Originally Posted by jrsygal37 (Post 3390039)

Hi. Not worried about the $200. I've gone into $523 as it is, so another $200 isn't going to break me. I had only said that she has improved dramatically in the past two days. Playing, eating and not acting sick in any way except for the nose this morning. I did call the vet right away. He said that there is a test that is fairly new, where they swab the mucis from the back of her throat and her eyes and then send it into the lab. We have been in contact just about daily, other then yesterday. He calls everyday and I've had her back for check ups about four times in the ten day period plus the intial exam so that would be five times. What he said was AND, this is to answer Nancy too. What he said was that it could be that because she was so congested that it is finally coming out of her and it is doing that by discharging through the nose. She is not coughing nearly as much, just she woke up with crap out of her nose, like a kid with a cold. He suggested bringing her back on Thursday morning, so we can take it from there. See IF the nose is clear by then and of course if it is worse tomorrow I'd bring her right in, but if it is not then she is scheduled for Thursday in which she will then have the swab done if it hasn't changed any. I would never let me dogs go without medical or anything else. I would do without first. I did call and ask about the decongestant. I am able to use a little plain saline just a drop in the nose and that will help to flush out whatever crap may be in there. It is non medicated, just simple saline. He said they use that on infants quite often because when they are sick it helps to clear the airways. I will not skimp on her. I'll have done whatever is needed, I just posted here because I felt that it does not hurt to ask others who may have had this experience and maybe their vets told them something different or maybe they know a remedy they've used etc. For example someone suggested Temural (may be spelling it wrong) they said it knocked it right out of their baby. Well, today I asked my vet about it but he said that is not an antibiotic and asked if I was refering to and he said another name. I forget what it was, but I do when people say things that they have used or experiences they've had I do ask the vet because I feel that MANY heads are sometimes better then just one. So I thank everyone for their input.

Elaine

Originally Posted by hartygirl (Post 3390034)

Sorry, I'm a little on the defensive as you can see. I'm not so good at taking my own medicine sometimes and I have a very hard time dealing with people that perpetuate the suffering of innocent animals, then I just can't shut my mouth.

Originally Posted by peanut (Post 3390067)

did the breeder vaccinate the puppy at all before you got her?

Originally Posted by jrsygal37 (Post 3390088)

Yes. She was according the shot records up to date on her shots. Her next round was due I think a few days after the purchase date. E.

Originally Posted by jrsygal37 (Post 3390080)

Harty Girl. First of all, I made the mistake of believing and trusting and have admitted this. I have already explained on here that it took three years for this woman to gain my trust. For years I'd advocated NOT to buy from her because she brokered and you do not know how the parents are being treated of those pups she has. It was ONLY AFTER she stated that she started her own breeding program and this was three years later of having conversatios with her, did I buy a dog from her.

I also paid a few visits to her and her place was immaculate. As far as Glenda goes, I was told by Susan that Brooklyn was a stud fee puppy. I ASSUMED "Susan's" stud fee puppy, which was not the case. Glenda and Susan work back and forth together with pups and studding and they even co-own a dog together. I had many conversation with Glenda and really liked her.

I have rescues. I work in rescue and I would NEVER intentionally add to the problem. I trusted them both. There were no issues with Brooklyn when I got her other then a cough which Susan said was from the kennel cough vaccine. She was not sick like Mia. AND, almost two years later she is perfect and healthy. I had not reason to believe Mia wouldn't be too. AND, I would never buy from someone who gets pups from mills etc. I ONLY found out through a third party that she still does broker pups not only from Glenda but other places too. If I had known this I would never have dealt with her even IF the pups were fine because I DO NOT ADVOCATE buying from people that support commercial kennels or puppy mills. Believe me when I say ALL of this, not just my experience is being dealt with and that's really all I can say other then I made a mistake.

I do not blame you for saying what you have said about me. It is something I would say to someone too because I believe as you do. I've said many times it's a vicious cycle and if you buy a dog from a pet shop it only opens the cage for another. It's the same as buying from a bad breeder. Believe me when I say I did trust and I got taken with that. IT won't happen again and I will make it right. Elaine

Originally Posted by jrsygal37 (Post 3390039)

someone suggested Temural (may be spelling it wrong) they said it knocked it right out of their baby. Well, today I asked my vet about it but he said that is not an antibiotic and asked if I was refering to and he said another name.

Elaine

Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3390108)

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What I had suggested you ask your vet about is Temaril P. Yes, it's not an antibiotic but did work on my pup when antibiotics didn't. My pup was sick for over 3 weeks before the vet prescribed it.

This is some info on it.....

"Temaril-P® is effective in treating canine coughing, including tracheobronchitis-also known as kennel cough. It may also be used to treat coughs due to allergies and other conditions, except those related to the heart.

Temaril-P® is also adjunctive therapy for chronic or acute bacterial infections, when the infection is being controlled by antibiotics or chemotherapy."

From this link... What is Temaril-p?

My vet was concerned about letting a developing pup go sick for so long. I suggested you ask your vet about it as it may not come to mind to prescribe it since it isn't an antibiotic. Of course, you have to go with your vet on what medications are prescribed. The boiled chicken w/ celery I mentioned earlier I can safely recommend (no prescription needed) :).

Hope Mia continues to improve.

Originally Posted by peanut (Post 3390093)

How many shots did the breeder give her before you got her

Originally Posted by jrsygal37 (Post 3390080)

Harty Girl. First of all, I made the mistake of believing and trusting and have admitted this. I have already explained on here that it took three years for this woman to gain my trust. For years I'd advocated NOT to buy from her because she brokered and you do not know how the parents are being treated of those pups she has. It was ONLY AFTER she stated that she started her own breeding program and this was three years later of having conversatios with her, did I buy a dog from her.

I also paid a few visits to her and her place was immaculate. As far as Glenda goes, I was told by Susan that Brooklyn was a stud fee puppy. I ASSUMED "Susan's" stud fee puppy, which was not the case. Glenda and Susan work back and forth together with pups and studding and they even co-own a dog together. I had many conversation with Glenda and really liked her.

I have rescues. I work in rescue and I would NEVER intentionally add to the problem. I trusted them both. There were no issues with Brooklyn when I got her other then a cough which Susan said was from the kennel cough vaccine. She was not sick like Mia. AND, almost two years later she is perfect and healthy. I had not reason to believe Mia wouldn't be too. AND, I would never buy from someone who gets pups from mills etc. I ONLY found out through a third party that she still does broker pups not only from Glenda but other places too. If I had known this I would never have dealt with her even IF the pups were fine because I DO NOT ADVOCATE buying from people that support commercial kennels or puppy mills. Believe me when I say ALL of this, not just my experience is being dealt with and that's really all I can say other then I made a mistake.

I do not blame you for saying what you have said about me. It is something I would say to someone too because I believe as you do. I've said many times it's a vicious cycle and if you buy a dog from a pet shop it only opens the cage for another. It's the same as buying from a bad breeder. Believe me when I say I did trust and I got taken with that. IT won't happen again and I will make it right. Elaine

Originally Posted by kjc (Post 3390141)

Clear mucous from the nose is okay.... any tint or color or cloudiness to it she will need antibiotics, again. A runny nose in a young pup can quickly turn into pneumonia. If it turns cloudy or white, get her on ABs ASAP... you won't have time for that new test to be run...


RE: Rabies Vaccine: Given according to state law, usually required at 6 months, some as early as 4 months. None earlier that I know of.

Originally Posted by kpstoybox (Post 3390158)

Michigan is 12 weeks.

Originally Posted by hartygirl (Post 3390139)

Elaine,

I know you feel as I do, that's why I was pretty shocked to read this thread today. I am very sorry if I hit below the belt and said some ugly things. People shock me every day with what they are willing to do to make or save a buck.
I respect you saying that you'll make it right and I certainly hope you can. I wish that those 2 are called what they are and that they reconsider their so called program and call it quits.

Best of luck to you and Mia, I'll keep watching for updates on her.

Originally Posted by YorkieChick1 (Post 3391602)

Whoa, this is a long thread........and I read it all and all I have to say is. I hope Mia continues to improve and I hope the authorities take care of these 2 women and put them out of business.