Originally Posted by natalienicole (Post 1098073)

Im not saying i disagree im just trying to solve a problem. Guess its not gonna work. I just understand people are sick of arguing and i think its rightfully so.

Originally Posted by simonandhallie (Post 1094114)

Have you all forgotten what it is like to be new at something? Or to not have ALL the answers? Last time I checked with the world not everyone was perfect at everything.

I am so appalled at the responses given in this section I actually feel like I need to hover over the new members who are asking LEGITIMATE questions so they don't get trampled onby some of the members here. I really hate feeling this way and I feel really sorry for the new members who have to read some of the comments here.

This forum is an educational community but how can people learn if they don't ask questions? And how can those questions be answered if most of the responses are full of sarcasm, rudeness, and attitude?

If you are not planning on responding to the poster's questions/comments then move on to another section. If you have the knowledge to reply please do. Even those of us who are not breeders enjoy the opportunity to learn.

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 1104763)

Someone posted a pic of a pup, I viewed the pic WITH MY EYES (um, not hers) and she posted in the thread that I WAS WRONG.

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 1104777)

Bah! It should have read:

Someone posted a pic of a pup, I viewed the pic WITH MY EYES (um, not hers), stated my opinion of what I saw and she posted in the thread that I WAS WRONG.

Originally Posted by red98vett (Post 1097235)

After reading these posts...I thought I'd add something. I don't agree with attacking anyone ...there's ways to be tactful when we post even if it's to say something honest. I don't see how starting a new thread about something that we see wrong is going to ever help because what's the difference in posting in the original vs a new one ??

with regards to certain red flags regarding breeding practices.... When the day comes that no one speaks out for those poor tiny girls who are far too small or old to be bred, then there is no point of even reading anymore. Someone has to speak for them, or those that don't know any better will think it's ok to do this kind of thing.

I think if it's worded well, people can offer help and advise and in some cases maybe someone will actually listen to them... but the sad reality is - people are going to do exactly what they want to do whether it be wrong or not. If no one ever says a word - how will the next person know what constitutes good vs bad breeding practices ???

I agree no one should be rude but I also think people will start keeping their feelings to themselves for fear of being attacked and that may not be good for the yorkies in the bigger picture.

Originally Posted by drawlins27 (Post 1095503)

I wasn't sure if I should post my opinion or not since it varies from most here but here goes.

I see a lot of so called breeders come on here and mention that they engage in the most horrible breeding practices. I have seen them talk about breeding their female every cycle, breeding older females, breeding 3 lb females, and the list goes on. I would expect nothing less than for the reputable breeders on here to question these practices. Part of being a reputable breeder is a love for the breed and no one could read these posts without saying something.

A lot of people read these threads, not just breeders but those who are thinking of breeding and those who are looking to buy. They learn from the responses to these posts. What would they learn if a breeder posted that they let their pups go home at 6 weeks (for example) and no one said anything? They would learn that this is a safe and acceptable practice.

To use a recent example, a breeder recently came on here and mentioned that she was going to breed an 8 yr old female who was around 3 lbs. Some of the others on here questioned that and rightly so. I hope that anyone thinking of buying a pup from her reads those posts and thinks twice. Granted some of those posts did get a bit rude but as for those breeders that questioned her methods, I applaud them for it. I hope that the breeder in question will now chose to research her decisions and change her practices because she obviously loves her females very much.

That being said, I do not think that anyone should respond to a post in a rude manner or engage in name calling and I have seen it get out of hand and the OP of a thread becoming defensive. However, I think that the only reason this happens is from the passion that everyone feels about these dogs and the strong emotions that are involved. What I would really hate to see, is this board becoming nothing but a love fest for anyone who just wants to get a male and female together instead of being an educational tool.

Sorry for the long post. I am not a breeder but I did grow up in a breeder home and I have done over 79 rescues. Many of my rescues are the result of an irreputable breeder or one that didn't do their research and I just feel really strongly about the issue of education for the breeder and the buyer.

Originally Posted by sylvan (Post 1106751)

This is an excellent post. Yes, opinions vary on many issues...but there are basic principles of right and wrong. If experienced, reputable breeders cannot point out issues that should be addressed, the educational aspects of this site will diminish. Pm's only benefit the recipient. Many people read here without posting and hopefully learn about things they would not be aware of otherwise. I did not learn what I know from someone patting me on the head and telling me only what I wanted to hear...thank goodness.

Originally Posted by simonandhallie (Post 1094114)

Have you all forgotten what it is like to be new at something? Or to not have ALL the answers? Last time I checked with the world not everyone was perfect at everything.

I am so appalled at the responses given in this section I actually feel like I need to hover over the new members who are asking LEGITIMATE questions so they don't get trampled onby some of the members here. I really hate feeling this way and I feel really sorry for the new members who have to read some of the comments here.

This forum is an educational community but how can people learn if they don't ask questions? And how can those questions be answered if most of the responses are full of sarcasm, rudeness, and attitude?

If you are not planning on responding to the poster's questions/comments then move on to another section. If you have the knowledge to reply please do. Even those of us who are not breeders enjoy the opportunity to learn.