C-section and STILL PREGNANT
 

This is very strange, Lizzy statred losing her mucus plug on Wed. 6/20 on thurs. it changed to a clear liquid like her water had broke??? Keep "leaking" all day thursday on & off, changing back and forth from mucus to claer, Thurs. went to Vet, she said she was dilating, but not quite ready, possibly in 24 hrs. she would deliver.this would be day 58 on Friday. OK sat. still no signs of being in labor, took her to my regular Vet, he examed her & said the same thing, but that she probaly wouldn't go into labor, soooo C-section, he opened her up and the first puppy out (a little male) had no hair he was pre-mature. he died shortly thereafter. so he closed her back up and said wait until Sat. 6/30 and he would do another C-section (or re-do) if she goes into labor before then he will have to terminate the pregnancy. Please pray that she holds on until then, he said he never heard of this before, and some dogs just need more time Sat. will be 67 days and NO I DID NOT GET MY DAYS MIXED UP. He had never did this before so i guess it's an expertiment. I"m soo scared, i have to go work so she will be staying with the Vet during the day and with me at night. Anyone else ever hear of anything like this?

Wow, sounds to me like he jumped the gun on that one. I've heard of mom miscarrying one pup and carrying the rest to term. That may have been what was going on here. She may not have gone into labor yet because it just wasn't time. Sometimes it's best not to second guess mother nature. I hope she delivers the rest with no trouble. Good luck, we'll be pulling for you.

oh wow - poor mommy...I'm not a breeder but have never read that happening before - GOOD LUCK to her !!!

i have never never never heard of opening up a mother then resewing her and state lets wait til later. that is so very odd. never in all my readings and discussions for the last probably 5 years have i ever heard of anything like this.

i will pray pray pray everything turns out well.

i would probably speak with some other vets about what happened b/c that doesn't seem right. (it could be) but i have never heard of a vet doing that.

I am sorry that you lost a puppy. :( I have not head of what your vet is doing. Maybe take her into another trusted vet, just to ease your mind. I wish her and the other puppies well!

Tammy

I would definately call around to other vets and see if they've ever heard of it before. Sorry about your pup, I hope Momma comes through everything OK. I worry about her uterus if she starts having contractions. Prayers for you all.

This sounds like malpractice to me. It doesn't sound like she was in distress at ALL, and this vet should not be practicing:irk: I'm not even a breeder, but all the stuff I've read over the years, this is just WRONG:( I'm so sorry you lost one puppy:cry: Hopefully the rest will be okay, but I'd definitely find a new vet NOW. JMHO.

Hugs!

Wow, Smooth move on the part of the vet to try and save the lives of the puppies....but at the possible sacrifice of mom. Never heard of it before, I don't see why it shouldn't work.

Poor mom, 2 sections so close together. If this were my beloved pet, I would have had only 1 section and spayed her. Whether they're breeder/pet or pet only it's heartbreaking to make such a hard decision. Praying he'll be able to save both litter and keep mom. Keep us updated, you'll be on our minds,

Susan

Iam no breeder, i just wanted to send a prayer to you & your little girl, does seem a bit odd to me though.

i'm sorry but that vet did not know what he was doing. you need to find another vet immediately. i agree, this is malpractice. i just pray that your mama will be alright.

Agreed! Find another vet!

I agree, find another vet, this one was has no idea what he is doing!!:mad:
He shouldn't have even considered a c-section unless she was further along and in a lot of pain/distress.

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So sorry about losing your male pup:( I agree with some of the others, I have never heard of such a thing as he has done, I surely hope he keeps a close eye on her for any infection! Praying that the other pups are able to make it!!

Debbie
Tea' +6

What I find most upsetting about this is the fact that my girls have always had a clear/mucuos leak for about a week before welping. This is normal, just a sign that she would be getting close. I wonder why your vet wouldn't have known that?

And why didn't he do an x-ray or ultrasound before the section? Surely that would have given him an idea as to how far along she was with the pups?

OMGosh, I need to amend my previous post. I was considering from a different angle, (optional early c-section), sorry.

I agree Alycia, he didn't have a real reason to do the section in the first place. He did as LadyHawk said, jumped the gun. He moved way too early and realizing his mistake, he sewed her back up. What a devestating whelping. Praying for the best for puppies and mom.

It sure sounds fishy to me....
 

Think maybe I would consult another Vet......then call the "Vet Association", or what ever is is called.....like the AMA for Vets.......I think he screwed up big time and now you lost a little boy........and it sounds like he tried to brush it under the rug.....:thumbdown

I would for SURE call another vet in the morning and get their opinion on this. It doesn't sound right. Usually they want to wait for a c-section to see if they can pass them on their own first as that is the best. I don't see how putting the mother and the puppies through another surgery is very good at all. Would the sleeping drugs be good for the pups twice? I would call!!

http://dog.justanswer.com/

I used this site when Diggy was sick...it costs 9 bucks but you get to speak to a vet. They were very helpfula nd everythign she suggested I do was right on for Diggys condition. SHe had his diagnosis (hypo) right also. Id try it if you do not have anyone to consult with until morning when vets open.

I keep checking this thread. Oh I hope everything works out :(

This is just amazing to read about. I've only heard of this happening once with an english bulldog.
There was in that case some un-certainty of the actual date of mating. They preferred to deliver the litter via c sec so they scheduled one at what they believed to be the safe time. It is my understanding that some EB breeders prefer to have c secs? I know nothing about the breed and am going on a conversation in the waiting area at my vet. There was a live pup in the end who thrived. It was about three years ago, and I had never heard of this before.
I hope everything turns out ok for you.

How is Lizzy doing? Praying that she will be OK.

Praying
 

This thread is scary....It just seems like something is wrong. I pray for mommy and those babies to be okay...PLease let us know how she and her babies are!?!

Oh my, prayer's coming for Momma and her babies.

I do hope you were able to find another vet.

Shame on that vet!!!My vet would of waited for he is a firm believer in them whelping naturaly and trying all possible before a section.
He was way to hasty in his decision.I would find another vet. she will not be able to whelp the pups now she will have to under go another section and I would not feel comfortable with that vet doing it again.The poor mama she is going to be put through the ringer.
If there was no hair on that pup she has a bit of time yet to go.
Hope all is okay with her and you .My prayers are with you and your moma.

I am sorry that you and your prospective mommy have had to endure this!...I would certaintley worry about an infection since mommy has been opened up and then closed back up again...I would advise you to find a vet capable of monitoring the rest of her pregnancy!...I would also recommend that she get daily progesterone testing done to determine when it is safe to take these babies...That should have been done prior to opening her up in the first place!

Good luck and I hope everything turns out ok!

~Laura & the JaLa Yorkie Gang

I am not sure why a vet would do a c-section before the bitch goes into labor , but sometimes a vet might think the breeder knows more than she does. I know that c-sections are planned on several breeds , like Bull Dogs and Pekingese , but even then you would think the vet would want to see some signs of labor just in case the sperm sat there for several days waiting for eggs. But this story is not the worst I have ever heard, one of my friends thought she had the right day and the vet did the section on a Peke bitch and took all the puppies out 5 girls,There was no hair on them , they were delivered at least a week early. all died!!!! She did not count her days right. She was worried and a lot of people gave her bad advice to get the puppies out. I told her to let them cook they will be out when they are ready, but she did not listen and took her to the vet and insisted on a section.

At least this vet closed the bitch back up and maybe saved the other puppies. It is sad and I hope that the other puppies and the mother do well. I have heard of this before, but my vets wants to see them contracting before he will section a bitch.

My vet said the same thing.....:thumbup:

how is mommy doing???