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autumn star 04-23-2007 11:04 AM

Has anyone gotten their Yorkie from.....
 
SV Quality pups in Brooklyn NY? I had been in contact w/the man from there and he assured me that he has the best pups around. Never made the trip in to see them because I found a good breeder closer to me but I was just curious if it was everything he said it was or just another puppy mill!:eek:

Pipersmommy 04-23-2007 11:08 AM

I went and checked out the site, looks like a broker to me.

bruizersmummy 04-23-2007 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pipersmommy (Post 1081182)
I went and checked out the site, looks like a broker to me.

Looks like it to me too! They state NOTHING about the pup or prices or nothing.

Lexi Rae 04-23-2007 11:33 AM

yes, a couple of people on this site have gotten puppies from ivan.
not a good reputation at all... dont buy from him...

JCarlson2004 04-23-2007 11:48 AM

I use to rave about Ivan and S&V Quality Canines ... but I was sadly mistaken. Let me tell you my story and hopefully it will help you make your decision.

I bought 3 dogs from S&V Quality Canines:

1. Codie, a male Maltese

2. Katie, a female Yorkie

3. Tia, a female Yorkie

ALL three have had health problems.

Codie had severe luxated patella in his rear left leg at a little over 1 year old and Ivan REFUSED to pay for anything or even help. Codie had to have surgery. Also, Codie has very poor gums (they sometimes bleed when he eats hard food). :(

Katie (rest in peace my little angel) was diagnosed with SEVERE kidney disease. She only lived a little over 1 year. :( :(

Tia had a bad case of coccidia and almost died the first night I brought her home. :(

In addition to my dogs, my friend Fran bought her Yorkie, Sammi, from Ivan. Sammi had an extreme case of liver failure. Sadly, she did not make it -- she was only 2 years old. RIP little Sammi girl.:(

I would NEVER recommend anyone buy from S&V Quality Canines again. I am so sorry that I ever recommended them in the first place. :thumbdown :thumbdown Please think twice before buying your baby there. I wish you the best of luck in your search for a baby.

autumn star 04-23-2007 01:57 PM

Let me first say how sorry I am about your experience. I did almost go there to purchase a puppy. I went to see a yorkie that was advertised in my local paper when I got there I asked a bunch a questions and then the next day I called her back w/some more questions and she told me that she would not sell me her pups because I asked to many questions. I was upset but then I figured she did me a favor. So I contact what I now know is Puppy Petite/Puppy boutique and SV Quality pups. SV made it sound like they were selling golden puppies, the best around, he assured me that if I went and looked at his competition and then came and saw him I would be able to tell for myself that he was the best around. I never did go because I found some great home breeders that were not afraid to answer any and all my questions and got my baby girl from a wonderful lady. I was just really curious if his pups were as good as he said and if they were a place to keep in mind for the future.!

Anna Banana 04-23-2007 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCarlson2004 (Post 1081255)
I use to rave about Ivan and S&V Quality Canines ... but I was sadly mistaken. Let me tell you my story and hopefully it will help you make your decision.

I bought 3 dogs from S&V Quality Canines:

1. Codie, a male Maltese

2. Katie, a female Yorkie

3. Tia, a female Yorkie

ALL three have had health problems.

Codie had severe luxated patella in his rear left leg at a little over 1 year old and Ivan REFUSED to pay for anything or even help. Codie had to have surgery. Also, Codie has very poor gums (they sometimes bleed when he eats hard food). :(

Katie (rest in peace my little angel) was diagnosed with SEVERE kidney disease. She only lived a little over 1 year. :( :(

Tia had a bad case of coccidia and almost died the first night I brought her home. :(

In addition to my dogs, my friend Fran bought her Yorkie, Sammi, from Ivan. Sammi had an extreme case of liver failure. Sadly, she did not make it -- she was only 2 years old. RIP little Sammi girl.:(

I would NEVER recommend anyone buy from S&V Quality Canines again. I am so sorry that I ever recommended them in the first place. :thumbdown :thumbdown Please think twice before buying your baby there. I wish you the best of luck in your search for a baby.


I'm so sorry about your horrible experience. :( You are so kind to share your experience to help others.

Sugar's Mom 04-23-2007 03:15 PM

When I see these posts i can't help but wonder why, with all the good, reputable breeders on here, that we have people every day asking about other places. first place I would look is here.

kinetika 04-23-2007 06:43 PM

I bought my beautiful baby lazaro from there 1 year ago and have not had 1 PROBLEM. He is 14 months old. A friend of mine recommended S and V, she bought i believe 2 puppies from there and they are fine

Also, if you search yorkietalk.com you can find some past posts about this place that were pretty positive. Hey, I'm sure even the best of breeders or pet stores have their share of sick pups. If you need anything else please pm me so we can discuss and dont be discouraged by previous posters!!

diva pup 04-23-2007 07:54 PM

Please do not buy your yorkie from a pet store or broker. Do your research on the best way to obtain a nice quality yorkie.
A good place to start doing a little research is the YTCA website.

BubblPopElectrc 04-23-2007 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kinetika (Post 1082182)
I bought my beautiful baby lazaro from there 1 year ago and have not had 1 PROBLEM. He is 14 months old. A friend of mine recommended S and V, she bought i believe 2 puppies from there and they are fine

Also, if you search yorkietalk.com you can find some past posts about this place that were pretty positive. Hey, I'm sure even the best of breeders or pet stores have their share of sick pups. If you need anything else please pm me so we can discuss and dont be discouraged by previous posters!!

I was actually going to suggest doing a search as well. Although, I thought I remember there being more negative posts.. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

stedmansmommy 04-23-2007 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCarlson2004 (Post 1081255)
I use to rave about Ivan and S&V Quality Canines ... but I was sadly mistaken. Let me tell you my story and hopefully it will help you make your decision.

I bought 3 dogs from S&V Quality Canines:

1. Codie, a male Maltese

2. Katie, a female Yorkie

3. Tia, a female Yorkie

ALL three have had health problems.

Codie had severe luxated patella in his rear left leg at a little over 1 year old and Ivan REFUSED to pay for anything or even help. Codie had to have surgery. Also, Codie has very poor gums (they sometimes bleed when he eats hard food). :(

Katie (rest in peace my little angel) was diagnosed with SEVERE kidney disease. She only lived a little over 1 year. :( :(

Tia had a bad case of coccidia and almost died the first night I brought her home. :(

In addition to my dogs, my friend Fran bought her Yorkie, Sammi, from Ivan. Sammi had an extreme case of liver failure. Sadly, she did not make it -- she was only 2 years old. RIP little Sammi girl.:(

I would NEVER recommend anyone buy from S&V Quality Canines again. I am so sorry that I ever recommended them in the first place. :thumbdown :thumbdown Please think twice before buying your baby there. I wish you the best of luck in your search for a baby.

Oh my goodness, you poor thing! :( And your poor BABIES :( He certainly doesn't sound like a reputable man to buy from....thank you for sharing your story with others, I'm sure it will help out alot of people :thumbup:

Jazzipuppy 07-23-2007 07:39 PM

Off the wall - S & V Quality Canines Reviews
 
I am a little wary about listening to someone who is putting the same negative review of a puppy place but under different user names. It makes me wonder is this some type of personal grudge or vendetta? If so, they need to take some type of anger management counseling.
I think this site is suppose to be for dog lovers to share quality info with each other. Not for bashing.

As for myself, my family & I have bought in total, six dogs over the years from Quality Canines and intend on continuing to use them. It is a storefront, however the owners are the breeders themselves, who love their pups, are very knowledgeable and love what they do. And it shows when you walk in their immaculate store and see their well taken care of pups who are generally healthy. Plus, the customer service extends well long after the purchase (which is hard to find), as I have called them many times for advice. These breeders have been around for a long time, which is why my family has and continues to use them. All of our dogs have been active and healthy until old age.

Given the strange nature of these reviews, I think people need to contact and see the place and judge for themselves. Beware of obessive rantings!!!

sweetr72 07-23-2007 07:51 PM

You shared your positive experience and JCarlson shared her negative experience...I dont see anything strage about her reviews...although I do so your post as a bit strange?? Just my opinion..

Dawn

red98vett 07-24-2007 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazzipuppy (Post 1255773)
I am a little wary about listening to someone who is putting the same negative review of a puppy place but under different user names. It makes me wonder is this some type of personal grudge or vendetta? If so, they need to take some type of anger management counseling.
I think this site is suppose to be for dog lovers to share quality info with each other. Not for bashing.

As for myself, my family & I have bought in total, six dogs over the years from Quality Canines and intend on continuing to use them. It is a storefront, however the owners are the breeders themselves, who love their pups, are very knowledgeable and love what they do. And it shows when you walk in their immaculate store and see their well taken care of pups who are generally healthy. Plus, the customer service extends well long after the purchase (which is hard to find), as I have called them many times for advice. These breeders have been around for a long time, which is why my family has and continues to use them. All of our dogs have been active and healthy until old age.

Given the strange nature of these reviews, I think people need to contact and see the place and judge for themselves. Beware of obessive rantings!!!

I HAVE TO SAY THIS. Jen Carlson or anyone else who posted about this place are NOT obsessive ranters. Anyone who posts their personal experiences are entitled to say whatever they want - just like you are.

BUT - I have to think YOU are affiliated with them in some way to come here and go after people. Its one thing for someone to buy not knowing where the dogs came from - but to knowingly support Puppy mills by endorsing pet stores is a different story. You seem to be going out of your way to make them 'seem' ethical - when in reality - they're a pet store - SELLING DOGS FOR PROFIT ONLY - and you can just bet they've bought dogs from Puppy Mills.

JCarlson2004 07-24-2007 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazzipuppy (Post 1255773)
I am a little wary about listening to someone who is putting the same negative review of a puppy place but under different user names. It makes me wonder is this some type of personal grudge or vendetta? If so, they need to take some type of anger management counseling.
I think this site is suppose to be for dog lovers to share quality info with each other. Not for bashing.

As for myself, my family & I have bought in total, six dogs over the years from Quality Canines and intend on continuing to use them. It is a storefront, however the owners are the breeders themselves, who love their pups, are very knowledgeable and love what they do. And it shows when you walk in their immaculate store and see their well taken care of pups who are generally healthy. Plus, the customer service extends well long after the purchase (which is hard to find), as I have called them many times for advice. These breeders have been around for a long time, which is why my family has and continues to use them. All of our dogs have been active and healthy until old age.

Given the strange nature of these reviews, I think people need to contact and see the place and judge for themselves. Beware of obessive rantings!!!

I was not going to respond to your post (I feel it is wise to ignore people who are obviously disturbed) but several people have PM'd me and asked me to.

First of all, who is posting under different user names? We are only allowed 1 user name each ... so I don't know where you got that from. If someone is doing that (which I highly doubt), report it to Admin and he will handle it.

I'm not going to debate Quality Canines with you. I had my experience and I know of many others who has a similar experience. I don't need to prove myself to anyone, least of all YOU.

Alo, I find is very suspicious that you just joined YT and your very first 3 posts are all relating to Quality Canines. You didn't post a welcome thread introducing yourself and your dogs. You came here in attack mode and only posted about 1 topic. So I can only assume that you're here to cause trouble.

A word of advice ... leave now. Our member do NOT support pet stores and/or puppy mills. We also don't waste our time on trouble makers and internet trolls. If you're here to cause trouble, Admin will ban you.

JCarlson2004 07-24-2007 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red98vett (Post 1256514)
I have to think YOU are affiliated with them in some way to come here and go after people.

I agree 100%. :thumbup: :thumbup: I'm going to report this person to Admin.

red98vett 07-24-2007 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCarlson2004 (Post 1256550)
I was not going to respond to your post (I feel it is wise to ignore people who are obviously disturbed) but several people have PM'd me and asked me to.

First of all, who is posting under different user names? We are only allowed 1 user name each ... so I don't know where you got that from. If someone is doing that (which I highly doubt), report it to Admin and he will handle it.

I'm not going to debate Quality Canines with you. I had my experience and I know of many others who has a similar experience. I don't need to prove myself to anyone, least of all YOU.

Alo, I find is very suspicious that you just joined YT and your very first 3 posts are all relating to Quality Canines. You didn't post a welcome thread introducing yourself and your dogs. You came here in attack mode and only posted about 1 topic. So I can only assume that you're here to cause trouble.

A word of advice ... leave now. Our member do NOT support pet stores and/or puppy mills. We also don't waste our time on trouble makers and internet trolls. If you're here to cause trouble, Admin will ban you.

I didn't understand that user name thing either Jen - what's even funnier is you're one of the few who actually use your REAL name ...it's very obvious that person has his/her own agenda.

Jazzipuppy -Its one thing to post about a positive experience - but don't go after longtime members here please

Bizzymammabee 07-24-2007 07:53 AM

I went to S&V a couple years back. The guy Ivan is indeed a damn broker. He has a few pups right outside...the cutest and smallest and of course the most expensive. If he is a breeder then he sure breeds a hell of a lot of dogs. He gives you a few minutes to look around. His first question to me was how much are you looking to spend. So after looking (at the time I wanted a Shih) I didn't care to spend what he was asking. He then tells me hold on I am sure I have something in your price range. He then proceeded to call down to someone in the basement or wherever and they bring up a pup. I wasn't all that impressed with the baby or the operation. He then told me he could get me any type of pup I wanted within a day or two in whatever price range I was looking for.

Now if that doesn't scream of broker then I don't know what. I then proceeded to question him about parents and he was like they are owned by various family members and friends...but I couldn't get more info other than they are well cared for. Might I also add that being as he lives in Brooklyn I have no damn idea where he houses all these pups. You are living in the city and I am sure that NY has some ordinances about Kennels and how many dogs you can have. He has a good number of dogs stores in the basement or back since he was willing to bring out a procession of dogs to give me my choice depending on my price range.

Anyhow I high tailed it out of there and didn't buy a thing from them. He personally gave me the creeps...seemed like an undertaker.

sweetr72 07-24-2007 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCarlson2004 (Post 1256554)
I agree 100%. :thumbup: :thumbup: I'm going to report this person to Admin.

I hope this person is banned...an obvious trouble maker and probably the actually puppy mill owner!!

Dawn

red98vett 07-24-2007 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bizzymammabee (Post 1256597)
I went to S&V a couple years back. The guy Ivan is indeed a damn broker. He has a few pups right outside...the cutest and smallest and of course the most expensive. If he is a breeder then he sure breeds a hell of a lot of dogs. He gives you a few minutes to look around. His first question to me was how much are you looking to spend. So after looking (at the time I wanted a Shih) I didn't care to spend what he was asking. He then tells me hold on I am sure I have something in your price range. He then proceeded to call down to someone in the basement or wherever and they bring up a pup. I wasn't all that impressed with the baby or the operation. He then told me he could get me any type of pup I wanted within a day or two in whatever price range I was looking for.

Now if that doesn't scream of broker then I don't know what. I then proceeded to question him about parents and he was like they are owned by various family members and friends...but I couldn't get more info other than they are well cared for. Might I also add that being as he lives in Brooklyn I have no damn idea where he houses all these pups. You are living in the city and I am sure that NY has some ordinances about Kennels and how many dogs you can have. He has a good number of dogs stores in the basement or back since he was willing to bring out a procession of dogs to give me my choice depending on my price range.

Anyhow I high tailed it out of there and didn't buy a thing from them. He personally gave me the creeps...seemed like an undertaker.

Screams broker to me that's for sure. IT also screams puppy mill puppies - and for that I'm sorry for the dogs left behind. Funny how these people put the cute expensive dogs up front and kick the others to the curb :( what bugs me is he can offer to get any kind of dog yet 'claim' he's a breeder ?

Bizzymammabee 07-24-2007 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red98vett (Post 1256635)
Screams broker to me that's for sure. IT also screams puppy mill puppies - and for that I'm sorry for the dogs left behind. Funny how these people put the cute expensive dogs up front and kick the others to the curb :( what bugs me is he can offer to get any kind of dog yet 'claim' he's a breeder ?


V,

I didn't know much indepth information about mills back then but it screamed wrong to me. If you are indeed the breeder then how come you can't 1) show me the parents, 2) let me see them so I can guage personality, 3) answer how many litters they have a year, 4) show me how and where they are kept/kenneled outside of the most favorable dogs on the showroom floor.

The biggest biggest tell was the fact that he told me that he could get me any dog I wanted if he didn't have what I wanted on hand and it would be in my price range...duh...

red98vett 07-24-2007 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bizzymammabee (Post 1256653)
V,

I didn't know much indepth information about mills back then but it screamed wrong to me. If you are indeed the breeder then how come you can't 1) show me the parents, 2) let me see them so I can guage personality, 3) answer how many litters they have a year, 4) show me how and where they are kept/kenneled outside of the most favorable dogs on the showroom floor.

The biggest biggest tell was the fact that he told me that he could get me any dog I wanted if he didn't have what I wanted on hand and it would be in my price range...duh...

:( :( :(
I agree with you 100% ...I made the mistake of buying my Cocker Tessa from a kennel that I now know to be a small scale puppy mill - closed now - but a mill still the same. Back 13 years ago I was clueless but it haunted me for a long time after bringing her home thinking about where she came from -

That Ivan person at SV sounds like a true SALESMAN - slick like OIL

Bizzymammabee 07-24-2007 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red98vett (Post 1256683)
:( :( :(
I agree with you 100% ...I made the mistake of buying my Cocker Tessa from a kennel that I now know to be a small scale puppy mill - closed now - but a mill still the same. Back 13 years ago I was clueless but it haunted me for a long time after bringing her home thinking about where she came from -

That Ivan person at SV sounds like a true SALESMAN - slick like OIL

The place definitely moves a lot of pups. My neighbor a few houses down had three dogs from him. He seems to be on friendly terms with Ivan so I never mentioned what I thought of the place when we spoke of it.

lisatodd 07-24-2007 08:49 AM

the funny thing is.....they don't understand we can pick these people out in a heartbeat. people trying to come on here and act like they are in no way involved with these stores, breeders, brokers. we can smell you like flies on poo.
just go away because you have been SNAGGED.

kinetika 07-24-2007 09:06 AM

this is my second post regarding this topc. i bought my beautiful baby lazaro from there 14 months ago(he is now 17 months old). i have never had one problem with him. a co-worker of mine also had 2 pups from them with no issues. the guy was kind of weird (i dont remember if his name was ivan or not), but what i can tell you is that the place was clean and all of the pups were very cute. and i also believe when they close each night, they bring their pups upstairs with them. true, some of us here might have had a bad experience with them, but on the flipside, some of us have not. this thread is really just stupid now.

red98vett 07-24-2007 10:16 AM

This thread isn't stupid - and kinetika - These people will tell you anything to sell a dog. Don't believe everything you hear from a Pet store..they tell people what they want to hear so they can sell you a dog. They're in business to make as much money they can off each dog - they aren't in it for the warm fuzzies - it's all about the green.

for those looking for a puppy:

PLEASE don't support Puppy mills by going to pet stores - there's plenty of information on the net about them - just do a search. There may be good and bad pet stores out there but the bottom line is - anyone who supports them is supporting puppy mills

jp4m2 07-24-2007 11:26 AM

Why is it when several people have similar stories about their ill &/ or dying pup coming from the same place some one comes on here & tries to post about their healthy pup....just because theirs may be healthy does not take away the fact that the majority of pups may be ill & the healthy ones are the exception....just because a BYB or Puppy Mill occasionally gets a few that slip through & remain healthy does not in any way make them reputable, consider yourself one of the fortunate ones.....your healthy pup in no way shape or form erases the fact that there are dead & dying, and ill pups coming from the same breeder or broker...stop defending & open your ears, you may learn something...

txshopper73 07-24-2007 11:33 AM

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40852

Mardelin 07-24-2007 11:43 AM

I've never said anything about rules or regulations on the Forum...but, will now. Isn't the breeder section for discussing breeding situations and not to discuss breeder reviews? Especially a Pet Store Review, very sore subject with most of us.


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