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Question about suspention list Hi ~ thought this would be the best place to ask this. I was wondering what reasons a the AKC might suspend someone. My friend is also looking for a yorkie, and when I checked the suspension list, the breeder was on there. The reason stated was something about not allowing her paperwork to be checked. My friend has already put a deposit down, and is wondering if this automatically means they are a bad breeder. She asked the breeder about it, but wasn't really given an answer. She is in love with the little puppy and said that since she isnt going to show or breed, does it really matter if the puppy has AKC papers. What are other breeders thoughts on this. |
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Several reasons for being suspended. Sounds like she breeds on a pretty large scale. Since AKC doesn't come to inspect breeders, unless the breed I think an average of 10 litters a year...what has happened here is that AKC came to inspect and asked for her records....she wouldn't allow it....something to hide maybe??????....that would be the only reason in my opinion why someone would refuse AKC to look at the papers. |
Akc A reputable breeder will allow the AKC to inspect dogs and records under all circumstances...if they find anything amiss, AKC is very reasonable and it is corrected..sometimes records can be outdated or poorly kept..but AKC will give you time to amend it, they only suspend when the breeder refuses to comply to the simpliest of requirements IMO... |
If a breeder knows this and has not been honest with their registration, couldn't they just keep two sets of books? |
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I guess nothing is impossible. However, I'm not sure you could do that, AKC papers are not duplicate copies and in order to keep seperate books and you'd have to duplicate (xerox) the other set.....I'm just not getting how that can be accomplished........ |
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Well I have no idea what records one has to keep. But if they are papers from the AKC, what would you have to hide? What I was getting at is that if you were not honest about the parents to the AKC, you might keep a separate set with the true breedings in it for your own records. What sort of recodrs do you need to keep and what would be the reason for not letting the AKC see them. If they are papers from the AKC, then the AKC already have those records. I'm confused too. |
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There are several records you keep, AKC registrations, DNA certificates, Stud Records, Whelping Records, Litter Registrations, Bill of Sales Records, Contracts, Some documents are from AKC others records should be kept by the breeder.....they want to see how accurate everything is and nothing is left to question as incorrect info on litters, puppies, etc. Since you're a breeder, it maybe to your benefit to begin your record keeping.....you just never know when those guys will zoom down on you. |
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I guess I should contact the AKC and get this information. |
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I told my friend eventhough she is only looking for a pet and not a show dog, she should still make sure she is getting a well-breed puppy from someone who isn't just breeding to breed. |
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No magic #, best to start as soon as possible, so it won't creep up on you. |
Akc It is so simply..if the parents are AKC and have ID's as required, male is DNA'ed, you know the stud of the litter, record info, register the litter, record the info as to who bought the puppies..then that is all AKC wants to look at.. You could have all the info recorded on a brown paper bag and they will still work with you...just so you have all the info and are polite to them. AKC likes to help breeders. They will give you the proper recording papers to put in a notebook..show you exactly how to do everything and even give you 90 days to comply...but you better do it or get suspended the next time... |
Akc When I started you would never get inspected unless you had 10 litters or more per year...then it went to 7...now they have amended it again...4 to 6 if I am correct...BUT when I had an inspection, I had 4 litters (in a 10 litter yr limit) and the second time I only had 3...my Maltese friend only had ONE litter that year and got an inspection the week of Christmas...AKC said they have no set number and sometimes you name comes up like an IRS audit... If you co-own a stud or bitch and it lives with the co-owner, YOU are still considered an owner and must keep the same records..who uses the stud, puppies etc...so be careful who you co-own with, if they go down, you go down with them..there is nothing to fear, just keep decent records from day one...ID dogs and DNA studs...and if they show up, smile and offer them coffee..LOL |
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Absolutely, But, they could come in and just check 1 or 2 records. Make sure that all your crates have info on them for each dog. BD, DNA, Microchip, Age, AKC Registered Name and Sire & Dam. Each of my x-pens have the information for each dog on them. I even keep information on the dogs I handle here. |
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I had planned to print out some records from the internet or to creat my own. Under what circumstances does a breeder have to have their kennel registered with the AKC, and what all does that entail? |
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Registering your Kennel name is basically up to you. Not required, but nice to have. There is a minimum on the litters you have. There is a software package I use for keeping records, "The Breeders Standard" absolutely great. It even does coefficients, helping you plan your breeding, so you aren't breeding too close. You can also purchase as an ad on a fancy shmancy pedigree producer. |
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