready until 2 weeks later but I didnt question it, they wanted them picked up. I felt I was lucky. I stayed local, thought I met my mentor, thought I had met the right people.

Its been over 3 months now, and all I get is a song and dance.......or another excuse.........or another sickness. Or no contact.
I first posted on this in September........see this thread http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...=upset+breeder Im the 13th post down in that thread, this tells of my day there ..........then about a week ago I posted just the breeders name and I would like to apolize for the vagueness of that post...... But now you can read the whole story except the very end.

What would you do?

Kelly,
Did you ever receive your dogs? Or did they just keep your deposit without letting you come pick-up the dogs and finish paying for them?

No we drove several hrs to pick up the girls.

Its not that we didnt recieve our girls its that we have been lied to.

Fishy ordeal
 

Thank you Jessy.:hug:

I know Im not totally blameless in this. Right before we left I was told their was a DNa problem, that would be cleared up quickly. So I had the oppurtunity to hand back the girls and was told my friend knew about it too.
I have found out the problem existed two months before when I sent a deposit also.
I guess after 2 months of waiting and sending a deposit, saving up for the girls, getting a babysitter, my hubby taking off work, driving 4 1/2 hrs, then waiting an additional 4 hrs even after I confirmed it was ok to come at that time, I didnt want to drive 4 1/2 hrs back empty handed. So I was a complete mush melon head.
After waking up the next day with a sinking feeling. I called my friend and asked them "why didnt you tell me there was problem?" Their reply "I didnt think it was my place to tell you"
I didnt even have contact info on the breeder for petes sake. It was like it was a big secret. When I think back on this, hindsight is 20/20.......boy was I dumb!!! Its like I had big blinders on.
Im not looking for sympathy. I just needed to get this off my chest, and hope to prevent this from happening to someone else. I felt I needed to post about this. I probably should have said something earlier........but I just hate this kind of turmoil and finger pointing.
If the finger was being pointed at me for this kind of thing I would be completely devastated and couldnt sleep at night.

oh wow - I can see why you're upset - I would be too -

First I wouldn't have dealt thru someone other than the breeder - that 'friend' sounded like she was brokering them - and 2nd - REPORT the Breeder - she's committing fraud by saying they'll have papers but hold off on the little mishap - that sucks and shouldn't happen - When you spend the kind of money yorkies cost - you should get your papers if that's what you were promised.

and you said she had a herd of dogs ?? that doesn't sound good either - ALL THE BEST TO YOU - I hope you get this resolved but it's a shame there are so many deadbeat breeders out there - They're great when they want your money - but sometimes that's where the relationship ends -

Villette,

Your right as rain. Couldnt deny it if I wanted too. I KNEW BETTER.
Thats what makes it even harder because Im not without fault.
I had good intentions and never even thought as my friend as a broker...but now......that was exactly how it was...
I guess I looked at it as a experienced breeder trying to help me improve. The thought of it being a broker transaction never even entered my mind then.......but it certainly has now.

Kelly, either way this should not have happened. These folks obvioulsy took you for a ride and didn't care about you a bit. For every action there should be a reaction and I am glad you are going to pursue this further.

Good luck, and know that you are blessed!

I don't look at this as your 'fault' at all - you trusted someone & she took advantage of you.

but knowing what you know now & from what you said - she sure sounds like a middleman and probably kept something for herself - and she sure didn't do you any favors judging from that post you did when you went to get the girls - I would have been crying.....that sounds awful to get that pumped and then go thru all that and THEN no papers when that's what you were wanting ? Talk about a bad experience....the upside is ...they're healthy so I guess it could be worse right ??

Hugs to you - I just want to SMACK all the people involved - (not you though LOL ) !!!

I just wish some of these so called breeders would realize our HEARTS are involved with these sales - They see the cash - we see a brand new addition to our lives that we want to love.

I hate situations like this:( . I really hope everything works out for you:)

No Kelly NONE of this is your fault! You had a dream and you thought your mentor was going to help you make it come true. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that!

I will say that I was in the same situation that you were a few years ago. I had purchased a very nice champion sired male for show. I paid for him and brought him home. He was beautiful and I was so excited! After I returned home with him I realized that I did not have his AKC papers and I had been so excited when I arrived to bring him home that I had forgotten about his AKC papers. I called his breeder and she told me at that time she was not 100% sure that the particular male she said was his sire was indeed his sire. That was the beginning of June and it took me until the following end of February to finally receive his papers with the proper sire. Needless to say the male that was suppose to be his sire was NOT!

I pray this works out for you and I am sorry that you have had to endure such heartache. BY the way her daughter is also a breeder in Florida have you tried to contact her about the situation? Just maybe she could help.
Here is the link to her website and I believe her name is Mary Lou.
http://www.jendasyorkies.com/

Thank you for sharing your experience Yorkiekisses. Thats what I dont get about people. Mistakes can happen, thats not the point its owning up to them. Such as in your case, why werent you told that before you took the dog home. ........the only reason I could see is to make the sale and get the money in thier hands.
Thats how I feel about my experience. My friend had many oppurtunities to tell me the situation about the papers. It was all about getting the money. I really hoped when I called the day after picking up the girls they would say IM SO SORRY I didnt know there was a problem but instead I got I didnt feel it was my place to tell you. ARGH!!!!
........And Jessy you are such a wonderful person, wise beyond your years and have a positive uplifting way about you! Thanks I needed that girL!:) ;) Your kindness loyalty and support is like a warm coat in winter.
At the last minute I was told their was a problem with the papers and I chose to take the girls home, but I was also told the problem would be resolved within the month. So that is my fault...........I did have an oppurtunity to stop.........that would have been the wise thing to do.
.......And I wish I could say Yes but they are in good health! I noticed that there was quite a bit of tartar build up on one of the girls teeth, but what I failed to know was fher back teeth were so bad she would come down with a systemic infection from it that made her seriously ill. She had two rochephin shots, blood work, and is just now finishing a round of Baytril anitbiotics to clear the infection, then I have to schedule to have teeth removed they are so bad. You know that poor girl has been in pain. My vet had told me her teeth were going to need some work soon, but I/he didnt realize how bad they were, it wasnt just tartar they are rotten. But on the upside SHE feels better, tons better!!!!!! This has definitely been a valuable learning experience to say the least. I really dont know how this wil turn out and if this sweet girl should ever be bred again.

Kelly, you have a good heart!
 

May God Bless you Kelly for taking such good care of your little girls, I am glad a responsible breeder got the two little girls, I know how heartbreaking it is to be sold a puppy that has bad teeth, puppy's should NOT have bad teeth!!!! Thank the Lord she is in your hands and heart, they are so much more than just a piece of paper. Sadly, when we get these little heart breakers, it is an additional expense, to get them back in shape, I have been there and spent a fourtune on bad puppies from irresponsible breeders, I could have sent them back, got my money back, but i choose to keep them, help them, and make them a member of my family, they have a life time home here filled with love and compassion, I learned a lot of lessons the hard way, and have had my heart broken many times on the condition i have received these puppies in, I will spend every dime i have to help them have a long, healthy, and happy home here! I am a responsible breeder, half of my dogs are my pets and the other half are in my breeding program, I have learned many lessons from these little fur babies and how important it is to have pedigree you can trace back, and be sure you are not breeding any bad genes into your precious little babies that did not ask to come into this world, it is the responsibility of every breeder out their to breed HEALTHY, well adjusted yorkies, that will look like the vission of a yorkie when they get older. I am sooooooooooooooo in love with this breed and will do everything in my power to breed the best yorkies i possibly can and keep the interigty of the yorkshire terrrier alive, filled with the spark of love and compassion they have for their owners, and produce sound, healthy, well adjusted, babies that will give their new forever famileys a lifetime of unconditional love! Good luck with your little girls, they are lucky to have you for their mommy!! God Bless all of You!!!!!!!

Oh Kelly, this is NOT your fault!! These 2 people lied to you. Shame on them! I hope everything works out for the best. Again, I'm so sorry.

JCarlson, thank you so much for being my friend and having the Best intentions. :thumbup: :aimeeyork and believing in me.


I have never thought this was my fault. :dogwalk: :excited: :hearts-en

Do you mind sharing your "friends" name? It would be good for veryone to stay away from. I really don't see why you wouldn't if she tried to cheat you she must be reveal as a shady person.:mad:

I was not mentioning my "friends name" because I purchased a stud from them, I had no problems with the papers and I am pleased with my yorkie boy. After the postive experience, I thoroughly trusted this breeder. THe problem started when I trusted them in a purchase with another breeder and from there it all went downhill.
So I cant grip about my friend or their personal dogs. Because that all went well. I am very pleased with my stud. But for buying a yorkie thru them, as a third party.......I certainly would not advice it.
I really wouldnt advise it ever, with anyone. Not after what happened to me. Its best the actual purchaser talkw with the breeder and does their own research. Live and learn.
The breeder is not a she, he is male. The name is mentioned in this thread, by another poster, if you would like to know it.
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...t=34605&page=2

fondarosa ??
 

can you tell me do you still have these puppies? are they sick? the only reason for me asking this is i also have dealt with fondarosa. she is a real piece of work. some of you may remember my little sallie past away. i purchased her from fonda. she never once told me that sallie was sick until i after i received her. this is fonda from kentucky, correct? anyway sorry to hear that another person has had to deal with her

kelly

I am so very sorry to hear of this. I really wish your post was a recommendation of this breeder. That way I hear something good and gives me a bit of hope of a better outcome.
Kelly ( My name is Kelly too), I did not purchase puppies. My girls are adult dogs and they are alive and happy as I speak. Any health problems right now they have are being addressed. Right now they feel good, and are a couple bouncey stinkers.
Yes this breeder is named Fonda and yes she is from Kentucky. :confused: :embarasse :exclaim:

Kelly,
Did Fonda not guarantee the dog your purchased? I honestly would proceed with either Fonda replacing the puppy that passed away or refunding your money. Some states have what is referred to as "Puppy Lemon Law States", but I do not believe that Kentucky is one of them yet. I am including a link that does give the states and what is required from a breeder. It has maltese in the link, but it includes all dogs and breeders!
http://www.malteseonly.com/lemon.html
I truly am sorry about your puppy.

fonda
 

thanks for the link. she wouldn't refund my money without the autopsy which i didn't get. but that night i received her she went into a coma. i called fonda and she told me that the puppy was hypoglycemic and that she has only done that 2 or 3 times i forget. so my problem with her was that she never told me this so i could decide if i wanted a puppy like this.she did tell me that first night that i could return sallie to her if i pay shipping and if she arrived healthy then she would refund me the price of the puppy. but i could no longer trust this women. well she was 6 months when i purchased her and and she died 6 months after that. she went into a coma. the vet believed it was caused by liver shunt. but couldn't guaruntee me that. they said that a dog that age should have grown out of the hypoglycemia and the fact that i always gave her nutracal.

I'm so sorry for what you have gone through. You are a special person to take on this responsibility after being lied to. I hope that she feels better soon.

Yes Kelly your 6 month old puppy should have grown out of the hypoglycemic stage! I personally have only had two puppies that have ever went through that and they were the runts in their litter. So your puppy went into a coma the night you brought her home? This makes me very angry and I am so sorry that you have had to go through this! I also was going to suggest liver shunt or a liver issue. I purchased a male once that had episodes of low blood sugar and when he was 7 months old he was diagnosised with an external shunt. His acid bile level was over 300! The shunt was fixed and the vet also neutered him at the same time. He is now over 3 years old and as healthy as a horse in a pet home! How long ago was it that you purchased your female? When I place a puppy I send everything with it, including his/her bed! I always send nutri-cal and also what is called Dyne, but I always run a liver profile on my puppies and if the number come back bad, than I run a acid bile test.

Well Fonda of Fondarosa if you are reading this "I hope you sleep well at night!" What you done to Kelly and John is unspeakable!

Do you know who the sire and dam are to the puppy you lost?

Yen feels much better.

fonda
 

thanks! the dams name was happy little song.

I'm so sorry for all you have been through with this breeder. My puppy was bred by Jendas but his Dam is from Fonda. You have my sympathy. My Yorkie was misrepresented by his breeder. It's heartbreaking to think you are getting a healthy dog with a great temperment and end up with a nightmare!
Jessica

So Heartbreaking!!!! So Unfair!!!!!!!
 

Totaly so un fair!! A good breeder would never place a puppy like that, they would keep that baby and give it the care it needs till it dies.

I would think a responsible breeder would never let a puppy like that be sold, it will come back to bite them in the Butt! Are breeders so hard up for money that they will sell anything just to make a few dollars, what about your reputation!!!!!

My heart goes out to you, no one should have to go through what you and Jessica have gone through, a puppy should bring happiness into your lives not tears, worry's and sorrow, not to mention the extra cost of caring for the poor baby!

I sure would stay clear of that breeder and am glad to have all the warnings, hopefully no one else will have to go through that heart ace, and will do all the research necessary, even than you can be fooled, but you know the breeder knows what they are putting out there, makes me sick to my stomach and breaks my heart for anyone that has to go through that with a sick or vicious puppy, that they paid an arm and leg for, you pay are for a perfect little healthy bundle of joy. Again so sorry for both of you!

Donna Jean

I wanted to update you all on this circumstance.
This breeder contacted me and I spoke to the AKC and her kennel name is cleared.
I can get the registration papers on these girls now:)
I was very upset over the situation and it took a long time to resolve. But she was good to her word and she made it right.
And I would like to thank her for that and give credit were credit is due.

You were fortunate. Jen from Ajendas never made good on my Yorkie from her. She ignored the fact that he had two tumours (came with them) removed by my vet from his chin and a biopsy. He failed vet check on my end because of these tumours plus he has nasty temperment. She totally lied to me about this dog who seems to me was abused by his behavoir, she told me it was her fault some garbage about the way she played with him. She sold another nasty one to a friend of YorkieGeorge. I read on YT it was rehomed. I can't rehome mine since he already attacked my Mi-Ki and ripped his throat, second time knocked him unconcious. He now lives alone in a room with a view. I couldn't lie to anyone about a dog like this, he's a nightmare, brings no joy to us only grief. He was from a breeding of Jen's and Fonda's. I think they both are bad breeders. I would never buy another Yorkie that had any of their breeding in their pedigree. I guess you must of had support from some other breeders on here since I read about peer pressure on a post. Lucky it worked out for you.