Champion Yorkie to a NON Champion Yorkie?
 

Is it okay to breed a non champion yorkie to a champion (bloodline) yorkie?

Or would it be looked at as if it was a wrong thing to do, even if you think both dogs would compliment each other?

no doubt there will be show breeders on here that will say no. But, if they compliment each other and IF they have BOTH had all the required testing and IF you have researched breeding before you even start, I don't see anything wrong with it.

Dee,

I just clicked on your site and saw Renny! He's sooooo super duper cute!

Pang

P.S. Thanks for the advice...

Thanks. he is going to be one of my studs when he gets older and I have all his testing done.

My Pixie has a champion Stardust father and a non champion Stardust mother .

see below...

seeing that Renny came from Champion bloodlines, would you ever consider breeding to a NON-Champ? Just wondering...:rolleyes: ;)

i intend to breed him to my Judabob girls next heat. They are not champions but from champion lines. renny has 68 champions between his mother and fathers four generation pedigrees and you can see how many show on his pedigree in the first three..

I agree with Dee if they compliment each other I don't see anything wrong with it. After all that is the point to improve.
I have one girl not that has 2-CH in the lines..
Ch Ru-Be's Special Feature and CH Judabob's Golden Sunshine but 5-6 gens back.
She is bred to a friend of mine's male that has the CH Windwood, CH Rothby,
CH Northshires, CH Altratam, CH Stardust lines. I hope to get something really nice out of her.
I plan to keep 1-2 pups out of her and I am trading a pup with another breeder friend of mine who had some Bluemist lines.

Not wrong to do. You should be more concerned as to what type of yorkies the dam produces.

breeding
 

It is done all the time..infact there are far more champion males then females to start with...I would not breed a champion of any sex to one without a quality pedigree.

okay so in saying that then, since mine is not from a champion bloodline (but she sure is full of CHAMPION to us!!!), then it's not ridiculous to choose a champion bloodline stud? they won't think I'm crazy? ;)

stud
 

Many breeders with champion stud will not breed to a bitch with no pedigree (Pet pedigree) but if you have already discussed it with the breeder and they agree, by all means..go for it..the idea is to improve.

she does have a pedigree...and yes, she is registered...but i just don't want breeders to look at my ped and make a fool of me and my dog. And yes, it is to improve, not for MONEY!!! Thanks!

pedigree
 

When a breeder uses the term.."No pedigree"..it does not mean the dog does not actually have a pedigree..it means they have a "Pet Pedigree", a pet ped is one with no champions in the first 3 generation..past 3 gens really don't do much..and for future knowledge... A champion pedigree can be turned into a pet pedigree in one or two short generations.....and you can not turn pet pedigree into a champion pedigree by breeding to one champion...I applaud you for wanting to improve.

Thanks Pat, I was just about to explain that, but you did so eliquently.

Mary

Lol
 

You are kind.."eliquently" is not one of my gifts..I have it all in my head, but putting it to paper can be very tricky...thanks

Yes, it is difficult to explain all the ins and outs of breeding, since there are so many things to look at and consider

What you need to do is have someone that really knows about the standard (someone very experienced) and ask them to evaluate your girl and bring her pedigree for them to look at.
It sounds like she doesn't have any champions in the first 3 generations? This makes it really tough to know about her relatives/grandparents, etc.. It is all about genes! Where did you get your girl from? I see you are here in Georgia.

Pat, I agree with Mardelin - you did a great job explaining. We need to call you the one with the "golden tongue." oops - should be golden fingers (key pad). LOL. Nice job. :thumbup:
T.

okay...honestly...twix was not a chosen pet (meaning that we did not get to choose her)...originally, my mom's boss had gave us a Brussell Griffon because his wife thought that she could not take care of her...so seeing that we were a bit sad about it, he promised he would purchase us another dog of choice. We had mentioned that we wanted a yorkie, and then a friend of a friend who worked with my mom said that she knew breeders in macon. so the check was written and twix came home. we sent in her papers and everything and so when her pedigree came in, i evaluated it. don't know much about it, but i don't see any CH bloodlines in her :(...i seem to not be able to search for the breeders...i have her name but not a phone numer...i've looked in the white pages and there are only two numbers for that name...ahahhahaa...is that crazy!????? i was thinking about just calling to see if they breed yorkies and then finish off my situation...ohhh...i wanted to call to see how her parents were and how her mom took her pregnancies...that way i know if i need to really expect anything major. by the way, i got her from breeders in macon.....where are you located????

I am located in Dahlonega - at the end of 400. I do not know any breeders in Macon and none that show from Macon. You ought to call the numbers you have and just check to see if it is them. It cannot hurt. Sorry about the pedigree. There are only a few of us here in Georgia that do show. When I lived in Florida - so many.

You ought to come to the Atlanta Rose Cluster show next month (August 24-26). I do not think that is too far from you. Show is located just off the beltway - 285.

T.

what is the atlanta rose cluster??? is there a website for that?

check through infodog.com

We just call it the Cherokee Rose Cluster since with have three days of showing between the Sawnne Mtn. (my club), Lawrenceville and Conyers Kennel Clubs. We have gone in together to put on the 3-days of show. It will be Friday, Aug. 24th - Sunday, Aug. 26th at the Atlanta Exposition Center off of Jonesboro Road in Atlanta. You will need to check later for ring times. They are made public after all enteries are made, usually a week before the shows. Would love to see you there. :)

FYI (unentered dogs will allowed in the building only if in crates in grooming
area.)

T.