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yorkiegal719 03-19-2006 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s
I really don't care anymore. I don't own one and probably won't anytime in the near future from what I can tell. I used to get excited about seeing their pics and reading about them, but to be quite honest I am so sick of the "biewer" debate/argument/disagreement/issue/subject/made for tv movie that I honestly just don't care anymore. :cool:

If their Yorkies, fine, if their not, start a BiewerTalk.com. or post in the Brothers/Sisters section. This is YORKIEtalk.
I think most of us Biewer owners are sorry that you feel this way. We are just excited about our babies and want to share. The most disheartening thing is to hear that we have offended certain people by "talking" Biewers. I do hope the ADM. will consider putting up a Biewer thread so the ones that are interested can go there and the ones that aren't, like yourself, can stay away. I, too, will be at Lexington. This will be the first time that I will actually see other adult Biewers for the first time. It's going to be a good time. This breed is so "young" and over time it will be evolutionized just like all others breeds have done. Just the other day, a yorkie breeder was telling me that 30 or so years ago, black, was very common in the show ring on Yorkies, now it's frowned upon :confused: So I guess things will change for the Biewers too as the years go by. We all have to still learn, and what/how we choose to develope our own breeding programs will tell of the outcome. We just have to take the best and healthiest and go from there. I personally can't wait to meet everyone in April :thumbup: ...

YorkieRini 03-19-2006 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkiegal719
I think most of us Biewer owners are sorry that you feel this way. We are just excited about our babies and want to share. The most disheartening thing is to hear that we have offended certain people by "talking" Biewers. I do hope the ADM. will consider putting up a Biewer thread so the ones that are interested can go there and the ones that aren't, like yourself, can stay away. I, too, will be at Lexington. This will be the first time that I will actually see other adult Biewers for the first time. It's going to be a good time. This breed is so "young" and over time it will be evolutionized just like all others breeds have done. Just the other day, a yorkie breeder was telling me that 30 or so years ago, black, was very common in the show ring on Yorkies, now it's frowned upon :confused: So I guess things will change for the Biewers too as the years go by. We all have to still learn, and what/how we choose to develope our own breeding programs will tell of the outcome. We just have to take the best and healthiest and go from there. I personally can't wait to meet everyone in April :thumbup: ...

Yes. It does make me sad when I think about it. But it's soo common. I guess I've just accepted it.

Interesting about the Black Yorkie! :thumbup:

BamaFan121s 03-19-2006 09:51 AM
I am sorry if I upset or offended anyone by my post. That was not my intention. In all honesty, I love to look at pic and hear about the Biewers. There just has been so much controversy about them lately, that everytime they are brought up, I cringe to think how the disscussion will end. It is very upsetting to see great breeders who are striving to educate themself about and promote the breed come to blows and the such over the subject because of a difference in opinion. That was all I meant, no disrespect to anyone. I'm always up for seeing pics and hearing about them...but I have to say I'll pass on all the arguments.

From the looks of it, that has all been ended now...knock on wood. :) Again, I apologize if my post came accross as rude and offensive to anyone. :(

Tashasmom 03-19-2006 10:52 AM
I'm not trying to upset you Bama but you were the only one that had anything negative to say. If you don't want to upset or hear anything negative about the briewers then you shouldn't add to the problem.

Snow Yorkies 03-19-2006 11:23 AM
The other side of the coin.
 
Okay I am NOT trying to start anything here 1st thing ... and here it comes please bare with me for one moment, as I try to see the other side of the coin here. We are stating.....

1.) We want them to be a breed of their own
2.) Some what the Yorkshire removed from their name all together
3.) Some don't want them associated to the Yorkshires peroid.

So if this is what we truly want for the breed we HAVE to understand why others are saying this is a Yorkie Forum. As mother would say "You can not have your cake and eat it too"

I personally think that Admin has let us discuss this openly on a yorkie forum plan and simple due to their heritage. JMO

This is not a attack "just some food for thought".... :D :D

Tashasmom 03-19-2006 11:29 AM
If those of you that want to fuss over this being discussed put up such a big fuss over this than this forum will get to be where we can't talk about anything but yorkies. And I don't know about you but I enjoy being able to come on here to talk about my yorkies, my other pets, my kids and just life in genral. Do you really want a forum where you can't discuss but one single topic with all of your friends? I am glad admin lets us branch out some. That is why I love this forum the most.
Does talking about Briewers make you ill? Does it really harm you in any kind of way? No it doesn't. So why not let those that enjoy the topic enjoy themselves..wouldn't that be the kind thing to do.

YorkieRini 03-19-2006 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Snow Yorkies
Okay I am NOT trying to start anything here 1st thing ... and here it comes please bare with me for one moment, as I try to see the other side of the coin here. We are stating.....

1.) We want them to be a breed of their own
2.) Some what the Yorkshire removed from their name all together
3.) Some don't want them associated to the Yorkshires peroid.

So if this is what we truly want for the breed we HAVE to understand why others are saying this is a Yorkie Forum. As mother would say "You can not have your cake and eat it too"

I personally think that Admin has let us discuss this openly on a yorkie forum plan and simple due to their heritage. JMO

This is not a attack "just some food for thought".... :D :D
Sue,

How DARE YOU!!!! I feel attacked!!..HAHA..I'm just joking :p .

Let's face it Biewers are not any more special than a Chi or a Maltese or any other breed that we discuss on YT. Admin has been kind enough to not ban the name Biewer from his Yorkshire forum. Thanks Admin!

YorkieRini 03-19-2006 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s
I am sorry if I upset or offended anyone by my post. That was not my intention. In all honesty, I love to look at pic and hear about the Biewers. There just has been so much controversy about them lately, that everytime they are brought up, I cringe to think how the disscussion will end. It is very upsetting to see great breeders who are striving to educate themself about and promote the breed come to blows and the such over the subject because of a difference in opinion. That was all I meant, no disrespect to anyone. I'm always up for seeing pics and hearing about them...but I have to say I'll pass on all the arguments.

From the looks of it, that has all been ended now...knock on wood. :) Again, I apologize if my post came accross as rude and offensive to anyone. :(
You have nothing to apologize for Misty. You said what you feel and I'm glad you did!
I know the breed or the name 'Biewer' is not what bothers you. You are friends with both sides of the Biewer table so I'm sure it's not a fun position to be in.
I want you to enjoy the pics. I want your nutty remarks on my posts. I posted this thread because I want to feel at ease to say what I want about Biewers and not be accused to have a hidden agenda when I mention them. It has gotten hair on this public forum You should see the email I received privately. Nothing was held back..lolol. That's fine. I am glad to have beautiful Biewers and be a part of the introduction of the beautiful breed that originated in Germany.

I think hear DQ calling your name:...lololol

Hugs,
Irene

BamaFan121s 03-19-2006 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tashasmom
I'm not trying to upset you Bama but you were the only one that had anything negative to say. If you don't want to upset or hear anything negative about the briewers then you shouldn't add to the problem.
My feelings were spawned from other, recent, locked threads regarding the subject where there was PLENTY of negativity. Actually, in some of these, I was one of the few remaining positive and trying to add humor and keep the peace. This thread is only one of about 10-15 that has arisen as of recently.

BamaFan121s 03-19-2006 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRini
You have nothing to apologize for Misty. You said what you feel and I'm glad you did!
I know the breed or the name 'Biewer' is not what bothers you. You are friends with both sides of the Biewer table so I'm sure it's not a fun position to be in.
I want you to enjoy the pics. I want your nutty remarks on my posts. I posted this thread because I want to feel at ease to say what I want about Biewers and not be accused to have a hidden agenda when I mention them. It has gotten hair on this public forum You should see the email I received privately. Nothing was held back..lolol. That's fine. I am glad to have beautiful Biewers and be a part of the introduction of the beautiful breed that originated in Germany.

I think hear DQ calling your name:...lololol
Lol...thanks Irene. I am glad you understand what I was getting at. I will try to remain nutty, just for you!

Hugs!

livingdustmops 03-19-2006 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s
I will try to remain nutty, just for you!

Hugs!
TRY - toooo funny...it is not in your makeup to be a serious or non-nutty woman :D :dizzy:

Tashasmom 03-19-2006 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s
My feelings were spawned from other, recent, locked threads regarding the subject where there was PLENTY of negativity. Actually, in some of these, I was one of the few remaining positive and trying to add humor and keep the peace. This thread is only one of about 10-15 that has arisen as of recently.
YOur right I've read other posts from you so I apologize..

Nikko's_human 03-20-2006 10:18 AM
Belonging to the yorkie breed or a breed all their own, I could care less. They are just beautiful little dogs to me and I would love to learn and see more about them. :) Sometimes its just best to simply enjoy the beauty of something without analyzing it to death ;)

Tashasmom 03-20-2006 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Nikko's_human
Belonging to the yorkie breed or a breed all their own, I could care less. They are just beautiful little dogs to me and I would love to learn and see more about them. :) Sometimes its just best to simply enjoy the beauty of something without analyzing it to death ;)
Well said..i don't think politicians could debate as well as us here on yt lol...
I wish I would quit seeing them cause the more I see them the more i want one lol..I can see it now i'll be searching for a pup hehe..

Gazou 03-20-2006 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Nikko's_human
Belonging to the yorkie breed or a breed all their own, I could care less. They are just beautiful little dogs to me and I would love to learn and see more about them. :) Sometimes its just best to simply enjoy the beauty of something without analyzing it to death ;)
Well said . :thumbup:


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