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chachi 03-28-2006 12:49 PM
He was a very tiny 1 lb at 6 weeks. He bipassed all, the growth chart predictions. My breeder said he would be about 5 lbs. I have another female who was 12 oz at 8 weeks and the growth charts said she would be 3lbs and she is 6 so sometimes you just don t know.

lisatodd 03-28-2006 12:55 PM
the same thing happened to me....i was told my puppy would not get very large and he is much bigger than what they told me. the vet advised you cant tell what size the puppy will be unless you have "seen" the generation prior (and pedigree does not tell the lbs) vet adv me if you have two small parents, that is no guarentee the puppy will be that size.

Yorkster 03-28-2006 01:06 PM
Not just that generation but 3 generations back.

50 percent from parents
25 percent from grandparents
12 percent from g grandparents
Could have had a grandparent that was a whopper.

Danger of breeding a small dog when you don't know what is in the background could have 3 small pups and a large one. If the large one comes first, may present problems.
Sometimes there is a lot of variety in weight in litters could come from a number of reasons.

Large and small most of the time, are in the genes.

luvdorkyyorkies 03-28-2006 01:11 PM
Very enlightening that this happens so frequently.
I breed yorkies but only for three years now. I havent had these kind of way off weights, they tend to stay pretty close to the weight scale....I have been off but never (so far!!!) by more then a lb (that I know of). I have never had a puppy grow double or triple what I estimated but you all are proof it can happen. Some of the babies that have homes are young too so who knows they may take off and be as big as a great dane at adulthood...........haha :D ......Lord I hope not!
Anyway weights are always a guessimate, its nice to know others experiences because they are much different then mine so far.
I feel kinda bad because I didnt discourage the purchaser from pursuing action if she felt she was lied to. I still doubt the parentage of the puppy but I only know what Ive been told and I dont know the breeders story.

chachi 03-28-2006 01:22 PM
Since she is a breeder it seems like she would know the grandparent weights also so If its not the parents who were bigger but the grandparents she has still been deceitful.

I love Lucy 03-28-2006 11:12 PM
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I am just learning too, but I can tell you that you have most definatly lucked out by finding this place. I have been here a little over a month, and now my family thinks I am some kind of Yorkie expert! LOL I can't stop quoting all the info I find on here. I'm sure they think I am just a know it all, and my husband thinks I am crazy because every time he sees me on my lap top I am on YT. Anyways welcome, and you will love it here. Oh, and I feel the same as you, so you are not an outcast at all!!!
Ha ha, I too am addicted to this website. I kind of feel like a freak sometimes but hey atleast I know all of you are too, if I am for being so into my Yorkie. Ha ha ha and I am learning sooo much it is soo neat.

I love Lucy 03-28-2006 11:17 PM
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I wanted to ease your mind here. There are still so many people out there that don't know about puppymills and pet stores. I didn't till I came online. So at one time I thought selling to a pet store was a good thing and probably would of done it thinking nothing of it. the books you buy to breed don't all say anything about pets stores and puppymills. So actually there are alot of breeders out there that sell their pups to pet stores thinking nothing of it and these breeders could be good breeders but never have got online to know the differnece. I knew a lady that bred and when she was a teen she had shown her dogs so she knew the standard. Well when she was showing puppy mills weren't talked about or even known as much back then so when she got older she quit showing and just became a hobby breeder. So she sold to pet stores thinking nothing of it for years. Well she now has learned about puppymills so she will no longer sell to pet stores but I can tell you this she knows all about quality and breeding to the standard. So there are hobby breeders out there that don't know what we know. If you know nothing about a computer than nine times out of ten you won't run into as much info as you can on here. So your pet may of come from one of those breeders. I know the chance is greater than she came from a mill but not a hundred percent.
Thanks for your reply. I do hope she came from not a terrible place or a totally depleted undernourished mom....but who knows...I can only hope for the best. I am kinda worried, I wonder if I should ask to take those acid bile/saliva tests or other test to see if she has bad genes? She is 3 now and in good health and I try to feed her very good quality food.? Also I don't get how she or pet stores can get an AKC registration for them??

Tashasmom 03-29-2006 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by I love Lucy
Thanks for your reply. I do hope she came from not a terrible place or a totally depleted undernourished mom....but who knows...I can only hope for the best. I am kinda worried, I wonder if I should ask to take those acid bile/saliva tests or other test to see if she has bad genes? She is 3 now and in good health and I try to feed her very good quality food.? Also I don't get how she or pet stores can get an AKC registration for them??
If she's 3 and still healthy I wouldn't worry about it. Anyone can get akc papers. It's not hard at all. They do have stipulations but you'd be surprised at the people that get around those. Just cause your dog is akc doesn't mean anything more than that. Thats why when purchasing a pet you should see their pedigree, buy from a breeder that knows her line and will guarantee her dog. But not everyone knows this and it's not their fault that they don't. Thats why it's so important for everyone to educate anyone they know that is planning on buying a pet. This site is excellent at that..I wish it was mandatory that pet owners go to a place like this before they buy a pet.


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