Breny's Exquisite Babydolls?
 

Can anyone give me any information on this Michigan breeder, previously known as Green's Treasured Yorkies? Thanks.

I think there are a few folks here that got pups from here and have had good experiences. She is a member here as well I believe .

Yes, she is a member here and is well regarded.

Since you are in Michigan, let me tell you who to stay away from: Tanisha Breton / Priceless Yorkie Puppy.

Thanks so much for the heads up. Before finding Breny I had actually contacted her!

I've got to say I'm disappointed Breny has chosen to use the name "babydolls" in her new business venture. I always suggest that someone talk to several members of the YTCA before choosing a breeder. Most of the members of the YTCA are breeding to "better the breed", that means that they do health testing on their breading pairs and know the lines back 5 generations on both sides. Pet breeders are breeding for profit, it's a business for them and when something is a business, you try and find a way to breed for the public and not for the betterment of the breed. Members of the YTCA have been forbidden to use the names babydoll or "teacup" because it suggests that they breed smaller dogs. A breeder should never breed a dog under 5 pounds and this won't ensure breeding a tiny anyway, all it does is put undo stress on mom. Good breeders place smaller Yorkies in pet homes, they don't breed them, so you have a better chance of finding a smaller yorkie with a good breeder. Remember, the standard for Yorkies is "Must not exceed seven pounds", so it's really quiet easy to find a 4 or 5 pound yorkie from a good breeder. (That's the full grown weight, not puppy weight. I wouldn't suggest someone who is young get a 3 pounder, they are usually quite expensive to own because of special needs, allergies, injuries and dental problems. Also, it's best if they aren't ever around children unsupervised.

Please read some of the material in the library before choosing a breeder, just because someone is a member of Yorkietalk and a nice lady, it does not make them a responsible breeder. You have to do your homework and read what makes a good breeder and how are they different from pet breeders. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...e-breeder.html Also, check out the YTCA. Yorkshire Terrier Dog Breeders- Yorkie Puppies

Nancy, as far as I know you're not a breeder and that you're still here telling how to breed and what words we can't use to describe our puppies is, frankly, tiresome!
Brenda is a very experienced breeder with an excellent reputation. Some of us don't buy the YTCA hype declaring themselves the owners of the breed patent!

Nancy isn't a breeder, no...but she is most definitely one of the most passionate people I know who fights against puppy mills and unethical breeding of animals. Puppy Mills etc do use manipulative words to market their pups - words like micro, mini, teacup, babydoll, teddybear ecetera.

So my take on her post is not that she intended to imply she was a breeder who was speaking her mind, but rather as a proponent of mindful and careful breeding as well as careful representation of the breed itself.

I think there are plenty of people who are also disappointed to see/hear that Breny is using "babydoll". However, I believe she has been using this for many years now (or used it, stopped, started again) bc there was an issue about it several years ago and I believe back then she said she was going to take it off the website. Maybe she never did...?

OK, no problem. I'm sorry to see the use of "babydoll" can be disappointing. It sometimes is a very accurate way to describe a puppy. I'm sorry someone in the past misused and turned the word into something dirty.

I think I've explained my website name before. I'm not going to go into personal details here in public , but if anyone would like to know why the name change please feel free to contact me in private ;-).

But it is what it is .... A website name. Yes I breed for an exquisite look that I personally love, which is a small ear and a short nose. Also known as the babydoll face. I do not breed for "tinies" or "teacups". (Although they happen and I do my best to make them thrive no matter what it takes!)

Anyone who is my friend and I've welcomed into my Facebook page knows I'm am open book and share video and photos of my daily life 🤗 I've been breeding for years and am proud of what I produce. Would never think a word in my website name would make me bad. If so - so be it. Lol. My experience and reputation speaks for itself and my many repeat customers who have become my life long friends and family.

Yes this is news to me lol. I will always call mine BabyDolls , if the description fits. 👍👍👍
I think people being a mill and breeding sick pups and brokers bringing in and selling sick pups etc should be what people should be concerned about.

I am proud to say I own a breny baby doll and that is what she is. My Maya is a wonderful well balanced yorkie. I can honestly say that Breny Is a ethical breeder that cares about her dogs. I think that if she wants to call her dogs baby dolls so be it. That's how she feels about her babies. I would get another breny babydoll in a heartbeat.long live the babydoll!!

I, too, am proud to say that one of my babies came from Breny and I could not feel more fortunate to have found her. She is the absolute love of my life and is perfect in every way! We still talk at least weekly and I have had Aleigha for over five years now. She actually chose NOT to breed Aleigha and placed her with a pet home (ME!) instead even though she was right at five lbs- because she was so small. Aleigha was vet checked immediately upon placement and our vet could not say enough positive things about her.

Breny still checks on Aleigha frequently and I simply cannot say enough about her love for her dogs- and her relationship with the families she chooses to place with- after they are carefully selected. It upsets me that someone that doesn't even know her or have one of her dogs would imply something negative about her and her babies due to a website name? Breny has frequently said she purposely does NOT breed for tinies because it is too dangerous. Anyone who actually knows her knows this about her and has heard her say it- and actually practice it- repeatedly.

If you are considering getting a pup from Michigan, in my mind, you cannot go wrong with Breny or with Karen from KP's Parti Time Yorkies. I have one from each and will never- ever- get a pup from anyone else. I am blessed to have their babies in my home (and my heart) and am so fortunate to consider them part of our extended family!

Absolutely second this advice.

I have two "babydolls" from Breny. My Louie is 6 years old and Vinny is 18months. If she wasn't a great breeder, I wouldn't have went back to her for my second. I am beyond pleased with both the temperament and health of my two babies. Also, it was a pleasure dealing with Breny herself! She puts 110% and truly cares about each and every one of her babies. She's a definitely an ethical breeder. She's always available if you ever have questions and loves to keep in touch with her babies families! I don't see all the hoopla with "babydolls". And if you've never purchased a dog from her you shouldn't judge. It was a personal decision to change the name to that. It's just a name and her awesome babies speak for themselves :)

Most of my family is from the south so when they say oh their such a baby doll it means cute, precious ect. so I never really thought it was a bad thing.

I have one of Brenys beautiful baby dolls . Brielle is 6 years old, adorable, healthy and as sweet as can be. Take a look at my posts under breeder reviews. Breny is the only breeder I would buy from.

I have my precious Evie from Breny. Shes an amazing breeder. She cares and is passionate about her breeding. Shes also very knowledgeable about it!

Even after her babies go to their forever homes, shes always checking up on them etc. Shes never been hesitant to answer my questions about yorkies or my little chihuahua (She didnt breed him, but shes helped when he was sick)

Oh how I wish I could get another one of your babies. :D:D:D

My full review is on Brenda's website but I will sum it up here short and sweet! My little girl Jersey came from Breny. She will be 10 this year and actually is the first Yorkie that Brenda had (well not Breny but Meiah/Brody lol). She is the PERFECT little girl!! She's happy and most importantly 100% healthy. I've recommended two other couples to Breny and their pups are happy and healthy. She's an amazing breeder who cares and is passionate about her breeding. Her Facebook group is an open book like she said...we see everything!

Even after her babies go to their forever homes, shes always checking up on them. She even adopted my first yorkie Daisy into her family.

When you get a baby from Brenda, you get a friend for life!!

Of course I’m not a breeder, I only a pet owner who along with my two young children watched our beautiful; purebred dog suffer from inherited problem due to poor breeding practices. When I asked the vet what we could do, he looked at me with tears in HIS eyes, and said, “Damn backyard breeders.” This had a huge impact on me. For a while, I was against all breeders, but then I learned that there are some people who aren’t breeding for profit, but because they truly love the breed. They actually want to do right by the dogs, and won’t sell to just anyone, they want to find great home for their dogs. Many of these breeders belong to the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America. The YTCA is the mother club and yes, I believe a group of breeders who have joined this club does have the most cumulative knowledge about the breed and what’s for it. I had never heard of the YTCA before I joined Yorkietalk, and I assume others are the same, so I tried to teach what I have learned, I’m very grateful the people who have taught me. Here’s the YTCA view on using marketing terminology to sell dogs. http://www.theyorkshireterrierclubof...ocs/Teacup.pdf

Here’s another paper on what makes a responsible breeder. http://www.theyorkshireterrierclubof...LE_BREEDER.pdf

By the way, if I were a breeder, wouldn't that make me a little prejudiced?

Also, I have no knowledge of Breny's dogs, only the fact that I'm disappointed in her choice of names.

At the end of the day whether she uses the word "babydoll" or not, she's an amazing breeder and takes good care of her babies. That's what this thread is about, its not about a stupid word.

Breny also isnt my first experience with a yorkie breeder. I have had a bad experience with another breeder. Thats why I made a point to post my thoughts about Breny here. Ive been on both ends with good and bad breeders.

I purchase my other yorkie, Macie, from a bad breeder. At the time, I didn't do much research on the breeder. I had to put my 11-month-old yorkie down due to under developed organs. There wasn't anything I could do to save her.

Breny was very understanding and helped me deal with the loss of Macie even before I decided to purchase a puppy from her.

I got my first yorkie (Chase) from Breny 7 years ago. Chase was perfect, and Breny was always (and still is) available to answer any questions I had (and as a first time mom I had ALOT!). A year later it was time to give Chase a brother, and my boyfriend and I wouldn't go to anyone but Breny. Calvin fit right into our family just like he was always there. At 6 and 7 years old my boys are very healthy, having only had to deal with 2 or 3 ear infections, and a couple tummy bugs. Their bloodwork has always been great, and I am thankful every day that we were picked to share our lives with these boys <3

I'm sorry if you thought I implied all YTCA breeders are good breeders. It depends why they joined the YTCA, some have joined only to add prestige to their name to sell more pups. However, the club is more than the sum of it's parts, I don't believe that they make up rules willy-nilly, but to protect the breed. Marketing terms should not be used to sell your dogs. So many of you believe that Breny is a good breeder and word of mouth is so powerful, I just wish her name didn't reflect the fact that she might be breeding teacups. I agree with you about doing your homework and knowing what are the red flags, and why certain rules are important.

I believe your statement to be true of many National Breed Clubs. But hopefully we attract and keep those members who have a deep commitment to the breed and a passion for breeding healthy well structured and temperament dogs.

There is a dearth of Yorkies that have been Chic'd last time I checked offa only had partial reports on 178 Yorkies...

Nancy probably does know that not all YTCA breeders represent the top of the breeders - that takes a very long time - to glean the experience - make your mistakes - learn from them - and of course accumulate more knowledge as over the years you go forward. In my mind a great breeder always is learning.

I of course know of Breny from here - and I think baby doll Yorkies is an unfortunate term that in some minds casts a pall. She has had a lot of client happiness from her breedings. But a short nose and small ears is not to the YT standard. Does that mean she does not breed healthy Yorkies? Well no of course not. But of course research on posted health tests for her breeding stock would be at least a reasonable first step.

I never thought of the descriptors baby doll or teddy bear face as implying teacup or mini. I understand that these terms are not official terms and discouraged by the YTCA, but there are discernible differences in faces of the top show Yorkies. Many do have shorter snouts and smaller ear sets, well within standard.

I suppose breeders could use basic adjectives like 'beautiful' to describe their lines' faces, but that is really subjective. My boys have beautiful faces, but they are not baby doll or teddy bear (Don't tell Teddy! :D).

I do cringe when I see "EXTREME baby doll," meaning essentially no snout. Those are almost always from the Asia-based breeders and have a lot of other problems.

I support the breed club, imperfect just like any other entity and its membership may be. I also admire your passionate and informed advocacy for the ethical breeding of dogs.

Maybe there could be a little more leeway with descriptor terms for selling pets? I know that health and temperament should come first, but we can't deny that we have a certain look in mind when we seek a puppy from a breeder.

For instance, there is a fairly wide range of body types among Yorkies in the show ring, cobby vs longer legged. I don't think I have ever seen a breeder advertise longer legged, but they do advertise cobby. I don't think there has ever been any objection to that, although cobby implies smaller.

I thought the trend among show Yorkies has been for a small "bow tie" ear set, and that snouts can vary fairly widely. I've seen snouts of all lengths, shorter and longer in the ring. As long they have a discernible snout. I think even you have commented that judges vary in what they place importance on, a certain type of face vs the perfect gait and coat. Ideally a dog will have it all, but not all champions look exactly alike.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: I agree with Gemy that "babydoll" is an unfortunate term, and that these dogs may not be breed standard. I saw that there are a lot of "Parti" (white with colored patches) yorkies on the website Information - Breny's Exquisite Babydolls , and that's not breed standard either, although they are allowed in the AKC.

Here is info on the Yorkshire Terrier breed standard:

Yorkshire Terriers: The AKC Breed Standard - For Dummies

http://images.akc.org/pdf/breeds/sta...ireTerrier.pdf

That said, it doesn't mean that these dogs aren't healthy. Clearly there are a lot of people satisfied with these dogs. Just be aware that they may not be breed standard, even though you are paying a premium price ($1500 to $3000, according to the website). The OP should do their due diligence with respect to being sure they buy a healthy dog with a good health guarantee. If everything checks out, and this is what you want, then go for it.

Frankly, I'm shocked by this as well, she charges more if they smaller and this perpetuates the nonsense that smaller is better. Every breeder should be helping the breed in some way, and this just hurts the breed.


By the way, baby doll and doll faced are according to the YTCA synonymous with tea-cup. So many people are aware of the bad connotations of teacup, breeders just use these new words. Pet owners can use whatever words they like, breeders shouldn't use these words to market their dogs.

Head: Small and rather flat on top, the skull not too prominent or round, the muzzle not too long,
with the bite neither undershot nor overshot and teeth sound. Either scissors bite or level bite is
acceptable. The nose is black. Eyes are medium in size and not too prominent; dark in color and
sparkling with a sharp, intelligent expression. Eye rims are dark. Ears are small, V-shaped,
carried erect and set not too far apart.

This is what the AKC standard actually says about the head. And here is where interpretation comes into play. Muzzle not too long does not stipulate a *short muzzle* - If the creators of the standard wanted a short muzzle they would have stipulated to have a *short muzzle*

Ears are small- Again how small is small? Obviously should not be like a rabbits ears - but I think that one way to judge are the ears in proportion to the head. When I look at the dog do I only see first the ears? Ear set is pretty important and many Yorkies I have seen in the ring have a natural ear set too wide apart - which is why some exhibitors when doing the top knot pull the ears closer together. They take a small bit of hair from the side of each ear and gather it into the top knot. This can mean the top of the
head is too broad and or the ears are set in too far to the side of the head.

Yorkies are not meant to be broad headed. That is with a wide forehead.

But here is what I absolutely love and that is the statement about General Appearance. This is so very important to any breed standard.

General Appearance: That of a long-haired toy terrier whose blue and tan coat is parted on the face and from the base of the skull to the end of the tail and hangs evenly and quite straight down each side of body. The body is neat, compact and well proportioned. The dog's high head carriage and confident manner should give the appearance of vigor and self-importance.

To me that last sentence says it all about the Yorkie attitude. Vigor and self-importance!!! Yeah in spades is what a well bred Yorkie should have. Think for a minute. You can't have vigor without a healthy structure and a correct temperament. And then they point out the dog should be self confident - again commenting upon the temperament of the dog.

So very much is said in that first paragraph of the breed standard. And how many breeders of Yorkies actually breed for temperament?? Ummm

Personally I love looks of Breny's puppies, call them "Babydolls" or "ducks" I think they are perfect. Are they YTCA standard? Probably not but heck I have a 9lbs girl with floppy ears and a tail docked to short so I am not so worried about standard.

I do know a few people who have Breny puppies, are all healthy well socialized and thriving in their homes.

This is just my opinion, but I tend to go for what I like more than what is standard. My Yorkie is a pet, she is not for show or breeding just a family member so the social aspect is very important to me along with health and the environment in which they are bred (which Breny is very open about).

There have been some very valid points here.

Having lost Troy 3 years ago, I think health of the lines was way more important to me, knowledge/accessibility of the breeder was at the top of the list and I was about 15% concerned with the look of the yorkie as I assumed that I would get a quality yorkie by the way I chose the breeder (if that makes sense).