Should she have puppies?
 

Hi my baby just went into heat a week ago. This is her first time. She's 10 months old. I have a friend that has a boy and we were talking today about letting them. . .you know and let my baby have puppies. Her boy is 6 months old but he seems to be very sexually active already with his toys :D

I have some questions about this whole process.

A. My girl is 10 months. Her boy is 6 months. Are they mature enough? If not, how old enough should they be when they first make doggy love?

B. How does the whole giving of puppies work? My mom told me that the rule of thumb is the owner of the stud gets one puppy and I keep the rest. Is this true? I talked to my friend and she says she only wants a puppy to keep her boy company and I want to keep a puppy for the exact same reason. Here are some situations. If my girl has only one puppy, who keeps the puppy, the owner of the female or the owner of the stud? If she wants a boy and Cindy only has 2 girls (for example) what is supposed to happen? Are there any rules about this? If so, can you tell me so that I know? This won't be any breeding like professionally or anything. She's just a friend who has a stud and we decided to let our babies have puppies so we won't get into any legal stuff like suing each other I just want to know out of curiosity.

C. I'm all for natural birth and all. I have a Lab who has given birth 6 times and has done it all by herself without me even touching her. I want it to be the same for Cindy. I know that she has motherly instincts and that she knows what to do and all I have to do is provide a cozy nest for her litter. I will take her to the vet if I see anything weird going on or just to check her right before she gives birth.

D. Cindy's litter could not be registered with the AKC because one of her parents was not registered. Her husband-to-be IS registered with the AKC. She's really small. 4 lbs last time I weighed her. The stud is smaller than her and weighs in at at 3.5 lbs. Since she's not registered, I know I can't register the litter so the puppies will not be sold at the price that a registered Yorkie would be. The puppies SHOULD be really small since both parents are small so I don't plan on having the prices lower than 700.

E. What are some important things that I should know before I make the decision to let Cindy have puppies?

Here are pictures of Cindy (1st picture) and her boyfriend (2nd picture).

Don't breed them.

She's too small, too young, and not papered.

Don't do it.

Too small? If she was too small to breed then she wouldn't be alive because her parents are smaller than her so that would mean they were too small to breed too. Maybe too young but not too small. She's already and adult though.

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Your girl is only 10 months..she should not be bred the first heat and not to a 6 month old puppy dog. If you insist on breeding her..then spend the next 6 months learning all you can to insure the health and well being of your little mommie and her future litter. You will hear lots of hellish stories of dead bitches, lost pups and vet bills a mile long...it can happens and often does on a daily basis..but all can go well also..it just depends on how much of a risk taker you are...

PS..large dog whelping is nothing like toy dog whelping...if a puppy gets stuck in a large breed you can put you hand inside and pull out the pup...in a small Yorkie you can barely get a finger in to help them out...prepare and learn...don't let your bitch down.

Most reputable breeders will not breed a female that is under 5 pounds. It poses too much of a risk to her.

She is to young and to small, They are both still baby's their self.

My BElla is 6mos old, CKC registered, and 4.15lbs. She is also, in my opinion, a beautiful dog. I would NEVER consider breeding her. In fact, I am going to pick her up from being spayed right now. Did you have a spay/neuter contract in your purchase?? Please reconsider and don't breed your pup:(

As for the weight, I will weigh her tomorrow because last time i weighed her was 2 months ago and she weighed 4.3. She could be 5 now. I'm really sad seeing all that is being said about breeding. I really wanted my baby to have some puppies so that she can experience being a mom at least once. I will definitely wait until the boy is a year old so at the time she will be a year and a half. I think that is mature enough for both. I would never spay my baby. It's like asking a women to take out her ovaries when she's 12. Like I stated before, I believe in nature. If I don't get her spayed that means that I should let her have puppies so that her risk of getting breast cancer lowers. Now that you scared me enough, I will be planning to take her to the vet more often while in the pregnancy and I will take her before I breed her to get the vet's opinion on whether she is healthy and ready to breed. But all that will be in 6 months. Thank you for your opinions.

:p Hi, I have a almost two year old female Yorkie I bred with my male. She weighs in at just over 4 lbs. and my male at 3 lbs. My female ended up in the hospital with an emergency c-section and it cost me over $2,000- to pay the bill and they would not preform any surgery until I paid the bill in full. My girl had to be fixed in the process of it all and two puppies did not make it through the ordeal. My Trini could have died! and so can your baby. I am still planning to breed because it is my passion and I recently purchased a puppy female, who should grow to be over 5lbs. I am going to skip her first heat and maybe her second because I was informed that she should be at least 1 1/2 to 2 years old before I breed her and I will spend the next year while she is maturing doing even more research on breeding Yorkies. (I have honestly put in a few hundred hours already) Be careful...do not do it yet!

She is too young, he is too young! You should consider having her spayed and your friend's neutered. Having a litter of puppies, just to have a litter of puppies or because you think they are cute or that you might make some money is not a reason to breed. They cannot be registered and there's no way at this time to even know if they will come close to meeting the breed standard. Breeding should only be done after much research and testing and by registered dogs. Please there are too many Yorkies that wind up in rescues as it is. And, your poor Lab, hope she isn't having any more babies..6 litters is more than enough. Just enjoy everything a Yorkie can bring to you life. JMO

Thanks for the warning. I can't believe I thought about breeding her now *smacks forehead*.
I will wait until she's 1 and a half years old. I guess I was overwhelmed with the thought of having miniCindies around. I will definitely do way more research on breeding. She's not that small to the point where breeding would be dangerous. I will still go to a Breeder and vet to get two expert opinions and a check up to make sure she's good for breeding when the time comes.

Well you can search this forum for all the people that have had bitches die in whelp and decide if you can handle that.
You have no idea about her background and although the male is AKC registered you have no idea about any genetic problems either or both may be carrying although they don't exhibit anything so far.
I would encourage you to enjoy her for the pet you bought her as.
Vet bill can be about $1500 or more for a csection if necessary. Then there are more Vet visits especially since you have no idea what you are doing and will be putting both your girl and any possible puppies at very high risk for death.

My lab is perfectly fine. I don't breed her, she just ends up pregnant when dogs get into my backyard.

I don't want her to have puppies just because they are cute or because I want some cash. All female beings have a biological desire to breed. I can't just take that away from her by spaying her. I love my baby too much to deprive her of that. Please DO NOT keep asking me to spay her because there is no way I will.

Yes I have read all the benefits of spaying. Yes I know she will live longer. But I rather her be happy than live a longer life sad and altered because YES you ARE altering your dogs not for them but for yourselves. I find that foolish of pet owners. I want my baby to experience the miracle of birth and I know there is always a risk. Women are at risk when they get pregnant (and don't tell me they aren't) but they still give birth not because It's pretty but because they are biologically programmed to want to and because birth i a beautiful thing. I repeat this again, I will NOT deprive my baby of that feeling. I know there are risks and I will take them and take care of her.

As for the "cute" comment. I don't care if her babies come out deformed. I know dogs end up in pounds. That's why I always tell the people I give my lab's puppies away to, "If you cannot keep him/her, return them back to me and I will take care of them until I meet a person who needs/wants one."

I'm doing this for my baby not for me or because it is cute. Once again, I'm not spaying her so don't suggest it again.

Thank you.

People listen to yourselves. This forum sure has changed since i've been gone. I can't believe you just said that. My Cindy is not property. She's my loving companion. You people are just sad. How can you even think that?

I never really thought anyone would still be in existence that would be this uninformed and uneducated in the responsibilities of pet ownership. Shows you what I know. I shouldn't be surprised I guess. Now I remember why I won't sell a dog or puppy without spay/neuter being done before it leaves.
I am so sorry you managed to find someone that sold you that poor girl you have.

I think it is great that you are checking things out before making a decision to breed your dog. Here is a good guide to go by -- the YTCA code of ethics and code of conduct. http://ytca.org/frame_index2.html

I think most would think it is not the best decision to breed an unregistered dog. She is also too young. The second heat, 18 months and over 5 pounds is generally recognized as what is safe for the Mother, who otherwise meets breeding criteria. Some females that weigh less than that can get an okay from their vets for safe breeding. The weight itself is not nearly as important as the size and measurements of potential birth canal and other health considerations. A thin, larger bone structured dog can more safely have puppies than a fat, tiny-boned one. Many 4 pound females safely have litters.

You should also review the Yorkshire Terrier standard and determine if the dogs meet the criteria. Then it is helpful to have a person experienced in judging Yorkshire Terriers evaluate the dogs to see if they are good representatives of the breed. We all love our little ones and think they are the cutest ever -- but that does not mean they should be bred.

Both dogs should be tested for infectious and hereditary disease -- appearing healthy and carrying dangerous traits that could be passed on are quite different. While at the vet, get his/her take on the physical safety of breeding your girl. Some females, even in standard, cannot safely be bred.

Natural childbirth can be great, but what happens if the pups grow larger than your female's birth canal? They won't be able to pass without killing her. So, are you prepared for C-section? Do you have a couple of thou saved aside in the event of trouble? That is not uncommon with Yorkies, especially small females.

No one should breed dogs without copious studying! You need to know what to do. As you already heard, whelping big dogs like labs is nothing like our little toys! I have been reading for several months and am no where near ready. I won't breed until I feel I am. Since mine are still puppies I have lots of time. My first AKC registered Yorkie female turned out to not be within standards, so we spayed her and loved her as a pet only. We are very hopeful about our little Sadie! :) So far everything is looking great. But I won't know for a few more months. Just letting you know all this last part so you understand not all dogs, even if they were registered should be bred.

You do have a pretty little girl there! But I would look into spaying her.

"all I have to do is provide a cozy nest for her litter"

yep, that's all there is to it.....:embarasse

Didn't we go thru this a few months ago with you about breeding your female?

If she is your loving companion, then think of her as such. Breeding her because you think that's what she was meant to do, because she's a bitch. I wasn't put on this earth just to have babies and I don't think she was either. Hey! I had my ovaries taken out at a very young age......didn't miss anything about them, as a matter of fact I felt it was a blessing, didn't have to mess with that monthly thing.....

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[QUOTE=Felix101]... I don't breed her, she just ends up pregnant when dogs get into my backyard.

......Yes I have read all the benefits of spaying. Yes I know she will live longer. But I rather her be happy than live a longer life sad and altered because YES you ARE altering your dogs not for them but for yourselves. I find that foolish of pet owners. I want my baby to experience the miracle of birth and I know there is always a risk. Women are at risk when they get pregnant (and don't tell me they aren't) but they still give birth not because It's pretty but because they are biologically programmed to want to and because birth i a beautiful thing. I repeat this again, I will NOT deprive my baby of that feeling. I know there are risks and I will take them and take care of her.

As for the "cute" comment. I don't care if her babies come out deformed. I know dogs end up in pounds. That's why I always tell the people I give my lab's puppies away to, "If you cannot keep him/her, return them back to me and I will take care of them until I meet a person who needs/wants one."

I'm doing this for my baby not for me or because it is cute. Once again, I'm not spaying her so don't suggest it again.
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I should read a thread all the way through before I post -- this is the most irrepsonsible post I have ever read. I thought someone was really checking into breeding before making an unwise decision. :( I cannot believe someone would admit that they let their dog get pregnant from any old dog who happens to come in their yard and does not care if puppies come out deformed. They need to stop licensing dogs and start licensing owners before they are allowed to have a dog!!!!

I find your post very offensive.

I believe you misunderstood. Nobody is implying your dog is your property but her happiness and safety is your responsibility. It is not in her best interest to have puppies right now and maybe never. You asked for our opinions and you do not like the answer, it is not fair to lash out. When you buy a dog it can be "pet quality", "breeding quality", "show quality", etc. Your baby is not registered, she is small (so is mine) and she should not have been sold to you as a breeding female (and she probably was not). I understand every being is pre-designed and has the instinct to multiply but if the doctor told a woman it is too dangerous for her circumstances to have children, usually she would listen. It is your responsibility to make the right decision for her. Do not let her down.

If you do decide to breed her, I suggest you save some money during the nine weeks her pregnancy lasts, in case of an emergency in whelping you will need it, trust me, at least $2,000- IMO.

I also want to add I love all dogs pure-breed or not but there are so many dogs "accidentally getting pregnant" that people should not purposely breed any dogs without papers and knowledge of hat dog's particular background. (Do not give the multi-racial/cultural comment please...it is not the same.)

And BTW- You need to fix your poor Lab also...sorry!

[QUOTE=FlDebra][QUOTE=Felix101]... I don't breed her, she just ends up pregnant when dogs get into my backyard.

......Yes I have read all the benefits of spaying. Yes I know she will live longer. But I rather her be happy than live a longer life sad and altered because YES you ARE altering your dogs not for them but for yourselves. I find that foolish of pet owners. I want my baby to experience the miracle of birth and I know there is always a risk. Women are at risk when they get pregnant (and don't tell me they aren't) but they still give birth not because It's pretty but because they are biologically programmed to want to and because birth i a beautiful thing. I repeat this again, I will NOT deprive my baby of that feeling. I know there are risks and I will take them and take care of her.

As for the "cute" comment. I don't care if her babies come out deformed. I know dogs end up in pounds. That's why I always tell the people I give my lab's puppies away to, "If you cannot keep him/her, return them back to me and I will take care of them until I meet a person who needs/wants one."

I'm doing this for my baby not for me or because it is cute. Once again, I'm not spaying her so don't suggest it again.
I agree it is one of the most irresponsible things I have heard on this forum and I have been here over 2 years and have probably heard it all

Hi my baby just went into heat a week ago. This is her first time. She's 10 months old. I have a friend that has a boy and we were talking today about letting them. . .you know and let my baby have puppies. Her boy is 6 months old but he seems to be very sexually active already with his toys :D

I have some questions about this whole process.

A. My girl is 10 months. Her boy is 6 months. Are they mature enough? If not, how old enough should they be when they first make doggy love? No, they are not old enough. Letting her get pregnant now would be like a 14 year old girl getting pregnant. You girl still has growing to do.

B. How does the whole giving of puppies work? My mom told me that the rule of thumb is the owner of the stud gets one puppy and I keep the rest. Is this true? I talked to my friend and she says she only wants a puppy to keep her boy company and I want to keep a puppy for the exact same reason. Here are some situations. If my girl has only one puppy, who keeps the puppy, the owner of the female or the owner of the stud? If she wants a boy and Cindy only has 2 girls (for example) what is supposed to happen? Are there any rules about this? If so, can you tell me so that I know? This won't be any breeding like professionally or anything. She's just a friend who has a stud and we decided to let our babies have puppies so we won't get into any legal stuff like suing each other I just want to know out of curiosity. There are no rules except what you and the stud breeder decide.

C. I'm all for natural birth and all. I have a Lab who has given birth 6 times and has done it all by herself without me even touching her. I want it to be the same for Cindy. I know that she has motherly instincts and that she knows what to do and all I have to do is provide a cozy nest for her litter. I will take her to the vet if I see anything weird going on or just to check her right before she gives birth. Natural birthing is the best but your girl is to tiny and will possibly have to have a c-section. Just because your girl and this little boy are small does NOT mean that they will product tiny pups.

D. Cindy's litter could not be registered with the AKC because one of her parents was not registered. Her husband-to-be IS registered with the AKC. She's really small. 4 lbs last time I weighed her. The stud is smaller than her and weighs in at at 3.5 lbs. Since she's not registered, I know I can't register the litter so the puppies will not be sold at the price that a registered Yorkie would be. The puppies SHOULD be really small since both parents are small so I don't plan on having the prices lower than 700. You can get small puppies that are cheaper than what you are asking and they ARE papered. Why would you want to sell puppies that aren't papered? You could go down to the local shelter for that. Unpapered yorkies run just a couple of hundred dollars...size isn't a determining factor in that.

E. What are some important things that I should know before I make the decision to let Cindy have puppies?

Here are pictures of Cindy (1st picture) and her boyfriend (2nd picture

Your girl is entirely too small. You haven't done enough research (at least it looks that way from your posts). If I were you, I'd rethink this entirely.

You said you are still in school? High School? Just curious...:confused:

[QUOTE=Felix101]My lab is perfectly fine. I don't breed her, she just ends up pregnant when dogs get into my backyard. That's really nice!:thumbdown

I don't want her to have puppies just because they are cute or because I want some cash. Then why did you say you won't be asking less than $700?All female beings have a biological desire to breed. I can't just take that away from her by spaying her. Some humans have that same drive but that doesn't mean that every human should breed either!I love my baby too much to deprive her of that. Please DO NOT keep asking me to spay her because there is no way I will. Then you've already made up your mind.

Yes I have read all the benefits of spaying. Yes I know she will live longer. But I rather her be happy than live a longer life sad and altered because YES you ARE altering your dogs not for them but for yourselves. I find that foolish of pet owners. I think IMO that letting a dog breed just because a human thinks her dog wants to is foolish.I want my baby to experience the miracle of birth and I know there is always a risk. Women are at risk when they get pregnant (and don't tell me they aren't) but they still give birth not because It's pretty but because they are biologically programmed to want to and because birth i a beautiful thing. I repeat this again, I will NOT deprive my baby of that feeling. I know there are risks and I will take them and take care of her.

As for the "cute" comment. I don't care if her babies come out deformed. Another nice statement. I know dogs end up in pounds. That's why I always tell the people I give my lab's puppies away to, "If you cannot keep him/her, return them back to me and I will take care of them until I meet a person who needs/wants one."

I'm doing this for my baby not for me or because it is cute. Once again, I'm not spaying her so don't suggest it again.

Thank you.

No I think she is completely serious since this is the 2nd thread she has started on breeding her dog

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Now, you did it...your poor Lab has had 6 litter because it is her desire to reproduce??? IT is YOUR responsibility as a pet owner to do what is best for your dogs..and allowing males to impregnate her over and over is not LOVE..it is "I do not give a dam about my dogs well being"...plain and simple..if you truly loved your LAb you would not leave her in the yard while she was in heat and subject her to disease and repeated whelpings..her body will eventually give out and her health will fail...
Do whatever you want with your Yorkie..I ask God to watch over her and she does not suffer from the stupity of her owner.

Just to clear up any confusion about doggie instincts, just because they are female does not mean they have instincts to be a mommy :rolleyes: that is just mistaken for pure human greediness for money, at any cost, regardless of if the bitch dies or the puppies have health problems, especially since they cant be registered so God only knows what is in the lineage. I guess this is how puppy mills get started huh? Sorry to say but this original poster must be one of the most irresponsible pet owners I've ever heard of. Who lets their poor dog get pregnant by neighborhood mutts??? Pets are not meant to be used as cash cows and contrary to your thoughts, females DO NOT care to have puppies and put their instincts to use. They quite enjoy being spoiled princesses. This poor yorkie girl. Thank you to all of the reputable breeders out there who do not sell their babies to owners like this.