Yorkies in heat

[luvtif]

Originally Posted by lisatodd

now this is poor breeding. there have been so many people, me included, who has purchased a yorkie, expecting it to be the standard, and with in a year, we have a large yorkie. this is NOT right. you will hurt so many people trying to sell these dogs as standard yorkies. plus, get a bad name for yourself. that grandmother who is 10 lbs will pass that weight down to the grandbabies.
ohhhhhhhh this makes me so very angry. we here at yorkie talk try to educate people on breeding to improve the breed and the standard.
you came here seeking advise and some very good show breeders and breeders have giving you some advise.
please listen to them.

i have learned so much from these people on yt that in my area, i am known to be a reputable breeder eventhough i only have 2 litters a year. i already have a list of people waiting for my next litter in october (hopefully). it makes me feel good that these wonderful people here on yt have taught me so much and i still have much to learn. it feels good to do the right thing.

please, if you want to breed....get two dogs who fit the standard.
please do not add to the poor breeding that is already out there.
be a reputable, loving, caring breeder.

I know you already apologized for this post but there are so many things that are being misunderstood so I want to respond.
The 10 pound yorkie is not registered (even though she is a full yorkie) and so those puppies were not sold. They were given away to family members to have as pets to love (not picture perfect little Yorkies as some seem think pets have to be). Secondly, that dog is not the grandmother of my baby. The stud of that litter is the father and a totally different female is the mother. And you will probably tell me that is not the right way to breed either, but for one, I didn't breed those puppies-my in-laws did. And I am sure glad they did because it gave me my baby. We just want to make puppies for us and others to love. We will definitely keep the safety of our dogs in mind, but if less than perfect puppies are produced, we will love them just the same. I love dogs, not the history and progression of the Yorkie breed.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by luvtif

I know you already apologized for this post but there are so many things that are being misunderstood so I want to respond.
The 10 pound yorkie is not registered (even though she is a full yorkie) and so those puppies were not sold. They were given away to family members to have as pets to love (not picture perfect little Yorkies as some seem think pets have to be). Secondly, that dog is not the grandmother of my baby. The stud of that litter is the father and a totally different female is the mother. And you will probably tell me that is not the right way to breed either, but for one, I didn't breed those puppies-my in-laws did. And I am sure glad they did because it gave me my baby. We just want to make puppies for us and others to love. We will definitely keep the safety of our dogs in mind, but if less than perfect puppies are produced, we will love them just the same. I love dogs, not the history and progression of the Yorkie breed.

It appears you are going to do what you are going to do.
Good Luck

[JESSY_RN2B]

Originally Posted by luvtif

I know you already apologized for this post but there are so many things that are being misunderstood so I want to respond.
The 10 pound yorkie is not registered (even though she is a full yorkie) and so those puppies were not sold. They were given away to family members to have as pets to love (not picture perfect little Yorkies as some seem think pets have to be). Secondly, that dog is not the grandmother of my baby. The stud of that litter is the father and a totally different female is the mother. And you will probably tell me that is not the right way to breed either, but for one, I didn't breed those puppies-my in-laws did. And I am sure glad they did because it gave me my baby. We just want to make puppies for us and others to love. We will definitely keep the safety of our dogs in mind, but if less than perfect puppies are produced, we will love them just the same. I love dogs, not the history and progression of the Yorkie breed.

No one has perfect dogs. And if they say they do-someone's has lied to them. But there is a difference between close to standard and grossly not.

What people are trying to tell you is that you should breed within the standard and with plenty of education behind you. No one is telling you NOT to breed. Just do it the right way.

Who are we kidding here? Both we and you know you are going to do whatever you please and no one in here can do a darned thing about it......right?

People can try to educate you til they are blue in the face and it is ultimately up to you to file it in the garbage or learn. They are not attacking you or being ogres. "Attacking" here on YT gets thrown around a lot by those who don't like what they hear.........even if it's the truth. It's a way of playing the role of 'Martyr Mary' and just portraying as victims so someone with their beliefs, values etc will come to the rescue and say "it's okay sweety-people are just so mean and nasty"..........thus validating your intentions.

Lastly, I am assuming you fell in love with the yorkshire terrier breed. The yorkie terrier of today, and the one depicted by the AKC etc..

Now, assuming that.........then I would assume you would care "about the history and progression of the breed". If not, then you are being a hypocritical by saying you love the breed.


I am not attacking you by the way, I am just being honest and blunt. I expect others to be the same with me. This is all part of the 'learning process' and believe it or not-very valuable

Good luck.

[BamaFan121s]

Yes, I think it is clear that this person is going to do what they are going to do regardless, which is a crying shame really.

This is the type of outlook on breeding that baffles me and sadly, people who think along those terms, the "I don't care about the standard" and "we just want puppies" attitudes really disgust me. "I don't care about the breed!" What is most unfortunate is they are not the ones that have pay the price.

[JESSY_RN2B]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Yes, I think it is clear that this person is going to do what they are going to do regardless, which is a crying shame really.

This is the type of outlook on breeding that baffles me and sadly, people who think along those terms, the "I don't care about the standard" and "we just want puppies" attitudes really disgust me. "I don't care about the breed!" What is most unfortunate is they are not the ones that have pay the price.

And for that reason........they are destined to be BYB and nothing more.

[JESSY_RN2B]

By the way, before the 'Marty'r Mary' defender crawl out their skeleton. I am not attacking anyone..........just a general statement.

[lisatodd]

if your dogs are going to be registered w AKC, then you need to breed by their standards or they should not be registered w AKC

Getting Started as a Responsible Breeder

The AKC welcomes responsible breeders to the world of purebred dogs. Breeding involves art, science and total devotion. It will show you the best in the human-canine bond ... and the result of absolute commitment by responsible breeders. What are the hallmarks of a truly responsible breeder?

A Responsible Breeder is Always a Student

Responsible breeders seek to improve their breeds with every litter. To reach this goal, they must devote hours to continually learning as much as they can about their breeds, including health and genetic concerns, temperament, appearance and type. They also need to know about general dog behavior, training and health care. In short, they become canine experts
Good puppies start long before their parents are bred. Both the sire and dam need constant care, or conditioning, to produce the best offspring. This means regular veterinary care, screening for genetic problems, pre-breeding health tests, regular exercise and good nutrition. It means consulting with a veterinarian or experienced breeder to ensure that you know how to meet the dam's (mother's) special nutritional needs while she is in whelp (pregnant).


there is much more....i just ask that you take a look at the AKC guidelines and please don't add to the enormous amount of irresponsible breeders out there.

[lisatodd]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Yes, I think it is clear that this person is going to do what they are going to do regardless, which is a crying shame really.

This is the type of outlook on breeding that baffles me and sadly, people who think along those terms, the "I don't care about the standard" and "we just want puppies" attitudes really disgust me. "I don't care about the breed!" What is most unfortunate is they are not the ones that have pay the price.

i totally agree with you. also, to register them w AKC just makes me just as sick because this just (i dont know how to put it in words) but it just lessens the impact of having an AKC puppy. if the breeding is so poorly done then people just are not going to care that AKC is behind it.
i know i am not explaining this very well.....i hope you get what i am saying

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by lisatodd

i totally agree with you. also, to register them w AKC just makes me just as sick because this just (i dont know how to put it in words) but it just lessens the impact of having an AKC puppy. if the breeding is so poorly done then people just are not going to care that AKC is behind it.
i know i am not explaining this very well.....i hope you get what i am saying

No, I understand exactly what you mean. It does not cast the AKC in a very good light and does nothing but contributes to tarnishing what the organization stands for and promotes.

[lisatodd]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

No, I understand exactly what you mean. It does not cast the AKC in a very good light and does nothing but contributes to tarnishing what the organization stands for and promotes.

THANK YOU....sometimes i get so frustrated i cannot put my thoughts into words.

[HighlandYorkies]

I'd just like to say that some of these posts to me look like bullying AGAIN....and by the same two people....think to yourselves before you are so cruel in the way you write things to people - things come accross different to people over the keyboard, and this lassie was only asking about a few things about if she and her pal bred.....your answers have a lot of knowledge in them which should be enjoyed by many, but the way you are so cruel, and not naming names here....is to me astounding, sorry

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by HighlandYorkies

I'd just like to say that some of these posts to me look like bullying AGAIN....and by the same two people....think to yourselves before you are so cruel in the way you write things to people - things come accross different to people over the keyboard, and this lassie was only asking about a few things about if she and her pal bred.....your answers have a lot of knowledge in them which should be enjoyed by many, but the way you are so cruel, and not naming names here....is to me astounding, sorry

I am sorry that you didn't like the way things were worded, however, I would ask you to take your own advice and think before YOU type. "Bullying" is a very stong word to just toss around--I urge you to stop and consider the true meaning of it before you accuse others of it. What you have posted here added nothing of value to what was basically a dead topic. All who were actually involved in this conversation had stated their opinions and moved on. I think everyone had already come to realize that the topic was not achieving any positive results and were adult enough to move on. What do you feel you accomplished by posting nothing but a criticism of other people? You seem very concerned with making sure the poster got nothing but answers and no unwanted comments, yet here you have become guilty of the same thing. There is a very familiar saying that fits here, "the pot calling the kettle black..."

[HighlandYorkies]

That's your opinion.

[jazzygirl]

There is a way of giving advice in the true geniune way it is intended--to teach someone else. Then there is a way of giving advice under the impression of teaching someone, and although the facts presented maybe true, they are presented in a very condescending and snobbish way.
This is clearly the impression I got reagarding some of the posts on this thread.
Everyone that is on this board obviously has a love for Yorkies, or they would not be here. Not everybody is as passionate about the subject as others are. Nor are everyone's lives as consumned with this passion, as others are. This does not mean that those individuals who are less passionate than others, do not love their Yorkie and take the best care of them.
I agree that education and knowledge should be gained before any breeding goes on with any species--including humans. But again there are different levels of people's passion in regards to breeding.
It is ironic because I know of dogs (both Yorkies and non Yorkies) that were breed by a "reputable breeder" that were very passionate about their breeding and the pups were definitely not within standard; and on the other hand I have seen pups (both Yorkies and non Yorkies) that were puppy mill pups and they could not be more "perfect" by the breed "standards" .

[kelkiss5]

Originally Posted by jazzygirl

There is a way of giving advice in the true geniune way it is intended--to teach someone else. Then there is a way of giving advice under the impression of teaching someone, and although the facts presented maybe true, they are presented in a very condescending and snobbish way.
This is clearly the impression I got reagarding some of the posts on this thread.
Everyone that is on this board obviously has a love for Yorkies, or they would not be here. Not everybody is as passionate about the subject as others are. Nor are everyone's lives as consumned with this passion, as others are. This does not mean that those individuals who are less passionate than others, do not love their Yorkie and take the best care of them.
I agree that education and knowledge should be gained before any breeding goes on with any species--including humans. But again there are different levels of people's passion in regards to breeding.
It is ironic because I know of dogs (both Yorkies and non Yorkies) that were breed by a "reputable breeder" that were very passionate about their breeding and the pups were definitely not within standard; and on the other hand I have seen pups (both Yorkies and non Yorkies) that were puppy mill pups and they could not be more "perfect" by the breed "standards" .