Maybe she trusted her to do the right thing. Sometimes people do make mistakes. The poor boy should have not been bred, but OP still did it. Was that really the breeder's fault? I am planning on buying my yorkie I want a pet only, well the breeder has to take my word for it or neuter him before leaving her house.

The new owner knew this and still did it. Then used "I'm new to breeding" as for why she did it. Did she not do enough research, studying, mentoring prior to jumping in and becoming a breeder. A breeder guides her own breeding program not the person who sold her the dog. Within a year you should know if he/she is good enough to use.

Two sides to everything.......doesn't matter what the cause of them re-instating her they did and that is all that matters.

First of all I would like to thank all of you for reading and posting. As you can see in Tiffanys posts she is quite on the defesive side. I am not looking for anyone to take my side. I am just looking to educate people on the personality of Tiffany and her breeding habits. I assure you all I never knew he only had one testicle until I received him. Tiffany knew I was looking to buy a small male to breed with my female. And I never paid 700.00 for him. He was far more then that. She advertised him as a champion sire. She is totally lying! And as far as her referring to the bible and so on. Please do keep praying Tiffany because lies count against you. And when you intentionally do harm to people or living creatures thats on you. You and I both know what really went on and if you can live with yourself then thats you. And reason this is brought up now is because I finally found a place where she is dealing. Back FOUR years ago I would email her and she never emailed me back. Over the years I've looked her up and found she was suspended (for whatever reason) its not because of the AKC its because she didnt supply the info the requested. In another post she is even admitted to it. She blames it on a move. And now wants to say it was the AKC's error. Tiffany is a spineless person and wants to blame everyone else for her wrongdoings. Again I take full responsibilty for him. Like I said previously I have the emails and paperwork of what Tiffany sent me. Stating he was ok to breed. I did take him to the vet right away and thats who told me he COULD not be used for breeding. Thats when I contaacted Tiffany back. I never had any other problems with him he aggressive. I even called Tiffanys vet and asked why he would write on the certificate ok for breeding, her vet stated to me he never wrote that. She put it on there to make it seem ok. Anyhow he is now fixed and a pet only. And Tiffany noone is judging you thats what it is. You did me wrong and you know it. I paid for it and I want others to know who you really are. You are not as good as you say. You may have champions but you didnt get them by being honest.

Anyhow thank you all again for reading and posting. I have learned a lot in the past four years about dogs and breeding. Tiffany knew I was just starting out and I thought she could be a good resource for me and I trusted her until the emails stopped and I realized she scammed me. Good luck to you all!

For someone who has better things to do with their life they still come back to defend themselves--just stating the obvious.

Tiffany, I hope you find loving homes for your Yorkies and that the Yorkies you intend for breeding are sent to good homes with good breeders. I wish you nothing but the best.

Alysia, I hope that the Yorkie is well and healthy and knows how much he is loved in your home. I'm not sure how long you've been breeding but I wish you the best of luck.

Also, the last time I checked this was a Yorkie forum, not a religious one. Lets keep this clean. Bringing religious beliefs into this will only stir up more problems. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and their own faith.


Now that all is said and done, a matter that is many years old needs to go to rest. Everyone learned a lesson.

I THINK IT IS TIME FOR THIS THREAD TO BE CLOSED!!!:thumbup:

Funny you just joined and apperently know sooo much about me. Im not entitled to a day off of work for a day of doing NOTHING? I work hard at what I do and matter of fact I do have a life. I show dogs too and no Im not a breeder but when someone posts something like how they got screwed over not only myself but other YTers search out the truth too. I didnt know it was a crime to search out a person. Go ahead research it and you will find hundreds of threads of the same crap. So for someone to search out YT (which im sure you had gotten the gossip elsewhere, so whos the one with no life?) just to post what you did, shows someone with nothing better to do. How many posts do you have? 2. You just happened to have found YT today to defend your friend. The AKC privalige revoke stated she and her husband had inproper paperwork for multiple breeds. How else is one supposed to take that? Go and search dog breeder websites most of your BYBers mention God a thousand times. Now go and search that person you founds name. Im willing to bet you any amount of money you will find many negative things about their breeding program, sick puppies, falsifying paperwork,the list goes on.
And please get over yourself.. quoting the bible.

Yeah close this thread.

Im so tired of people bringing religion into things. I think that was the whole thing that set me off. So many commerical breeders talk about God, I think that is supposed to change ones perspective of things.. Yeah so and so talked about god.. That must mean they are a good person. Im going to buy a puppy from them sight unseen

AGREED! I dont want you guys to keep getting more angry with each other.

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This is nuts. I second you on this. I like this board but now it seems it has become a big mess. I do believe Mrs Coburn has a right to defend her self and she did it. Now allow people to buy if they want to.

I would not want a show baby or even show one because of stuff like this. Yikes scary stuff

I'm glad you said this.
I feel the same way.
I had bad dealing with one of these types of breeders and let me tell you.
A person can be/claim to be religious and still not be an honest person.
IMO...Religion should not be used as a selling ploy.

copied and pasted from "Rules"
 

Feel free to review your breeder, groomer or vet. Please note, only post your PERSONAL experience with the breeder, groomer, or veterinarian. This is not a place for heresay or second-hand information. List positives and any negatives, and please let us know when you interacted with them. This forum is also only for Yorkie-related experiences with breeders, groomers, and vets.


I see that only one person, the original poster, has had PERSONAL experience with this breeder so these other posts shouldn't even be here according to the forum rules. While I can appreciate that everyone has an opinion, this forum is not the place for them unless you have had PERSONAL experience directly with the person being reviewed.

Close The Thread
 

Come on people really..., just close the thread, you can think of me as you will and I am at peace with that. and people will always judge other people, because thats the sin in the flesh.
As far as religion is concernd, I made a statement of do not judge me, for I am not shame of GOD, so I will speak his name always. Regardless of the situation because he is my strength and with out him we are nothing. He has blessed all us with just life itself. Every morning you wake up, you are blessed with another minute of life.
I never use GOD to sell dogs, what is wrong with people who would even say something like that. The world is getting sicker by the day. I will never be ashamed of God, and I will speak his name always wherever I am. I do not care if it offends others, or if they do not believe, but I do, for I am not ashamed. His strength and my faith is what gets me through situations like this. And for people to just take their day and just search me out like a witch hunt, absouletly blows my mind. WOW!!!! is all I can say.
As for the statement of someone saying I think people are just crazy,... no the truth is I think some people are just ate up with sin, thats what I think... if you don't have something good to say, then don't speak at all. Dont make the world a more misserable place to live, take your day and do something nice, it will make you feel better.. And for the lady, she knows who she is, Did GOD not bless you with show dogs? and beautiful healthy yorkies? and you are shamed to say his name and thank him, and you just made a statement that ALL COMMERCIAL Breeders use GOD, I am not a commercial breeder, and once again you just put her self in a hat by saying ALL, you are so judgemental! really ALL of them do, do you know ALL OF THEM? Even though I do not agree with commerical breeding, I DONT put words out their like ALL of them, because I don't know any of them to say that, and who I am to judge them for what they do, I don't agree with it, but its not my place to judge them! and for all who says... oh here goes the religion thing and that his name set you off, WOW!!! hearing his name sets you off??? Lord have mersy on your soul lady.. all I can say is may GOD forgive you... BLESS YOU ALL and your fur babies...

Dee I don't see where it says an opinion of a breeder can not be posted, in someone's review. An opinion is not heresay or second-hand information. Opinions can be formed by going to breeders sites and seeing what information is there, also with information that has been posted in the past on YT. If we are not allowed to give an opinion within someone's thread, where else should it be done? Or, are you saying opinions should never be given?

I agree:thumbup:

so we meet again. didn't I say, granted everyone has an opinion? If your opinion has to do with YOUR PERSONAL experience, then by all means it should count. i didn't make the rule. I just copied and pasted it and I think we can all read.

So what do you call yourself Tiffany if not a commercial breeder. You've stated you have much more important things to be doing then this, Why do you keep coming back to defend yourself. The bible mentions if someone does slaps your cheek turn the other cheek. If you are so into your belief you wouldnt care about these posts. But see you care because your name is on the line. And you have to throw out these false claims of everyone else being crazy but you. I truly hope people see the real you and know you are only in it for the money. You buy, sell and breed multiple breeds. Whether you have show dogs or not is neither here nor there. I contacted you through a website to purchase a small male for my female to breed with. You sent me a dog with only one descended testicle. Knowing I wanted to breed. Never once did you say he only had one testicle. Anyhow its my loss your gain. There is no need to worry right since you are this high and mighty breeder better then the rest. You have your cleintel and should have no worries. Keep doing what you do best (shouldnt be too hard) And stop worrying about what others say or their experience with you. Im sure we all have encountered good and bad people Unfortuneately you were one of the bad in my life. Again I will say I thought you would be a good resource for me to start my (backyard) breeding program with. I trusted you and believed when I sent you the money I was getting what I thought was a quality yorkie. And yes if you told me he was aggressive with females why would you sell me a aggressive male to be around my female and children. Doesnt make no sense. Reason for my post was to let others out there know to be aware of what they are doing. Get it in writing what you are buying (a pet only, limited registartion and so on). Dont buy blind like I did. Tiffany you know what you did to me was wrong. I do take full responsibilty for what I did and bred him ONCE. He is now neutered and happy. All his offspring have been neutered at my expense. No sweat off your back I pray for you and hope God continues to bless you daily!

I find this whole thread very strange.
Alyssia Hicks has only 6 posts thus far and is complaining
about a dog purchased 6 yrs ago.

Tiffany Coburn only has 11 posts since 2005. How did Tiffany know
that Alyssia was posting this thread in the first place?
Neither are YT member's.
I find it too coincendential that both are visiting this site
at the same time when one just came on and the other
never posts. 11 posts in 3yrs! Strange


Is this a troll or two?

My thoughts exactly! Alyssica and Tiffany, how and why did you choose YT to have this little argument?

This thread has probably run its course. :)