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Teegy 06-19-2012 06:38 AM
Each time you post lynzy you go up and up in my estimation and the fact that you just called a truce and cleared up any misunderstanding makes me like you more.
I agree with Kazzy and Gracie and lynzy and I think it was just mad for mills that got a little too preachy on Kazzy that lead to a bit of misinterpretation.

It's true there are some passionate souls out there, about their diet about their religion about their work with animals about the environment and it's great to have such passion but never presume to be 100% right, I'm the only person who is 100% right ahahahahah
and it's not right to slam the rest of us.
This forum is indeed full of many differing opinions and although I don't mind a little drama in my day, I don't want people falling out over passions and opinions.

DBlain 06-19-2012 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by gracielove (Post 3950577)
I think this forum is based on opinion. Many have differing opinions but I would not fault anyone here for being too opinionated. We have dedicated people on both sides of this issue. Anyone who has watched a dog or puppy from a puppy mill suffer has every right to express strong feelings about the issue and everyone who is a dedicated breeder has every right to support what they are doing. I don't see why there needs to be name calling and bad feelings on either side here. I hope everyone is involved in what they are doing for the sake of innocent animals.
I haven't seen anyone forcing or pressuring anyone to take someone else's cast offs and I don't think that is anyone's opinion here. Adopting from a shelter or rescue is an honorable thing to do but I'm sure anyone who works in rescue would be the first to tell you it is not for everyone. They want the dogs that do find homes to go to a good forever home otherwise they are wasting their time.
It just amazes me that someone would be so insulted by someone who works to rescue animals, both purebred and mixed. Step back and take a look here. You are all for the same thing in principle.
As for the people who buy from pet stores and puppy mills..... they learn a high priced lesson and the ones who have lost adorable little babies suffer for it for many years. If rescue and purebred breeders could get together and work united against puppy mills they would be an effective force. We are not going to stop this abuse by saying mean things about each other or the puppy mills.
you are exactly right everyone is entitled to their opinion so that is why I could not believe someone was being asked to reconsider their opinion, and especially by someone that has strong opinions of their own.

lynzy420 06-19-2012 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DBlain (Post 3950626)
you are exactly right everyone is entitled to their opinion so that is why I could not believe someone was being asked to reconsider their opinion, and especially by someone that has strong opinions of their own.
DBlain, I did not ask her to reconsider her opinion, not once; rather, the tone is what I was referring to - hence " Kazzy, I don't think you mean much of this the way it *sounds*. I clarified that more than once, it was the way I *heard* it.

Don't misinterpret my words, please.

gracielove 06-19-2012 07:23 AM
I suppose it is everyone's right to remain offended if that is what they prefer.

DBlain 06-19-2012 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by lynzy420 (Post 3950664)
DBlain, I did not ask her to reconsider her opinion, not once; rather, the tone is what I was referring to - hence " Kazzy, I don't think you mean much of this the way it *sounds*. I clarified that more than once, it was the way I *heard* it.

Don't misinterpret my words, please.

This is an internet fourm where things are typed by people you often don't know, all I know is I read you asking someone to reconsider their post, and there it is in black and white

"Please reconsider what you have posted here. Much of what you have posted is a slap in the face to the people on "

I would venture to say that while we all agree about the same thing, we might all say it differntly and that's the point I am trying to make.

lynzy420 06-19-2012 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DBlain (Post 3950718)
This is an internet fourm where things are typed by people you often don't know, all I know is I read you asking someone to reconsider their post, and there it is in black and white

"Please reconsider what you have posted here. Much of what you have posted is a slap in the face to the people on "

I would venture to say that while we all agree about the same thing, we might all say it differntly and that's the point I am trying to make.
DBlain anyone can disect a statement and make it to *sound* other than what its context was meant to be...The intro to my statement was the crux of my statement, as I have now explained several times. Don't know why your continuing this and I believe I clarified it already. Not sure what else I can say.

chachi 06-19-2012 08:40 AM
There is nothing wrong with being opinionated and I have found those that are the most opinionated speak with the most truth and dont mealy mousing around an issue.
with that though I did agree with Kassy that no one should be made to feel bad because they dont rescue. Its a individual cholce and a individual decision

concretegurl 06-19-2012 09:09 AM
I'm so glad everyone made up and still hold their own opinions.
There's no point or progress in thoae here fighting amongst themselves especially when those slightly bickering are the sort offering wonderful forever homes for thw furkids they adopted either via rescue or paid in full.
I think if you got a pup forever ni matter what, you adopted, period.

KazzyK810 06-19-2012 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by lynzy420 (Post 3950574)
Kazzy, I had hoped you of all people understood my posts...ovbiously I rethought my initial statement and clarified myself in the second post. It was the tone that I heard and took exception to the word Zealots in the context it was said...I for one am not a Zealot but I am grateful we have some of those extremists out there, they are the ones who drive their points home and have the tenaciousness that few of us have. They are the people who open the cages and set lab animals free, they are the people who are able to get the politicians to hear and act, everyday they tirelessly seek to help our animals, those we can see and those we pretend we don't see....I felt your post on first glance lumped all the rescuers and "zealots" together...since that is mainly what we see on YT.

I'm sorry if I offended you.
Apology warmly accepted. I'm not offended by you personally at all :). I completely understand & respect your advocacy for the abandoned/mistreated/castoff dogs that have no voice. If you look back, you'll see my post that you then commented on was directed at Madpuppymills comments to Yorkiemom1.


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Originally Posted by gracielove (Post 3950577)
I haven't seen anyone forcing or pressuring anyone to take someone else's cast offs and I don't think that is anyone's opinion here.
Actually, that was exactly the attitude that I responded to...

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Originally Posted by madpuppymills (Post 3945301)
Yorkimom1 - I won't argue with you about the responsibilities of buyers versus breeders. But will just say that for every puppy born to one of your "breeding stock", a perfectly healthy and loving dog is put to death.
The implication is that ANY breeder that breeds a puppy (& any person that buys rather than rescues) is somehow implicated in another dog being put to death. This attitude of rescue or you're a dog killer...is what gets me riled up....as you may have noticed :D

:ghug:

lynzy420 06-19-2012 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by KazzyK810 (Post 3950817)
Apology warmly accepted. I'm not offended by you personally at all :). I completely understand & respect your advocacy for the abandoned/mistreated/castoff dogs that have no voice. If you look back, you'll see my post that you then commented on was directed at Madpuppymills comments to Yorkiemom1.




Actually, that was exactly the attitude that I responded to...



The implication is that ANY breeder that breeds a puppy (& any person that buys rather than rescues) is somehow implicated in another dog being put to death. This attitude of rescue or you're a dog killer...is what gets me riled up....as you may have noticed :D

:ghug:

Awww, thank you!:)

msyorktown 06-19-2012 11:59 AM
Whew...I'm sooo glad everyone is friends again!!:D

madpuppymills 06-20-2012 08:08 AM
The implication is that ANY breeder that breeds a puppy (& any person that buys rather than rescues) is somehow implicated in another dog being put to death. This attitude of rescue or you're a dog killer...is what gets me riled up....as you may have noticed :D

:ghug:[/QUOTE]

It's not an implication, it's a fact. Good breeder/bad breeder/backyard breeder - for every dog bred and sold, one is killed in a shelter. You may not like how it sounds, but it's a fact.

lynzy420 06-20-2012 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by madpuppymills (Post 3951598)
The implication is that ANY breeder that breeds a puppy (& any person that buys rather than rescues) is somehow implicated in another dog being put to death. This attitude of rescue or you're a dog killer...is what gets me riled up....as you may have noticed :D

:ghug:
It's not an implication, it's a fact. Good breeder/bad breeder/backyard breeder - for every dog bred and sold, one is killed in a shelter. You may not like how it sounds, but it's a fact.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for sharing your facts and your views on this matter, YT is such a wonderful place for allowing us to do so. Thank you for respecting everyone elses views as well, even if they are not your own.

The fact is, everyone has been educated on both sides now, gratefully we are able to consider the information and apply it whichever way we feel!!!

Finally, I applaud your efforts and wish you much success in helping all the animals, I do support your cause - not because I believe or agree with all of your views, but because I understand, accept and respect you and your beliefs and views.

Teegy 06-20-2012 08:20 AM
well that isn't our fault is it, so go get the legislature changed to prevent puppy mills and backyard breeders jailed and stopped, you should require some kind of livestock licence with strict federal and breed guidelines.
Don't be pointing scrawny fingers at the people on here, if it wasn't for good breeders we wouldn't have awesome information for health and diet maintenance and general care for our breed specific dogs who get fixed to prevent unwanted pregnancy which fill rescues and shelters with unwanted dogs.
You wouldn't have a job if it wasn't for people and their discarding of their pets.

Again preaching to the wrong choir on here, go moan at someone who abuse the privilege of owning a pet.

Go use your angst and energy and get TB shut down.

BiewerYorkie 06-20-2012 08:24 AM
We were going to rescue an adult dog this time but ended up buying a puppy. We were looking for a particular breed and any of the rescues we went to gave us nothing but hassles and wouldn't work with us because we didn't have a fenced yard.

After much frustration, we bought a puppy. Some of these rescues would rather keep a dog in foster care FOREVER than break a "rule" like no adoption for a under 10 pound dog if you don't have a fenced yard.

Louise


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