This is the second time she has bought from them.
I want people to feel sorry for the dogs suffering because of breeders, like the ones she used twice, not to feel sorry for the people that buy from them... that knew better.

Then you should be feeling sorry for her pup too because it was sick. I personally DO feel sorry for her because no one wants their baby to be sick.

Sure it was the second time she bought from them and yes there were red flags and she should have made a different choice, but what is done is done and now we're trying to help her through this hard time for her baby. That still does not constitute putting the weight of ALL their bad practices on her shoulders. That burden is theirs to carry. She obviously feels guilty for her part in it and is now warning others. Personally, I think we should be focusing on her baby. Know anything about sniffles in dogs?

I think you took my quote from your original post to literally, I simply highlighted the portion to use it as a generic statement, I did not disagree with your entire posting.

I do feel that she is to blame for the sickness of pups coming from Millers and BYBers, anyone that purchases a pup from one is responsible for the suffering of innocent dogs. I made my first purchase of a yorkie from a Byber and have learned from that experience, she (my dog) led me here to YT where I learned from people THE OP INCLUDED the right way to go about helping to end PyppyMills and Back Yard Breeders. I was inspired by people like her to go into rescue and educating people about PuppyMills and BYBers and actually, I at one time was responsible for the continued suffering by buying my dog, but you can bet I didn't EVER do it again.

She knew better and I am deeply saddened that this was the course of action she chose to find a dog for her home. It is one thing to not know what you are getting int, it is VERY hard to do diligent research on a breeder, but someone with the knowledge and resources that knew better gets no sympathy from me. Mia does, she is just an angel caught up in this mess.

My apologies for copying your original post, I was simply trying to use it as a general statement.

I don't know anything about sniffles in dogs, I don't buy dogs from Byb'ers more than once.

Is the snotty nose clear or colored? If it's white/yellow/green then it is indicative of another infection and needs to be evaluated.

Just wondering how that shows any sympathy towards the sick dog?

It is not intended to, it is meant to answer a question posted to me previously.

I show sympathy to sick dogs by donating my time and money to their recovery and by helping educate those that will learn about ways to end suffering of innocent animals and also by continuing my education about said matters and never giving up or giving in.

Ok, gottcha. You wanted to get another dig in at the OP.

This statement from you is what confused me:

Well I gave my opinions on the sniffles already, so I'm out as this is no longer constructive to the poor pup.

To the OP: Hang in there and take care of your little one I'm sure she will be 100% in no time. Continue to heed the advice given to you about her illness here and especially from your vet. Don't mind anything else.

I feel sympathy for both you and your pup. Thank you for acknowledging your mistake and being brave enough to expose yourself to this. It has been a learning experience for many I'm sure.

The puppy was 1.1 lbs when she took it to the vet and it got all those vaccines plus rabies. I would find out from the vet if the distemper vaccine was the modified live or the recombinant format.
With the nose discharge one cannot rule out that the vaccine could have caused distemper depending on which vaccine was give.

If you are confused by my statement than I assume you are confused by a lot of simple things.

Mia is the only one innocent int his situation.

Do I want to dig at the OP? Yes
She bought a dog from a Byb'er I can't stand that she says one thing and then does another. to me that makes her actions no better than those breeding for greed.

Bless your heart.

How nice

Man it sure must be nice to wake up every morning and know I could do no wrong and had the right to sit and pass judgement on others;)

Elaine, when my Pee Wee was a puppy he had an upper resp. infection that sounded like what you have described. We ran a humidifier with him, and he would come in the bathroom when we showered for the steam. He also had to have medicine for 21 days.

I'm not without fault, I have a lot. I'm not trying to pass judgment and I'm sorry for any underhanded comments. I don;t know what crawled under my skin.

My drive and passion comes from my own mistakes in how I have handled situations with yorkeis, so it is only fair for me to say that the same could be true for the OP.

If it were not for my experiences both bad and good in dealing with my own pups I would not be where I am today.

:thumbup::thumbup:

None of us are without fault, and sometimes we do make the same mistake twice. Hopefully we do learn eventually. ;-)

I couldn't watch the entire video. No matter what research you did to find the pup I find it hard to believe the seller didn't know she was sick. You can hear it and see it. She should have never been sold.

Look, I'm not "bashing", I'm reviewing as well. If you are entitled to jump on here and and voice your opinion then so am I.

I apologized because some of my comments were a little quick and harsh (in NO way "bashing", give me a break!) but I stand firmly by the fact that this OP has made some pretty huge mistakes ALONG with the "greeders".

If you don't like my gate don't swing on it.

The breeder made Elaine aware the puppy was ill and also sent her home with medicine.

Which makes me wonder if those circumstances neglegate the puppy lemon laws...whose purpose was to help people who had unknowlingly purchased sick puppies.

I don't think it negates the Lemon Laws. She was told the dog was well and had been cleared by the vet for sale. The medication was for "just in case".

:confused: "To believe in your choice you don't need to prove that other people's choice's are wrong”

:yelrotflm

Maybe I mis-spoke. Your are digging at the OP (in your own words).
Futhermore I don't want to "swing on your gate, or care which way it swings".

The point I am trying to make is this lady for what ever reason has a sick puppy that she purchased from these breeders. She made a review of these breeders in the Breeder, Vet, & Groomer Review section so that others may not make the same mistake as she did, but now for some reason others are bashing, diggin' on, or talking trash about the OP? Unless she is a Breeder, Vet, or Groomer personal reviews of the OP does not belong here and should not be allowed here. I'm sure she feels bad enough without people bashing or diggin' on her.

glad you think that is funny.......

It's there to remind everyone including myself, and I believe I've already apologized for anything over the top that I said.

I will not sit here silent for fear that you think I'm Bashing digging or any other kind of ing you can come up with.

I disagreed with someone like you are disagreeing with me so deal with it.

I agree with you, she should have known better and yes twice is a pretty big mistake :( but the focus now is on the little one and making her better not throwing out unkind words, although I know you apologized and I really do understand your frustration :( for me once was enough but sometimes we make the mistake twice and we need forgiveness and some solid advice and I think you can definitely offer that :D
Hope your little one is feeling better and stronger

I did not include your quote to be mean. I included it to because it is very wise. The sad thing about this whole thread is that there are a lot of upset people and hurt feelings all for the love of these wonderful dogs. The only people who don't seem to be upset with the situation is the original breeders/brokers. That they would suggest that they will put down all their animals as a threat alone shows how their true feeling run. I admire the love, devotion, and intensity of the people who are advocates against the byb and puppy mills. Better to have a strong opinion than to feel nothing at all.

Sorry, I'm a little on the defensive as you can see. I'm not so good at taking my own medicine sometimes and I have a very hard time dealing with people that perpetuate the suffering of innocent animals, then I just can't shut my mouth.

Hi. Not worried about the $200. I've gone into $523 as it is, so another $200 isn't going to break me. I had only said that she has improved dramatically in the past two days. Playing, eating and not acting sick in any way except for the nose this morning. I did call the vet right away. He said that there is a test that is fairly new, where they swab the mucis from the back of her throat and her eyes and then send it into the lab. We have been in contact just about daily, other then yesterday. He calls everyday and I've had her back for check ups about four times in the ten day period plus the intial exam so that would be five times. What he said was AND, this is to answer Nancy too. What he said was that it could be that because she was so congested that it is finally coming out of her and it is doing that by discharging through the nose. She is not coughing nearly as much, just she woke up with crap out of her nose, like a kid with a cold. He suggested bringing her back on Thursday morning, so we can take it from there. See IF the nose is clear by then and of course if it is worse tomorrow I'd bring her right in, but if it is not then she is scheduled for Thursday in which she will then have the swab done if it hasn't changed any. I would never let me dogs go without medical or anything else. I would do without first. I did call and ask about the decongestant. I am able to use a little plain saline just a drop in the nose and that will help to flush out whatever crap may be in there. It is non medicated, just simple saline. He said they use that on infants quite often because when they are sick it helps to clear the airways. I will not skimp on her. I'll have done whatever is needed, I just posted here because I felt that it does not hurt to ask others who may have had this experience and maybe their vets told them something different or maybe they know a remedy they've used etc. For example someone suggested Temural (may be spelling it wrong) they said it knocked it right out of their baby. Well, today I asked my vet about it but he said that is not an antibiotic and asked if I was refering to and he said another name. I forget what it was, but I do when people say things that they have used or experiences they've had I do ask the vet because I feel that MANY heads are sometimes better then just one. So I thank everyone for their input.

Elaine