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JadedSmilez 08-01-2007 03:35 PM

30-ish Days Pregnant....
 
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BellaBean is due end of August early Sept...
She is about 30-ish days..and I am unsure if it even took yet. The Vet said she can't tell from palpitating only Xray, but not until the bones have calcified enough to see (like a week or 2 before due date).
I dont remember if she showed right about this time or if it will take a few more weeks. The stud we used was super small and she is about 4.5-5lbs herself. I did notice about a week ago she started having 'morning sickness' she threw up once 2 days in a row. Anyways here are 4 pics taken tonight, I think the 1st 2 doesnt really look like she is, but the other 2 do...
...what do you guys think??

(I reposed in my own thread because no one seemed to respond/see it):cool:

Ladyhawk 08-01-2007 04:20 PM

Her teats look like she may be. Have you checked her for weight gain? Remi is due the 24th and really doesn't look pregnant but she has already gone from 5lbs. 10 oz. to 6 lbs. 7 oz. Her weight gain suggests that she is definitely expecting.

s1utster 08-01-2007 08:52 PM

if you want to know for sure . take her to get a ultrasound. the vet said you can tell in 25 days with a ultrasound. get xrays a week before she is due. my little girl got xrays on day 45 and the vet saw nothing. she had one pup and he didnt make it.keep an eye out for her during her due date. best of luck to ya.

ooh yea. i have read that you should get the xrays with her on her back and not the side. im not sure which is better. it's jsut something i read here on YT.

YorkieRose 08-02-2007 11:22 AM

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From the pic's, I say she is pregnant! I can see the milk ridges already. Upset tummy last week is an excellent sign also.

Rubi 08-03-2007 04:26 PM

I also think she's pregnant. Her teats definately look to me as if she was pregnant, they quite pink and seem pointed and enlarged. If she's a first time mom then I guess her teats must have increased in size a lot which would indicate to me she's expecting. Good luch.

Susan123 08-04-2007 01:00 AM

By the first picture alone, I'd say yes. I didn't even look at the others. Lighting wasn't as good. It would suprise me if she wasn't. And don't even mention the vajayjay

Yorkiekids 08-04-2007 04:20 AM

I love her jelly belly, and hope someday to breed Penny after I get a lot of advise from the breeders on here.

ZsaZsa 08-25-2007 06:40 AM

My Zsazsa also bred for her 1st time around 30 days ago. I never saw them tie but I am noticeing some differences in her. She has been having some nausea and her teats look slightly swollen but I am concerned with around them they seem to be bluish/purplish in color is this normal? I read somewhere that it could be her milk coming in????? Very concerned but excited too. Anyways yours does look a lot the same but by your pictures I would say that yours is definitely pregnant. Is this her first pregnantcy? Good luck

noochie2742 12-25-2012 07:15 PM

My suri was bred dec.4 and dec.7 I am feeding a high quality grain free puppy food I'm caring for her til puppies are weened and I am having her fixed she belongs to the breeder til then technically what else should I do for her she also went down with eclampsia day before delivering the pup she was bred the very next heat. Not my wishes but as she isn't technically owned by me it wasn't my call I just need advice on how can I prevent this from happening again if I can.

gemy 12-26-2012 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by noochie2742 (Post 4086617)
My suri was bred dec.4 and dec.7 I am feeding a high quality grain free puppy food I'm caring for her til puppies are weened and I am having her fixed she belongs to the breeder til then technically what else should I do for her she also went down with eclampsia day before delivering the pup she was bred the very next heat. Not my wishes but as she isn't technically owned by me it wasn't my call I just need advice on how can I prevent this from happening again if I can.


This is very old thread, post your own. Ask a reproduction vet, search one out in your area. I personally would never breed again a dam that had eclampsia before an actual whelp. This is a tricky situation to manage. CA2 is not usually to be given to a pregnant bitch.

Your question needs an expert to answer and pardon me for saying this, not on any on line pet forum.

My best advice is given in first paragraph. Good luck and I hope you can keep your pet alive.

noochie2742 12-26-2012 03:05 PM

Thank you I personally think she should of been spayed which I have pre payed for but breeder wanted to get one more litter from her she is 5 years old

gemy 12-26-2012 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by noochie2742 (Post 4087163)
Thank you I personally think she should of been spayed which I have pre payed for but breeder wanted to get one more litter from her she is 5 years old

Then do that spay her. And please please consult with an expert on the risks you are putting your gal through.

I have to say any breeder knowing the previous medical history of this dog, should never try to force you to go through with one more whelp.

Stick up for your dog. Protect her health and well being. JUST SAY NO to this breeder.

You are and more importantly your dog is taking all the risks.

lynzy420 12-26-2012 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 4087211)
Then do that spay her. And please please consult with an expert on the risks you are putting your gal through.

I have to say any breeder knowing the previous medical history of this dog, should never try to force you to go through with one more whelp.

Stick up for your dog. Protect her health and well being. JUST SAY NO to this breeder.

You are and more importantly your dog is taking all the risks.

:thumbup:

Great Post, Gemy.

....also, since I'm not a breeder I'm just going to say if you let this pup go through another whelp your crazy....absolutely selfishly crazy...but I'm sure you won't because now you armed with great information which I'm sure you didn't know before....either way keep us posted....

lynzy420 12-26-2012 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by noochie2742 (Post 4086617)
My suri was bred dec.4 and dec.7 I am feeding a high quality grain free puppy food I'm caring for her til puppies are weened and I am having her fixed she belongs to the breeder til then technically what else should I do for her she also went down with eclampsia day before delivering the pup she was bred the very next heat. Not my wishes but as she isn't technically owned by me it wasn't my call I just need advice on how can I prevent this from happening again if I can.

This is just ridiculous, honestly? I'm sorry if you take offense here but I think this whole line of reasoning her pregnancy etc., is crap...your looking for information on how to prevent eclampsia in your pup AGAIN? The only way to prevent it is to not breed her again, really...since she's not really yours technically, why don't you give her to a rescue and save her from the greeder who technically owns her and the Momma your not...

msyorktown 12-26-2012 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noochie2742 (Post 4086617)
My suri was bred dec.4 and dec.7 I am feeding a high quality grain free puppy food I'm caring for her til puppies are weened and I am having her fixed she belongs to the breeder til then technically what else should I do for her she also went down with eclampsia day before delivering the pup she was bred the very next heat. Not my wishes but as she isn't technically owned by me it wasn't my call I just need advice on how can I prevent this from happening again if I can.

???? I'm sorry I'm completly lost here! Is she your pup, or not? Why are you getting a pup that has been bred back to back?
How to prevent this from happening again....get her spayed!!!!

noochie2742 12-27-2012 08:50 AM

She is owned by the breeder. Until her pups are weaned if I owned her now I would not have bred her again her life is too important to me I too find it selfish of the breeder to have bred her again especially back to back but it wasn't up to me. Trust me these dogs mean more to me than anything

dottiesyrky 12-27-2012 09:01 AM

I'm confused! Why didn't the breeder keep the dog until delivery and the pups were old enough to be separated?? All this should not be your problem??
Anyway hope all goes well for the poor girl.

lynzy420 12-27-2012 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dottiesyrky (Post 4087896)
I'm confused! Why didn't the breeder keep the dog until delivery and the pups were old enough to be separated?? All this should not be your problem??
Anyway hope all goes well for the poor girl.

:thumbup:

OP Please clarify your situation, I think there is some miscommunication here, I just don't understand.

msyorktown 12-27-2012 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by lynzy420 (Post 4087958)
:thumbup:

OP Please clarify your situation, I think there is some miscommunication here, I just don't understand.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: I too am lost....what exactly is the situation here? Sounds like momma is not your pup?? So this is the breeders problem?? Have you put a deposit on this pup? I'm at a complete loss....

TxVicki 12-27-2012 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by msyorktown (Post 4087964)
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: I too am lost....what exactly is the situation here? Sounds like momma is not your pup?? So this is the breeders problem?? Have you put a deposit on this pup? I'm at a complete loss....

It sounds like she is Co-Owned, and after such time then the OP will own her outright.

nanahas3 12-27-2012 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TxVicki (Post 4087983)
It sounds like she is Co-Owned, and after such time then the OP will own her outright.

That is the way I read this also. Is she maybe a show dog?

noochie2742 12-27-2012 06:59 PM

No as I understand she has produced show dogs I do not own her at all I have only had her since November I am simply taking care of her while she is pregnant and until she weans pups she only goes to the breeder the week before she is due the breeder pays any and all vet costs after I have her spayed I will own her for free . I did not co own or breed her at all the only males I have is a tiny whom is neutered a possible show dog when he is older he is almost 6 months but very dark so I don't know yet I'm new to the yorkie world these pups are non relation to pregnant one. I'm trying to gather as much knowledge I can to care for her the best way I can

lynzy420 12-28-2012 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by noochie2742 (Post 4088389)
No as I understand she has produced show dogs I do not own her at all I have only had her since November I am simply taking care of her while she is pregnant and until she weans pups she only goes to the breeder the week before she is due the breeder pays any and all vet costs after I have her spayed I will own her for free . I did not co own or breed her at all the only males I have is a tiny whom is neutered a possible show dog when he is older he is almost 6 months but very dark so I don't know yet I'm new to the yorkie world these pups are non relation to pregnant one. I'm trying to gather as much knowledge I can to care for her the best way I can

Is this common in the breeding world to breed a dog and send her off to whelp??? I'm baffled. All I can say is read through all the links that interest you and you should find helpful information on any topic your looking for. There is a search at the top of the page where you can specify terms you are looking for. Good Luck, I don't know why your doing what your doing but it seems awfully wrong to me...but I'm not a breeder or shower.

Will you answer me this? Who is the owner of the dog, presently?

gemy 12-28-2012 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by lynzy420 (Post 4088852)
Is this common in the breeding world to breed a dog and send her off to whelp??? I'm baffled. All I can say is read through all the links that interest you and you should find helpful information on any topic your looking for. There is a search at the top of the page where you can specify terms you are looking for. Good Luck, I don't know why your doing what your doing but it seems awfully wrong to me...but I'm not a breeder or shower.

Will you answer me this? Who is the owner of the dog, presently?

Not in Canada or the USA ... to my knowledge. In an emergency situation a breeder might have to place their pregnant female, but would do their utmost to place her with an experienced breeder. Breeders will informallly or formally create little groups, where we share info and can help each other out. For eg; when one of my friends bitches had a problem whelping, we came. ONe helped the breeder bring the female to the vet, while I stayed in house keeping pups warm, and was bottle feeding until their return. This trust is not built overnight. And usually ideally (imo) starts with the mentor/student relationship. It is a part of how the student "learns". And a very important practical part.

And BTW there are some schools of thought that say; breeding back to back at least once is ideal. I am still of old school of thought though. Have not seen enough research to validate above.

msyorktown 12-28-2012 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noochie2742 (Post 4088389)
No as I understand she has produced show dogs I do not own her at all I have only had her since November I am simply taking care of her while she is pregnant and until she weans pups she only goes to the breeder the week before she is due the breeder pays any and all vet costs after I have her spayed I will own her for free . I did not co own or breed her at all the only males I have is a tiny whom is neutered a possible show dog when he is older he is almost 6 months but very dark so I don't know yet I'm new to the yorkie world these pups are non relation to pregnant one. I'm trying to gather as much knowledge I can to care for her the best way I can

As far as I know in order to show, pups must be unaltered...please correct me If I am wrong on this one...:confused:

carmen in nj 12-28-2012 10:16 AM

Wow, this is a new one to me, I have assisted in whelps with other breeders but never heard of placing a pregnant bitch just to whelp...
hugs,

carmen in nj 12-28-2012 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by msyorktown (Post 4088884)
As far as I know in order to show, pups must be unaltered...please correct me If I am wrong on this one...:confused:

Well the idea is to better the breed, if you champion a dog then you know is a perfect specimen for breeding..
hugs,

msyorktown 12-28-2012 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by carmen in nj (Post 4088886)
Well the idea is to better the breed, if you champion a dog then you know is a perfect specimen for breeding..
hugs,

Thanks for the clarification Carmen...:)

gemy 12-28-2012 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by carmen in nj (Post 4088886)
Well the idea is to better the breed, if you champion a dog then you know is a perfect specimen for breeding..
hugs,

Gosh Carmen, any show breeder would love a "perfect" dog, it is what we strive for, but perhaps never acheive. They should how-ever be excellent examples of the breed!

All dogs have faults, some minor some major. And there is the "look", which in an observer sic breeders mind, might not match the "ideal" they want for the breed. Try to update and or change a standard. Oh boy, it is very hard to do. We could spend days on arguing about ear set to name just a "minor" variant. Never mind ear size.

carmen in nj 12-28-2012 12:15 PM

in my eyes all dogs are almost perfect dogs, but the closest to perfection make it to the show rink.. so yes the perfect dog...LOL ear set and size, is like beauty in the eye of the beholder.. usually the Judge...LOL
hugs,


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