Do all puppies have worms????
 

:eek: Im new at breeding dog (my first litter) and last week my puppies were 4 weeks old so i took them to get dewormed. the vet confirmed that they had worms and gave them medicine for it. well right after i droped the puppies off at the house and my husband and i went to dinner and a movie. we were gone about 4 hours. the first thing i did when i got home was check on the puppies. i forgot to mention i have a worm phobia. well i never really thought about the word DEWORM untill that day. i almost had a heart attack there were 2 piles of what looked like rubber bands on the floor. i was shaking, sweating, screaming im telling you i was practically in cardiac arrest at the ripe old age of 28. my husband had to get rid of them. anyways what i wanted to know was do all puppies have worms?????? If so i think this will be my last litter. :fainted:

Our puppies have yet to have worms (fingers crossed). We get the mother tested before she is expecting and again before she has puppies - always negative. We do have her on heartworm w/wormer so I don't know if that's it or not although I have heard that it is pretty usual to have your puppies have worms. Ours have always came back with negative on the fecal tests. Perhaps others can help more?

Everything you read says that yes, like 90% of pups are born with worms, but that hasn't been the case with any of my litters. I always take a fecal samples of Moms about a week after whelping. If she has worms then, and only then, do I treat the puppies. I again take fecal samples of the pups at 8 weeks (sooner if they look like they have a potbelly) to be sure they don't have them or have gotten rid of them if I have done worming treatments.

Worms can be dormant in the lining of the mother's intestines and don't become active until the later stages of pregnancy and then are passed on to the pups through the milk. So even if you worm your mom prior to pregnancy and she has a negative test for worms prior to pregnancy, there is still a chance the pups can have worms.

Did your vet instruct you to come back for another worming treatment? Also did you treat the Mom? If not, they will just pass them back and forth?

i am faithful with the heartworm medicine and of course it takes care of other worms for the mom. just seeing a pile of worms after the deworming is something i will never forget!!!!!!!!!

I'm almost 100% sure the pups got the worms from the Mom so apparently the heartworm medicine isn't working and she needs to be wormed also.

i asked the vet if the mom should be dewormed and he said no because she is on the heartworm prevention and that will take care of moms worms so i assume it means mom is immune from worms??? i dont know just trying to make it make sense. mom likes to dig and i think that is how she gets it. being such a worm freak, i did ask if i should deworm the mom and i was told no.

I am sure the vet knows more than I do. Maybe the heartworm meds kill the adult worms, but are not effective against the larvae stages which is what migrates through the milk.

Curious did you see any signs of worms, like a pot belly at 4 weeks? Also did your vet say you were going to repeat the treatment again at 6, 8 and 10 weeks?

I have a question. You said you dewormed the mother dog if she had worms before she had the pups. Is this safe?? It won't hurt the puppies she has in her?? I would like to use as few chemicals as possible. I know flea medicine is a big no and heartworm medicine is debatable for some. Just curious whether deworming the mother dog is 100% safe for the puppy's she is carrying.
Also, this might be a stupid question, but how do they pick up the worms?? If the mother is dewormed regualarly and has been tested negative for worms and lives in a clean environment how are the puppies born with worms??:confused:

My pups have never had worms either. I also feel very blessed about that. I think your Mamma dog would have to have worms....there really isn't another way for your pups to get them unless they are around other animals (which they shouldn't be at that age). I'd give the vet a call and ask him how your pups could have worms if the mother doesn't. I can imagine how freaked out you were:eek: ! I'd freak too! Hope your pups are all healthy and you never enounter another worm:) .

P.S. Keep their area very clean and don't take them outside yet.

Hee hee hee....

Hummmmmmm I bet going fishing and baiting your own hook is out of the question for you!!:D

We havent had many worms and fortunately when we did it was usually just a single rubberband.:) not a pile of them. That was quite awhile ago too, before I wormed mom right before mating.
I dont get fecal exams with puppies so I routinely worm with panacur for 3 days also. Havent seen a worm in quite awhile.
I havent a worm phobia but I hate snakes! Good thing puppies dont poop snakes.
Your post made me laugh!

worms
 

The bitch can have a negative stool check and still pass worm larva to the pups..the worm larva lays dormant in the systems of some bitches and under stress..such as breeding, whelping, nursing, they are transmitted...read about worms and breeding.

I had them with a litter of Doxies once..but the Yorks never got them..I had the Doxie dewormed even though the stool was negative before each breeding..kept her on heart worms med and no other litters got them. It does not hurt to worm a bitch BEFORE breeding. I am not in favor or rountine worming of pusp without a stool check..no worms, no worming.

No, not all puppies have worms.

explained to me by my vet......if the bitch has ever had worms, eggs lay dormit in the womb. once the pups are born, they can come out with worms. the bitch can get worms again due to the fact they eat their waste. even if the bitch test neg, the pups can still get worms.

I understand when one doesnt treat when a puppy isnt positive for worms. That makes perfect sense.
But truthfully when I treat with panacur, It has a triple purpose.
It helps me possibly safeguard the puppies and new owners from parasites, protozoa and maybe allergic reactions before they leave here.
Panacur is also a treatment against giardia. Have I ever had giardia here? No. But I live within 2 miles of the wabash river, which floods out of its banks into the farmland a few times a year. So its not uncommon for there to be standing water not far from here. Do my yorkies have excess to the water? No they dont and they dont drink from stagnant dirty water either.
Its just a precaution I feel good about. If they have a reaction to the medications given here too, then its possibly they may have a liver problem.
I have attached a couple links. The table below is a table insert I found at this link http://www.priory.com/vet/giardia.htm


http://www.thepetcenter.com/exa/gia.html

Treatments for Giardias in dogs
Drug Name Trade Name Dose Rate Duration of
Treatment
Metronidazole Flagyl 25-30 mg/kg bid** 7 days
Furazolidone Neftin 4 mg/kg bid* 10 days
Tinadazole - 44 mg/kg once daily 7 days
Fenbendazole Panacur *** 50 mg/kg once daily 3 days
Albendazole Valbazen 25 mg/kg bid 2 days

Im sure not everyone would agree with what I do. But I feel good about it.

That is exactly what my vet told me when I asked about my current litter. I ahven't wormed them yet. They will be 8 weeks old.

the mom likes to dig and months before even getting pregnant i saw 2 little worms in one of my yorkies poop(i have 3 adult yorkies). after scrubbing my skin in the shower for over 30 min. and daytime flashbacks of poop with 2 little worms which i could draw onto paper exactly what i saw even many hours later i spent 50.00 for deworming pills for all 3 yorkies. i had just given them their heartworm medicine 2 days earlier and i was told by the vet that the heartworm prevention is probably what made the worms come out. (after that incident i have become faithful with the heartworm prevention) The mom was never pregnant and dewormed but she did get the heartworm prevention while preg. the vet and directions on the box said it was okay to use on a preg dog.
i have 2 pups one boy and one girl they are now 6 weeks. the boy did have a potbelly at 4 weeks, i thought he was just fat but reading some entries on YT (wonderful site) i was almost positive it was worms. i kind of didnt want to bring him to the vet (you know, what you dont know wont hurt you). anyways they are 6 weeks now an look soooo cute their bellies look regular now although i need to bring them back to the vet. ill do it tomorrow after work. my husdand works night so if there are worms like last time i dont know what i will do. there is no way i will be able to clean them up!!!!!!!!!!

Your mom dog could easily not have worms, because she is on HW (which do you use by the way?) I assume these are round worms, which can easily be picked up on her feet when she goes outside, she licks her feet, licks the babies, voila, round worms. It is normal practice for breeders to worm their pups, whether the mother has worms or not. The ONLY time you wouldn't have to do that is if your dogs live in individual kennels, and never go outside.

I have never heard of an adverse affect of wormer on pups (for rounds not tapes), therefore I have no problem worming them with or without fecal confirmation of worms. Now if I hear of any reported problems, I will change my philosophy.

What is the best wormer to use and where can I purchase it? How much do you give them? My pups do not have the pot belly and mom was on HW.

Here is the one I use, and a link to order...

http://www.jefferspet.com/ssc/produc...231&cmkw=nemex

THANK YOU !!! :D

my pups are 6 weeks old and i took them to the vet today no worms!!!!!!!!!! yaaaaayah. again i asked the vet if i could get a pill for the mom just in case and he said if she is on heartworm prevenative she doesnt need it. by the way the worms were round worms if you do a search on the internet for roundworms i tell you it looked just like the pic. i have no problems playing with my babies now that i know they are clean:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :D

ooooooooooooooh the horror!!!!!!!!!!! my vet lied to me. he said no worms. i got home gave them their hearworm prevention for the first time and 4 hours later surprise surprise! my husband is not home so i took the puppies out of the bathroom and put them in a box in the living room. i had to shut the bathroom door and put something in front of the bathroom door just in case some miricle happens and the door opens itself. yessss i am turning into a nutcase because of these worms. i just ordered nemex 2 online tonight. i hope it comes soon!!!!:confuse8: :fainted: :fainted: :fainted:

Is it safe to give heartworm meds so young????
Nemex II is safe for puppies and lacatating moms, but the active ingredient is pyrantal pamoate which you can buy over the counter at Petsmart in Lambert Kay Evict DS.

I had never heard of a single treatment working that's why I asked if the vet scheduled you to come back for another treatment. Usually they do it every 2 weeks until 10 weeks old and also the treat the Mom. Keep the stools cleaned up in the yard and change the potty pads after every bowel movement.

the vet gave me interceptor the directions said it can be used on puppies over 6 weeks my puppies are 6 weeks and 3 days. man this is a real pain so reading all the replys im gonna try nemex 2 on my own. are the meds from pet smart just as good as the ones you can get from the vet. someone told me the meds for deworming from walmart really didnt work. the rumor around town is the vet i have been taking my puppies to is the most expensive but worth it. im starting to question it.

Interceptor is for the prevention of heartworms, NOT worms found in the intestine. Plus, vets are supposed to perform a test for heartworms before the preventative is given and is NOT an effective preventative or treatment for roundworms, hookworms, etc.

Not sure where you are getting your info, but here is info from the Interceptor Novartis website..http://www.interceptor.novartis.us/

INTERCEPTOR Flavor Tabs for dogs prevent deadly heartworm disease, while protecting your dog against roundworms (Toxocara canis, Toxascaris leonina), hookworms (Ancylostoma caninum) and whipworms (Trichuris vulpis).


INTERCEPTOR Flavor Tabs for cats are the only oral monthly preventative that protect against heartworms (Dirofilaria immitis) and remove adult roundworms (Toxocara cati) and adult hookworms (Ancylostoma tubaeforme).


As with other heartworm preventatives, pets must be tested for heartworms prior to using INTERCEPTOR Flavor Tabs. In a small percentage of treated dogs, digestive and neurological side effects may occur. In cats, safety studies at up to 10 times the label dose did not detect any adverse drug reactions.


Click HERE for full product information.

It is only effective in getting rid of them in the adult stage of life. However, it is not effective in guarding them against passing it on to other dogs or from the effects of the worms during their non-adult phases of life. These complications and the ability to pass them onto other animals, including humans, can begin very early in pups. I seriously doubt it is a good idea to begin a pup on heartworm medication at 2-3 weeks of age.
Just because Interceptor treats and prevents adult worms in dogs, doesn't mean they can't still carry and pass on the eggs an larvae, thus spreading infestation. (Heartworms can't be passed by means of feces...the worms' full life cycle is within the heart/blood stream.) So no, it is NOT an effective preventative.