Thank you so much. Yes, between my health issues and Max's health issues, the breeders unfeeling attitude has been hard on me.

She sent me a scathing e-mail, and I didn't tell my husband, right away, I didn't want to worry him, and when I told him, he said, "Don't answer it. Enough is enough with her. I knew something was stressing you, because you're stumbling again, so I know you're into another MS exacerbation."

I only stumble, when I am really stressed.

I used to fall-but I thank God for my MS Specialist-she prescribed Baclofen for spasticty, even before she diagnosed me, and it has kept me out of a wheelchair. Although, I don't sit up for long periods.

The eye is painful for Max, and now, it appears it has developed in his right eye. The Ophthamologist said it may develop in his right eye.

Thank you for all of your kind words. I am so thankful for you and everyone that is rooting for Max and I.

Thank you so much for your prayers.

(((HUGS)))
Sheila

Max
 

Thank you so much for your replies. I can imagine that you are exhausted, sick, and so frustrated with this breeder. You do not need this extra stress and all the extra effort you have to take in order to care for Max. Has she no feelings for your health if not for the pup?? I wonder how she has survived to be a big wheel in the Yorkie field and do so well so far? Surely you are not alone either in your issues with her pups?? Why don't you try and forget her for a while, get yourself and Max well, and leave it to YTers to try and convince her to do the right thing? Your health cannot take all this aggravation and she does not seem to respond well to any contact you make with her anyway......sad though it is. So, to the breeder once again. Please stop the pain for Max's sick mom and refund the vet and pup costs. She, not you, is taking all the heat for caring for the sick pup that you sold her. This is a big burden for her in health and finances and you should be grateful that it is not your burden! Thank you.

That's all fine and well but very few people that just got a new puppy would want to return it as they are concerned for it and have bonded with it. Would it not be fair to return the purchase price, pay the parasite treatment fee which wouldn't be much but if this is 'dry eye' that is usually noticed by most breeders that something is wrong well before it would be old enough to leave for a new home.
Also a Vet Check with health certificate on a replacement puppy as has been offered, all I can say is shouldnt that be done with any dog or puppy before it goes to a new home?
I started taking any new litter I have to my vet at about 6 weeks of age solely for a vet check and before I take any deposits from anyone wanting a puppy. I don't want a new owner to be looking forward to a puppy they have seen either in person or in pictures only to tell them later puppy has a health issue that my Vet could have warned me about ahead of time that could prevent it going to a new home. Then at 10 weeks I take them back for a vet check again and first vaccinations.

:thumbup:Very nicely put.

Going to be visiting BC in May any chance I can stick one of your puppies in my pocket and sneek it across the border lol. They really are beautiful babies.

Thank you for caring so much. Yes, I am exhausted, my DO examined me on Friday, I've lost more weight, I'm not sleeping well. I sleep a few hours, wake up, and worry about Max.

I wanted to post the e-mail that I recevied from her, since she posted here.

"Wow, Shelia.shame on you! I am so hurt and upset and disappointed.,.My friends told me about your statements on yorkietalk,as I never get on there. I have offered to give you a replacement puppy that has had a health guarantee done by my vet.I even offered a female as a replacement for a male. That is what my contract states. Again I say to you read the contract! As far as the parasites you said he had,I never saw any vet statement or bill? I will pay for his meds if he had these things. My puppies here did not have any of this!I am a good breeder and a Christian, Do you think so little of me? Do you think I would hurt my dogs? Do you think I would spend hours and hours caring for and showing my dogs And importing exspensive dogs to improve my breeding program ?You are spreading slanderous remarks about me and I am shocked and hurt. I told you I made a mistake with the labeling on a picture that's all I am guilty of. You saw the parents in person, what is wrong with you ?Please return Max and I will give you a health certified puppy asap. I will post on yorkietalk in my defense a statement and a copy of my signed contract with you showing what the return policy is. Why don't you post all of this on Yorkietalk???Please enough is enough.I don't want to make your illness worse so lets stop blaming and being angry. Just have your husband bring him home to me and I will send you the little girl."

My husband and I didn't want the little girl, because she is from the same litter, and we know that genetic health issues often don't show up, for two years.

She never once e-mailed us, and asked us how Maxwell was doing, let alone ask us for the Vet statments or bill.
I have not spread slanderous lies. Everything I have posted here in YT is the truth.

Why on earth would I post that Max has Congenital Lacrimal Gland Aplasia, if he didn't have it?

Why would I post that he had yeast infections and Giardia, if he didn't have those things?

All my husband asked of her when she offered to take Max back, was a refund. He acknowledged that he was aware that her contract stated a replacment puppy. He didn't ask her to reinmburse us for the Vet bills.

If she truly didn't want to cause my MS to progress...I think, she would have had enough compassion to want to take Max back, and take care of him. And have the compassion to take the stress of caring for him, from me.

Lorraine-she never offered us a puppy from a different litter. Only the female from the same litter as Max.

We brought Max home, on our 2nd trip, and he was almost 4 months old. We saw the green pus in his eye, the very next morning.

Our Vet did the Schirmer tear test at his 1st appt. and his score was so low, she consulted with an Ophthamolgist at Purdue in West LaFayette, IN.

His left eye is smaller than his right eye.

Our Vet did the Schirmer tear test at his 2nd appt. and his score had not improved.

Now, he has red inflammation is his right eye, so I believe our Vet will do the Schirmer tear test on both eyes at his appt. on Tuesday.

The Ophthamologist told our Vet to make sure we watched his right eye, very closely, as it could develop in his right eye.

My biggest mistake was trusting her words, when we spoke on the phone, before wemade the 1st trip to see the puppies when they were 12 weeks old.

I can't tell you how much I wish we had contacted Lorraine and asked her if she would put us on her waiting list.

K9lover
 

Judy.
I have read through all the posts regarding Max and I have also followed Sheila's past posts regarding the terribly sad loss of her last baby, and the health toll it took on her. She came to you because of your great reputation and high standing in the Yorkie world. You knew her history and health issues and that having a new ( healthy!) pet to love was so important to her health and healing.
She was so happy to have Max and was devastated when the serious eye issues were discovered, as well as the other more minor health problems. This is not what one expects from a breeder with your reputation. These issues were present when you sold her the pup and would not suddenly appear out of nowhere. I do understand that your contract is legally valid and perhaps if the circumstances were less emotional and complex here, you would have every legal right to strictly enforce the contract. However Sheila had already bonded with Max and spent considerable mental effort and funds on addressing the health issues that Max had. She would not want to give him back and risk another pup with issues. Also if you took him back, what would befall him?? Hopefully you would not put him to sleep, but then you would have to put in all the effort and funds to treat him. Would you have the time to do this with your breeding program?? You should be grateful that Sheila is prepared to care for this sick dog and relieve you of the considerable burden.
All this mental anguish is making Sheila sick again and also making it harder to care for Max, but she soldiers on as she loves Max and is an excellent pet mom.
So I beseech you on her behalf, as she is so weary of all this, to please make an exception to your contract and refund the costs of the pup and vet bills. This is a special case and you do have to accept that the contract would usually assume the dog was perfect when handed over to a new mom. Max was not! All the pain on both sides would be relieved if you would be compassionate and do the right thing. Trust me, you will only gain in stature if you do this as it is the right thing to do. Remember the law can be cruel sometimes and unfair, but this case involves the lives of Sheila and Max, two living beings! Sheila is left with a dog that will probably need constant care over its life and the least you can morally do is take away the frustration of all this and help with finances.
I want you to know that Sheila has no hand in this post, it is my decision to write this as I feel for her and her sad situation. I thank you for listening and I pray you will be able to help Sheila out and end all this on a happy note.

Gemy-she is a member of the YTCA-I remembered last night, I had checked, before I e-mailed her.

My cognitive dysfunction has been severely affected since Maxwell's diagnosis. So, my thinking is very slowed.

Gemy-have I ever told you that you are a true GEM???

I hesitated before I posted my review, but now, I am so glad I posted it.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
I do this also...newborn health check at 36-72 hours old, again at 4 weeks old, andagain at 10 weeks old. Each baby is again given a clean bill of health within 24-36 hours before the baby is picked up by new owner. There is NO excuse for a puppy to be sent to a new owner, sick. The price you charge for your babies should guarantee that.

Oh, how I wish I had known you before I posted my review. I would so very happily have asked you to put me on your waiting list for a puppy.

I am beyond worried about Maxwell today. His right eye is red with inflammation.

How is this tiny boy going to survive surgery on both his eyes???? :cry:

It's just devastating to read about little Max's health problems. I just can't imagine. I hope this surgery can help him to live a normal life after. It sounds like it has to be so rough for him at his age. :(

I just can't imagine if it was Cookie dealing with this, having to put her through a surgery like that at such a young age. I still remember how rough it was on Minnie when we she had to get cut to remove a large growth, and she was a twelve pound adult. I'm happy for Max though, in that he is with you guys who sound like his only chance.

I couldn't imagine returning a puppy. I mean I was in love the very second I saw my girl both times (Minnie and Cookie), so that's just terrible that's the contract offered. I mean there is no way I'm going to send someone I love on a one-way ticket to the pound and likely euthanasia, which is what I expect when I see a "guarantee" like that which requires return of the pup.

Are you putting any medication in the "unaffected" eye, while it is still just red? I would certainly ask about doing that if the vet is not already doing so. I am hoping this breeder comes to her good senses and if for no other reason, realizes what her best BUSINESS move would be. Forget the poor little puppy, forget the distressed new owners, forget what is right ethically.....just hope she does what is right for her business......it will cost her a lot less in the long run.

Max
 

Thank you for your post, most here feel the same. But we are praying that this will be put right and that baby Max can be treated and get well soon. He deserves a healthy and happy life and Sheila will do all she can to ensure this.
Don't know what the icon next to Max is, I don't know how it got there!

To the OP
 

What response did you receive when you sent all the veterinary documentation on your puppy to the breeder?

Is Dry Eye inherited and if so how?
 

Keratoconjunctivitis sicca (KCS) - "dry eye" | Canine Inherited Disorders Database | University of Prince Edward Island

This link from PEI university outlines the answer to above.

Not yet. We are keeping it clean with Collyrium. Maxwell has an appt. with our Vet on Tuesday morning, and she will check his right eye then. I believe she will do the Schirmer tear test in both eyes now, instead of just the left eye.

The Ophthalmologist had told her to tell us to pay close attention to his right eye, because the Congenital Lacrimal Gland Aplasia may yet develop in his right eye. I fear it has done so.

I agree, I wish this breeder would come to her good senses. I wish she cared about Maxwell. I wish she actually cared about me, as well, the way she said she did in so many, many e-mails and in the very 1st call I made to her, and the two trips we made down to Lanesville, IN.

Valerie-On October 31st, Judy sent my husband, Rich, this e-mail: "I am so sorry. I would never hurt anyone as sweet as Shelia. My breeder friends and vet friends seem to think that the drops need to be used for a long period before giving up and doing a surgery. I agree Sometimes the body can fix itself with time I hope that is the case here... If he comes back to me that what I will do, take care Judy"

I was confined to bed, and he came and sat and talked to me. He said, "Babe, your MS is progressing due to all the stress of worrying about Max. Your medication for the Lymphocytic Colitis has stopped working, and the doctor told us, it was the last medication he could prescribe. (I've been on the Mayo Clinic protocol for almost a year.) So you know that means surgery after we see the G.I. Doc in December, so maybe it would be best to let Judy have him back. She said she will continue the drops, and take care of him".

I cried at the very thought of returning him, but I also saw the worry in my husbands eyes. My G.I. Doc had talked to us at my September appt. and told us, to see our attorney and have a Living Trust and DNR in place.

So, I said, "If you feel that is what is best".


At that time, I still so much wanted to believe that Judy really didn't know he had this condition.

So, he replied to her e-mail and said he would bring Maxwell back, but he needed to make arrangements for my two girlfriends to stay with me, and he would need to make it a round trip in one day. Because I needed to be lifted out of bed, and even though I weigh 75#s at 5'2, he didn't want them to get hurt, and he didn't want me to get hurt. And he said, he realized that her contract stated replacement puppy, but he asked her to give us a refund. He didn't ask her to reimburse us for his medical bills, which, at that time were around $250.00.


At that point, we were willing to let the fact that she lied about the Dam and lied that she imported Treasure, slide.


She wrote him a nasty e-mail and said, "You know I am very disappointed . I have a contract for a reason. You knew that when you bought Max. I really like Shelia and I am sorry for her illness. I have mailed AKC papers to you and the ownership can't be changed until you register him and then return the papers to me. I never give papers on a puppy until they are spayed or neutered but I did it for Shelia . You have told me I did not send the real picture of Treasure which you saw her when you were here! Basically you have called me a liar. Now you want a refund, not a replacement puppy? I still have the tiny female and 1 other small male. I will let you have either one of them . I will take Max back but by my contracts terms. I am sorry but that is all I will do .if I had known he had any problems at all I would of never offered him to you. If you want to return him let me know what day so someone is here."



After that e-mail, and the scathing e-mail she sent me, she can forget it.


We will file a complaint with YTCA & AKC. (I am so glad her friend here in YT told her about my review, because last night, I remembered I had checked the YTCA breeder referral list, before I contacted her, and she is a member.)


Maxwell has his 3rd appt. with our Vet on Tuesday, and it appears that the Congenital Lacrimal Gland Aplasia has developed in his right eye. Yesterday morning, when I cleaned his eyes, to put the Tacrolimus drops in his left eye, I saw that his right eye was red with inflammation. The Ophthalmologist had told our Vet to tell us to pay close attention to his right eye, because it may yet develop in his right eye.


So, at his appt. I believe our Vet will do the Schirmer tear test in both eyes. I am terrified at the thought of this tiny boy having surgery, because it is not without problems, after.

I pray so hard that there is some tissue that the Tacrolimus drops will stimulate tear production, but we are seeing what appears to be white pus in his left eye.

The breeder has never so much as asked us how Maxwell is doing, let alone asked for the veterinary documentation.

We've exchanged many, many e-mails with her.

Dot-I suspect the only way this is going to be put right is after we file the claims with YTCA and AKC.

And we are only waiting until our Vet does the Schirmer tear tests on Tuesday.

Maybe the birthday cake icon appeared, as an omen that Maxwell will celebrate his 1st birthday.

Gemy-I *think* from what other breeders have posted about dry eye, if Maxwell's breeder had treated him for dry eye, maybe his left eye wouldn't have developed such a severe bacterial infection.

Still-the Ophthalmologist said Maxwell has Congenital Lacrimal Gland Aplasia, but at least, maybe he wouldn't have suffered with the infection.

Max
 

I sincerely hope it does not come to that as it would be so much easier for all to settle now. If you do have to do this it is a good idea to await the test results and then you have the certain facts to present. I still pray that she has a heart and will negotiate a suitable settlement with you. All this bad publicity cannot be good for her either. Bad news travels far and fast!!
So it was a birthday icon?? Perhaps it is a good omen, hope so.

Maybe you should have your vet email them to her and to her vet. Maybe a consult between the two vets are in order.

Dot-I agree with you, it would be easier on all of us to settle now. And we will wait for the tests on Tuesday, before we file our complaints.

So far, we have heard nothing from the breeder.

Yes, it is a birthday icon, so I hope, too that is is a good omen.

My husband plans to send her copies of all of Maxwell's tests and results, even though we have heard nothing from her.

I have not been on here in some months....I am so very sorry you and Max are going through this....I sit here in tears reading this. Sheila I pray for you and Max to get well and some much needed relief....
A show breeder....well to that I say....I cant say what I really want to say....this is awful...I knew there were uncaring people in the world, but this person is beyond words, I will never understand how someone can watch a little one suffer with whatever ailments...if one of mine sneezes im off to the vet...this breeder reneged on her responsibility to the babies she brought into the world...what would become of him if he is returned to her...I personally believe nothing that comes out of her mouth, based on this thread. JMO.
Sheila take care of yourself, you and Max need each other. (((HUGGZZ)))