It's the calling the person out as a lying that's the issue!

Sure I can.

Yes you can it's done a lot!

your name fits you perfectly....love to dream...You are delusional, I never called her a liar, I just said its hearsay...I have nothing else to say to the peanut gallery so go educate yourself! You really have way too much time on your hands! Have a lovely day :)

Well that could be because I am disabled and unable to work so maybe that is why but it could also be that someone saying false things angers me. Your the one who needs to educate yourself!

A reputable Yorkie breeder doesn't let a puppy go to it's new home until it's between 12-16 weeks old depending on size. Can you enlighten me as to how you go about stunting the growth of a Yorkie puppy by starving for 12-16 weeks to keep it from growing at a normal pace so that it can be sold as a tiny version of it's normal self? If that were true wouldn't everyone do it and put the brokers who import korean lines that are inbred and micro tiny and sold to uneducated people who are willing to pay $5-10,000 to get one, out of business?

I was just thinking that!

I think Admin should weigh in on this conversation

We are all adults and this is a public forum and people should be able to speak their minds.

Just saying....two members who just joined in October and December and their first posts are on this thread.....just an observation. I like to use the same tactic I use with my kids.....do not respond :-) but truthfully I'm a lover not a fighter! ! These types of threads are good for people who are researching their breeder though....

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lol, I was just going to post something to this affect.

Hmmm...did anybody read the links to older conversations? Most of the response did seem positive though some of those who were weighing in also had a relatively limited posting history. The person who had negative commentary was the same person who wrote on both threads the exact same thing- of course what she wrote was a very sad story of her Yorkie having a serious hereditary defect, I would be devastated and horrified if I was either the recipient of a dog with that scary issue or the one who bred a dog who had that show up. I wonder if she was contacted and how that was handled and if there was an appropriate contract? I think both sides of commentary should always be regarded and that everything anyone says (anyone, both sides) should be taken with a grain of salt. I would hesitate, especially with such limited background knowledge and a lot of gappy information to jump on any bandwagons but my curiosity is admittedly piqued and I am inclined to do a little more research.

Hi, I'm new here, and I noticed the posts talking about this puppy purchase and Kim's name. I belong to several different Yorkie groups on Facebook, but this is the first Yorkie forum I've ever joined. Anyway, I know Kim Balas, and have known her for 15+ years, as I have purchased three dogs from her. My first was a retired girl, 3-1/2 years old, and I had no idea what I was in for, as I had never had a Yorkie before. I've always had fairly large dogs: a Great Pyrenees, several Boxers, etc. (I am and always have been, an animal lover.) My daughter and her husband are both veterinarians, and since I knew very little about Yorkies, my daughter went with me to Kim's home to check out the girl I hoped to adopt. I say I had no idea what I was in for, because this Yorkie became the love of my life, something I never anticipated. Since that time, 15 years ago, I purchased two more dogs from her, both puppies. The last puppy I purchased is our little girl Sunnie, who just turned three. Over the course of these 15 years, I have been to Kim's home numerous times. My daughter has accompanied me at least 3 of those times. On one visit, she helped microchip many of Kim's Yorkies. My daughter has told me many times that Kim has the best Yorkies she's ever seen ... not "some of the best," but THE best. This is my daughter: Our Doctors I am sorry that Kerryn915 feels as she does, but the Kim Balas she has described is NOT the Kim Balas I have known -- and have known quite well. Her Yorkies are truly part of her home, not kept in one little room in cages. Kim always freely walked my daughter and I through her home so she could show my daughter her Yorkies and acquaint her with her breeding program. Her dogs are healthy, beautiful, and extremely well-socialized! There is absolutely nothing like sitting down and being swarmed all over by 10 or 12 beautiful Yorkies at one time, all vying for love and hugs. I honestly cannot understand why Kerryn915 has chosen to say the things she has said, because the Kim Balas I have come to know genuinely loves and cares for her Yorkies, and the behavior and conditions Kerryn915 has described are in no way even close to what I have EVER observed in ALL the years I have made the 12-hour trek to visit. One last note; my visits were not one-hour-in-then-out type visits. My daughter and I would stay nearby, and our visit with Kim Balas would be over a couple of days. I have known many breeders over the last 30 years of my life, and have visited more breeders' homes than I can count. I have no hesitation whatsoever in recommending Kim Balas to anyone.

I guess afeelinfit has not read the YT rules, name calling is not permitted on this forum. Does she even know she can get banned for this? This is a forum for suggestions, advise, experience and opinions, the OP gave her experience, you and several others gave theirs. It's up to anyone that reads this thread to do their homework if they are looking to buy from this breeder. There is no reason for you to be calling members names. Seems to me this strong defending of your breeder goes beyond her just being "your breeder" and no, I don't want to see your drivers license.

I agree that it is 'interesting' to say the least that she appeared yesterday and has only responded to this thread and that indeed we have seen some 'interesting' situations occur on this site. I am sure though that repeated posting like Taylor's - and Taylor, we all know you are a sweetheart who loves animals and that you have a special spot in your heart to advocate for good breeding practices, especially after all you have been through with Callie- are also against yt rules.

But my primary concern would be that the conflict over these different experiences and opinions will really detract from the main topic of this breeder and his/her dogs. As a relatively educated group I think we are pretty familiar with some 'red flag' behavior- I am going to read her website, I haven't looked yet, I wonder if there is anything there that reflects poorly? Might very well be and honestly it could look like a gem and be a lump of coal and I wouldn't know the truth cause I haven't been there and I don't have one of her dogs. But I think maybe we should do some research - ya know, since the subject has been brought to our attention and we are all loving, caring Yorkie owners and want to be well informed- and maybe leave the conflict part of it in the corner.

I'm thinking it's the breeder too, because just up a ways megansmomma plainly states that there are other Posts on her, here and on Google. And Cudo's to you for standing up for your baby and his predicament as to how he was treated before you got him. My little man suffered from Tracheal collapse until surgery, but it is still collapsing slowly in the chest area. Or at least I hope slowly. Tons of Hugs for your little one.

Response from the breeder
 

Hello, I am Kim Balas, the owner of Mistibleu Yorkies and the breeder that is being discussed in this thread. You can imagine my disappointment when I received news of this thread from a friend of mine. Before I address the specific issues from Kerryn915 I would like to give a little background on myself.
I have been breeding and showing Yorkshire Terriers according to AKC standards for over 15 years now. All my dogs are sold after receiving all of their shots/wormings including the rabies vaccine. They are also neutered/spayed before they leave for their forever home. I prefer to spay/neuter my dogs because it requires a vet with experience in neutering/spaying these small 2 to 3 pound dogs.
Although it was not required by NYS law at the time Kerryn915 adopted Frankie I provided her and as well as every new owner with a health certificate from my veterinarian. My veterinarian would not put his reputation in jeopardy by intentionally issuing a health certificate on a dog/puppy with health issues. The veterinarian spends time with each puppy/dog checking for any structural issues and making sure they don’t have worms, fleas, ear, eyes, nose, mouth or issues. I provide this health certificate and a rabies certificate as well as a shot record on each and every puppy/dog this is for the benefit of new owners and the pet they have adopted as it helps to prevent duplication of treatments.
All my dogs are registered with AKC. My dogs/puppies are raised with me in my home, underfoot. My Home is inspected every two years by AKC as is required. I also receive a copy for my records. In addition, I am required by AKC to keep full written records on my dogs and their litters. All of my records are carefully checked during the AKC inspection. If you were truly told by your veterinarian that your dog was two years old when it was actually only ten months old, perhaps you might want to consider looking for another veterinarian?
Regarding the other statements made by Kerryn915:
All of my puppies/dogs have a bath the same day they go to their new homes without exception. I am sure it was no different for Frankie before Kerryn915 took him home. This being said, I can not see how he could have been dirty. Kerryn915 must have also seen Frankie walking on the floor using all four of his legs without limping or showing any signs of pain. That said if Frankie did in fact have a broken leg when she picked him up he would have been in pain and limping. Why would you accept a dog that is obviously injured? Answer- you wouldn't, furthermore, I would not have been able to get a health certificate from my veterinarian if the puppy/dog had any of the health issues that Kerryn915 has stated in her posts. I would especially like to address the un-socialized issue of which she is accusing me. Let's take a step back and think; new puppy/dog, new home and right off the bat a broken leg... If you stop and think about it what Kerryn915 has described as un-socialized is a puppy/dog in pain and afraid.
I try to ensure as best as I can that my dogs will be cared for and that the new owners are responsible enough to take care of a very small dog, which in most cases, is going to weigh less than 7 pounds. Being small puts these dogs in a special-needs category. They cannot jump up on a couch or chair nor can they jump down from a couch or a chair, or a bed for that matter. They are not the best pet for very young children as they can be dropped or hurt unintentionally. Please try to put yourself in my shoes and imagine how I felt when I received the call from Kerryn915 stating that her Frankie's leg had been broken (and was there something I wasn't telling her?) within hours of Frankie being in her possession. I was upset for my puppy/dog and was angry with myself thinking I had made a mistake in selling the dog to Kerryn915. Yorkies do not break their legs just walking around. Something had to have happened in order to have caused Frankie's leg to break. Once a Yorkie leaves my home, I am no longer in charge of the puppy/dog. At the point that Kerryn915 took possession she became the new owner, and the responsible protector of this puppy/dog. Again, as I was not there I can’t say what series of events took place. I did receive one call from Kerryn915 (only one) regarding Frankie's leg. At that time she was very upset and understandably so. She asked for my advice regarding what she should do stating that money was a issue. At that time I said as a last resort casting was a possible option if she could not afford the surgery. As Frankie was in her care when the leg was broken, I anticipated hearing updates from her and I received none, nor do I recall receiving an x-ray of Frankie's leg. Again, I am not sure how this would change how this would change anything regarding Frankie as his leg was broken after she had taken possession of him. If his leg had been broken as a result of a pre-existing condition as she has suggested I was never provided with any evidence of this. My vet would not have issued a health certificate if he had identified any pre-existing conditions.
In regards Kerryn915 comment on Frankie eating stool, if you do a internet search on “reasons for dogs eating stool”, you will find that there are many suspected reasons for this behavior. I was horrified when I saw this for the first time so I went directly to the vet and he felt that I was feeding a food with too much protein in it and I needed to get a less protein food. I did this and it corrected itself to a degree, but keeping the poop picked up right away was a must and I had to make sure to do this. My dogs are all free fed and they always have food in their bowls.
I have noted that Kerryn915 has made quite a few contradictions in her statements, but it appears that her biggest complaint towards me is that she believes that I should be responsible for paying for Frankie's injury, an injury which occurred after he was in her possession.
As for my website not being up to date, I have recently moved and I had no new puppies to sell. I do not ever push my puppies/dogs out the door before they are ready, after all I helped deliver each of them and they are my responsibility when they are in my care and only I can decide when they are ready for a new home and where that new home and family will be.
If you take the time to read my site you will note that I have to know the home is right for the puppy/dog and it will be a forever home. It takes a lot of time, money and the expertise of a good vet in order for me to place a dog/puppy it is not a money making business, it is however a labor of love and a hobby with the responsibility of breeding the best Yorkshire Terrier that you can.

Interesting how you came to YT yesterday and posts 2 to 15 are all in support of a breeder who has MULTIPLE complain threads on the forum AND you bumped up a thread from July to support your breeder. :confused:

That's great you have 3 yorkies from the breeder but the previous posts by others say they've had experiences quite different than yours.

Kerry your breeder has responded. If you have not looked at the Puppy Lemon Laws for your State I suggest that you do so. I don't recall reading what genetic disease your vet diagnosed, but if there is a vet diagnosis under some State puppy lemon laws you *might* be entitled to some compensation.


Also review your health guarantee that should have been part of your contract of sale, and see if that provides any remedies for you.

I realize I am new to YT, but I remember my first purchase like it was yesterday, being younger, nieve in the puppy purchasing business, I wanted a little baby so bad, I never even thought of reading up, I just assumed puppy breeders were all good people. De Ta De on me. I purchased my baby boy before he was ready, from a person I even knew somewhat, they always seemed so nice and all. I was called when the puppy was 5 weeks old, told he was weened and that I should come pick him up. So I did, he was only 6" long. I knew he was too young to be leaving his momma, so I inquired as to why so young, and their reply was that he was already weened from his momma. I had to bottle feed him for a few more weeks until he could eat soft food on his own. I had a neighbor 2 blocks over from me who also bought a little girl from them. We were talking one day and she mentioned that she had asked how big her baby would get. She said that the lady we both knew, had told her to give her only one fourth of a jar of baby food a day, and when she started eating dry food only feed her very small portions twice a day.
So yes you can starve a puppy into staying smaller than normal. I have asked my Vet at that time and he said yes if a puppy is malnutritioned, as just like with human babies, then their size is definately Altered due to the lack of Vitamins and Minerals they need to develope healthy bone growth and brain, heart and organ development. I decided then that my puppy would have a bowl of food at all times. He would be the size he was meant to be, because I could not fathom starving him to death. He did only get to be 5 pounds, but he was the healthiest little 5 pounder. He lived to be 17 before going to Puppy Heaven 8 years ago.
And as for eating Poop it is most often because they are lacking in some vitamin and nutrients they need. Not always, but most often. Make sure your vet keeps up on your puppies bloodwork just like your doctor does yours with Health Checks twice a year.

I do apologize to afeelinfit for my outspokeness yesterday, one should never put their foot where their mouth is without knowing the facts first and I am sorry for my remark.

@nonnasangels2 - I accept your apology and thank you for the apology. I came on here, yes to defend my breeder/friend. As I said, I purchased three dogs from her and obviously built a relationship with her. My oldest dog is 7 and my youngest 3. It seemed everyone wanted to attack me or accuse me of being her...Why, because I had a great experience with her? And as for me being her friend, I know I have become friends with my hairstylist, my manicurist just to name a few and why wouldn't I be loyal to them if they deserved it?

There are not that many reputable breeders and bad breeders will try to keep the puppy's as small at possible to maximize profit. I don't care if you believe it or not it happens.

Do you know all the issues dogs can have from being spayed to early like before 6 moths. It's also no considered adopting when you are buying a puppy. Many many puppy mills and bad breeders can get a health certificate from a vet claiming the puppy is healthy even when it's not as long as the find a vet that is interested in money more than anything else. You say your puppies all end up under 7 pounds, what are the weights of your breeding females?

No because your first post was on here and you were nasty. You also tried to say things that where false. I also think it's important you know it's against the rules to create multiple user names.

The dog she sold was ten months old. The breed standard says 'to not exceed seven pounds' so if she is breeding for show she should not have offspring that exceeds seven pounds (ideally) not should they be below four pounds so it would make sense why she would be selling older pet quality yorkies who are smaller (or who would be larger) if they were not show standard.

Yes but she says she fixes all dogs before they go to there new homes. Also even show breeders have dogs that exceed 7 pounds. There is no minimum to the standard.

This message is for Kim Balas:

The health certificate that had the wrong date of birth? And you clearly crossed out the signature in front of us and resigned it! We know that a contract is void if altered...very clever! We both know that you we're holding frankie and when I asked if I can put him down you told me that wouldn't be a good idea bc he would hide! That was stupid on my part not to at least see him walking around but I can beat myself up about it all day or move on. I'm sure deep down you know that this particular situation was very sketchy to say the least, and even though you did disclose that he had mild patella issues they are actually confirmed to be way worse that you disclosed and he will be needing surgery to correct that as well. Good for you coming on here and trying to defend yourself. He was dirty, he had a terrible ear infection and his leg may not have been broken but the vet said that there was definitely a pre existing fracture he could see calcification in the X-ray. I would have appreciated more empathy from you since I called you the very next day and you gVe me the worst advice and said to just cast it and that you have had other dogs that have had broken legs and they will heal fine in a cast. How could you give that advice? I'm sure once you saw the X-ray (if you even bothered to look) or showed your vet as you said you were going to do, you would have seen the same thing. The ulna and radius both severed and no way to re establish blood flow to the damaged bones without pins. Which required an orthopedic surgeon and a 6 hr surgery which included taking a bone graft from his little hip to stimulate new cell growth. maybe offering a refund or evan a partial refund would have helped ease the very high cost of the surgery and after care. That's what a reputable breeder would have done. You didn't even offer to take him back (which I would never have done)! Instead you told me that bc I'm close to NYC and not upstate that the vet charges a lot. Thanks I know that but at least I had access to the very best orthopedic surgeon in the whole state of NY and MY little boy has healed perfectly and has full use of his leg. So I will state for one last time that IN MY OPINION and in my situation that you are not a reputable breeder, your puppies are all older that you state, you have no puppy pictures nor pictures of the parents, my dog was filthy, he had a bad ear infection and a pre existing injury that happened while you still had him. You also sent me home with his last round of worming medication in an unsealed syringe and unsealed bag. He was not dropped nor did he leap from a bed. He simply stepped of my 13 year old yorkie's mini couch bed that is maybe 4 inches high! In my opinion he was malnourished due to having to fight over food and that also lead to weakness in his bones. The same reason he used to eat poop! I'm sure that you were nervous that I would seek a lemon law or have to sue for a refund however all my finances were tied up in getting my boy in top health, the very exact condition that you promised me he would already be in! Probably the same reason why you waited so long to respond to a thread that I started in May.

I'm glad your little one is doing better. I did think it was strange this thread was started a while ago and then all of a sudden brought back up and then several posters first post where on here. It definitely doesn't add up for sure.

And again it's just my opinion it was pretty silly for you to drag up an old thread that really wasn't that bad in the first place. It was pretty much hearsay and only had a few views and responses. By you adding all this information and feeding into it makes you seem guilty or like you have to prove a point bc you feel bad maybe. In any case I am entitled to state my experience with you. I noticed that you didn't seem in great health when I came to get the dog and I wasn't looking to drag you through the mud. Thats why it was just a vague post basically telling people to look into it if they are considering buying from you. I accept full responsibility for over looking obvious red flags but I was already emotionally and financially invested in my boy. And he lets me know everyday how appreciative he is in the way he adores me and follows me everywhere. It was a long 12 weeks keeping him off his leg and nursing him back to health and I'm so thankful when I see him running around and playing with his older brother. He knows he's safe and he most certainly knows he's loved.