Perhaps Nancy you could start your own thread in defense and in promotion of the YTCA?

Yes, I've read that too, but it does mean you have to take special precautions, a small injury to the head, can cause death. Totally agree with this, investigate, investigate. investigate!

I do not understand what you have against this breed club; obviously you have a problem with it, perhaps because they won't change the standard. However, a breed club is supposed to protect standard, and I would have a problem with the club, if they changed standard just to suit the buying whims of the pet buying public. Standard should only be changed if there are health concerns that can be directly related to the written standard. For example, an overly short nose on a written standard may cause breathing problems and the breed club might want to address that.

I'm not connected to the club in any way. I have the link in my signature because I'm forever grateful to the Yorkietalk members (non-breeders) here, who told me about the club.

Elaine,
So sorry your little one is so sick. I hope she recovers quickly with the right care. That video is just heart breaking.

I just want to reiterate what has already been said here, investigate, Investigate, INVESTIGATE who you are buying from. Georgia has some really good breeders, but it's also got a lot of HORRID ones. We are one of those states that has minimal protections and laws in place pertaining to breeding. Dogs are considered just property. We also don't have a puppy lemon law. It truly is Buyer Beware, here. Some of the greeders I met with before getting Rhett would make your toes curl! They are the reason I ended up going the rescue route instead. I saw some dogs that were so sick that I left the greeders house and immediately contacted animal control. I'm thankful that YT was here for me to refer to during that time, even though I hadn't signed up as a member yet. If it hadn't been here, I would have probably walked away with the first ill and poorly bred Yorkie that I ran across, just to "save" it. Thanks to YT, I knew if I did that, I would be effectively promoting and rewarding the greeders. Someday I'll tell you all the full stories on my furbutts, Scarlett's is especially sad.

Yes, there are some GREAT breeders in your area and if I"m not mistaken I directed Jrsy to some of those breeders or offered to help get her in contact with a a few I know on a personal basis and I also let her know that I had a good friend with a puppy available but it wasn't a tiny and tried to help but oh well she wanted a tiny.

Donna

Don't mean to hijack this thread I only have one question, I hope it can be answered here.

When there is a YTCA breeder breeding for show and selling pups but behind the scenes things are wrong where does it get reported? What kind of rules have to be followed as part of this standard of YTCA and AKC and if someone does not report this "bad thing" and continues to breed or show can they be reprimanded?

This makes sense, and this would also be a great thread topic, I know that there are ethical breeders on here and I appreciate your time and experienced opinions on these matters. I DO NOT breed nor will I EVER but I do like to try to understand the goings on in this crazy world.

You did Donna, but I did want a tiny. My point in getting another one was so I would have two the same size. I wanted one just like Brooklyn. I did get her but there was a price. Again, I am posting this to help others avoid the same situation.

I'm glad you did post to help others avoid the same situtation and that is what I'm also trying to convey is that we are here to help in trying to find and recommend good breeders :) Lesson learned and this has been a very educational thread :)

Donna

Elaine, I'm sorry your pup is sick. I bought a pup several years ago with a respritory infection. The vet couldn't get rid of it with antibiotics. She wasn't getting any better after going through 3 different ones. Finally, she prescribed Temaril P and that cleared her up. You may want to ask your vet about this.

My vet prescribed this as she said there were some antibiotics that she would not prescribe for a young pup. The Temaril did the trick.

From the Code of Ethics

7) A member shall not defame another member of the YTCA nor seek to impair member's or the YTCA's reputation, provided however, a member shall report any serious situation, created by another member, that is detrimental to the breed or is inconsistent with these principles.

Based on this Ethic and until the investigation is completed a YTCA member is not at liberty to discuss the situation.

The breeder in question is not being covered for, Elaine asked about the breeder, she contacted YTCA members for their opinion, it was given.

There is good in bad in every organization. And as I've stated over and over again, recommending a breeder is a big responsiblity and one should not do so without fully knowing one's breeeding practice. If I'm approached on another breeder, be it YTCA or not, that I know to be of questionable breeding practices, I will not speak badly of them, but will not recommend.

I may lead someone to the YTCA breeder referral list but, from that point it's up to the buyer to conduct their own investigation.

Donna explained very well the defamation clause of the code of ethics, but thank you for posting from the actual document. I realize the code prevents you from naming the breeder at this point, but will you name the breeder after the investigation?

I understand there is good and bad in every organization. But I also think when you have knowledge that someone isn't a good breeder and remain quiet, essentially you are condoning their breeding program.

Nancy....I won't quote your post but will answer you in another thread discussing the merits and lack thereof regarding the YTCA. But quickly did want to add, my problem as I've stated before is primarily with breeders whether they are YTCA or not. Unlike some, I don't look to YTCA as the reining deity of yorkie breeders.

I think plenty will agree with you that the YTCA is not GOD, however, they are the Mother Club for the Yorkshire Terrier, and they do set the standard for the AKC, and they are considered to be the leading experts. By experts, I mean those who have studied the breed the longest. Is there another breed club you prefer?

Praying for your little mia, the video is so heart breaking :( real tough to watch. I pray she gets better very soon :heart to

How a member reacts/responds to this situation is very dependent on the outcome of the investigation.