Pedigree ??? - YorkieTalk.com Forums

maxs_momma · 01-31-2008, 03:50 PM

I am not sure that i am asking this in the right place or not but i hope so

Ok i just got the online Research Pedigree - 5 Generation on my min pin and it says she has 12 dif. champions in her pedigree now i am so dumb at this so i have to ask is that good for 5 generations or is that a low number?

YorkieRose · 01-31-2008, 04:06 PM

I can not recall without counting how many are in a 5 gen...60 maybe??? You see there is more to it then CH in front of a name...you can have a breeder with a champion stud and from that they get quality bitches used in the line...perhaps a stud who is pointed by not finished...that accounts for some of the non-champion dogs/bitches..

If the 12 champions in the 4th and 5th, not so good...the first few gens can be pet quality now and not show..or the champions can be in generation 2 and 3, 4 (the offspring is the first gen) that would be 16 I think and if 12 were champions, that would be a terrific ped...it is not so cut and dry to look at the numbers only...where, is more improtant IMO

maxs_momma · 01-31-2008, 04:12 PM

Oh wow that is amzing and also lost me lol sorry oh and also so everyone knows i am not asking because of breeding I WOULD NEVER BREED not because i have anything against it just because i know nothing about it and it is just something i could never do i am just asking because i have heard so much about CH that i had to look and see what that even meant lol so i got nosey and looked my babies up and found that she had 12 total in her 3rd,4th and 5th gen. I know in the end it really means nothing to me because i love my sweet baby no matter what but i was just being curious and trying make since of it all

thank you very much

lisatodd · 01-31-2008, 04:23 PM

you want to see the champions in the first two to three generations. it only takes one poor breeder to ruin a wonderful pedigree.
if the champions are in later part of generations, then it really doesn't mean that much to most breeders or show breeders.
all akc dogs have come from champions.

maxs_momma · 01-31-2008, 04:30 PM

Oh wow that is nice to know thank you like i said my min pin is my baby no matter what i love her i was just curious to what it meant

And thank you again i love learning new things and you guys have been great helping me out

YorkieRose · 01-31-2008, 04:41 PM

I was afraid my post was confusing...everything always seems to clear to me when I type it, but not when I read it...LOL

maxs_momma · 01-31-2008, 04:46 PM

And i goofed it is 13 not 12 but still they are all in the later gen. still nice to see who her ancestors are to

maxs_momma · 01-31-2008, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

I was afraid my post was confusing...everything always seems to clear to me when I type it, but not when I read it...LOL

Lol that sounds just like me everything i type makes since while i am typing it then i go back to read it and i am like what was i talking about LOL BTW i really commend you guys on all this knowledge

Sugar's Mom · 01-31-2008, 04:49 PM

sam also has champions but they are in the fourth and fifth generation. go to my website and find my "Future Dam' ms. sadie, the pedigree that is on there is Sam's pedigree. She is a kid from a previous litter of Kandy and Ceeby so he has exactly the same pedigree.

01-31-2008, 03:50 PM	#1
maxs_momma Living life with yorkies! Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,722	Pedigree ??? I am not sure that i am asking this in the right place or not but i hope so Ok i just got the online Research Pedigree - 5 Generation on my min pin and it says she has 12 dif. champions in her pedigree now i am so dumb at this so i have to ask is that good for 5 generations or is that a low number? __________________ Skeeta&Bella Max & Sam member's of the little gentlemens club R.I.P my little Chiquita Words can be like weapons so please be kind when you post

01-31-2008, 04:06 PM	#2
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	ped I can not recall without counting how many are in a 5 gen...60 maybe??? You see there is more to it then CH in front of a name...you can have a breeder with a champion stud and from that they get quality bitches used in the line...perhaps a stud who is pointed by not finished...that accounts for some of the non-champion dogs/bitches.. If the 12 champions in the 4th and 5th, not so good...the first few gens can be pet quality now and not show..or the champions can be in generation 2 and 3, 4 (the offspring is the first gen) that would be 16 I think and if 12 were champions, that would be a terrific ped...it is not so cut and dry to look at the numbers only...where, is more improtant IMO Last edited by YorkieRose; 01-31-2008 at 04:08 PM.

01-31-2008, 04:12 PM	#3
maxs_momma Living life with yorkies! Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,722	Oh wow that is amzing and also lost me lol sorry oh and also so everyone knows i am not asking because of breeding I WOULD NEVER BREED not because i have anything against it just because i know nothing about it and it is just something i could never do i am just asking because i have heard so much about CH that i had to look and see what that even meant lol so i got nosey and looked my babies up and found that she had 12 total in her 3rd,4th and 5th gen. I know in the end it really means nothing to me because i love my sweet baby no matter what but i was just being curious and trying make since of it all thank you very much __________________ Skeeta&Bella Max & Sam member's of the little gentlemens club R.I.P my little Chiquita Words can be like weapons so please be kind when you post

01-31-2008, 04:23 PM	#4
lisatodd Little Boogers Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: virginia beach, va Posts: 4,460	you want to see the champions in the first two to three generations. it only takes one poor breeder to ruin a wonderful pedigree. if the champions are in later part of generations, then it really doesn't mean that much to most breeders or show breeders. all akc dogs have come from champions. __________________ lisa lisa and the cult jam yorkies

01-31-2008, 04:30 PM	#5
maxs_momma Living life with yorkies! Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,722	Oh wow that is nice to know thank you like i said my min pin is my baby no matter what i love her i was just curious to what it meant And thank you again i love learning new things and you guys have been great helping me out __________________ Skeeta&Bella Max & Sam member's of the little gentlemens club R.I.P my little Chiquita Words can be like weapons so please be kind when you post

01-31-2008, 04:41 PM	#6
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	ped I was afraid my post was confusing...everything always seems to clear to me when I type it, but not when I read it...LOL

01-31-2008, 04:46 PM	#7
maxs_momma Living life with yorkies! Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,722	And i goofed it is 13 not 12 but still they are all in the later gen. still nice to see who her ancestors are to __________________ Skeeta&Bella Max & Sam member's of the little gentlemens club R.I.P my little Chiquita Words can be like weapons so please be kind when you post

01-31-2008, 04:49 PM	#9
Sugar's Mom BANNED! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 9,248	sam also has champions but they are in the fourth and fifth generation. go to my website and find my "Future Dam' ms. sadie, the pedigree that is on there is Sam's pedigree. She is a kid from a previous litter of Kandy and Ceeby so he has exactly the same pedigree.