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Wrenee4 02-06-2006 08:20 PM
Breeders what do you think?
 
Please read all before responding :) Ok, this is not all about tinies!! I have a female Zaylee. She is 4 1/2 pounds and almost one year old. The stud I have chosen for her is 2.12 lbs. Now I know Gizmo (my stud that I dont want to use since he is 4.4 lbs) gained weight even after he turned 1...what do you think my luck is to get to the magic 5 lb number OR do you think with such a little male she would be ok? I am not planning on breeding until she is almost two, but just wanted your imputs..but please no ranting :cool:

feminvstr 02-06-2006 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Wrenee4
Please read all before responding :) Ok, this is not all about tinies!! I have a female Zaylee. She is 4 1/2 pounds and almost one year old. The stud I have chosen for her is 2.12 lbs. Now I know Gizmo (my stud that I dont want to use since he is 4.4 lbs) gained weight even after he turned 1...what do you think my luck is to get to the magic 5 lb number OR do you think with such a little male she would be ok? I am not planning on breeding until she is almost two, but just wanted your imputs..but please no ranting :cool:
She might hit 5lbs as she matures...Once she matures and puts on a bit more weight I wouldnt breed your 4.4lbs male to her if his attibutes compliment her better...like to like in weight or even a 1/2 lb over her weight is fine. Keep in mind if you breed to the stud that is 2.12 and tinies are prevelant in his back ground you will be breeding tiny little kids...breeding to your larger stud will give you a much better change of having 4-5lbs adult offspring

hope this helps

yorkiegirl2 02-06-2006 08:41 PM
I'd say good chance she may hit the 5 lb mark by the time you get ready to breed. They seem to fill out and put on alittle bit more weight by the time they hit 2 years.
I'd think your male would be fine to use as long as his parents were not in the 6-7 lb range. I'd make sure your male or the other male you are thinking about using came out of smaller parents too.
Your Vet will be the one to tell you if she is in good health and OK to breed.
Good luck to you...Sherry

txshopper73 02-06-2006 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by feminvstr
She might hit 5lbs as she matures...Once she matures and puts on a bit more weight I wouldnt breed your 4.4lbs male to her if his attibutes compliment her better...like to like in weight or even a 1/2 lb over her weight is fine. Keep in mind if you breed to the stud that is 2.12 and tinies are prevelant in his back ground you will be breeding tiny little kids...breeding to your larger stud will give you a much better change of having 4-5lbs adult offspring

hope this helps
Well said! :thumbup:

PennyNLola 02-06-2006 09:12 PM
Hello. I would prefer going with your own stud who weighs 5lbs or so. Your female will probably fill out more like everyone is saying. It is true. I don't see why a 2.2lb male would interest you? Besides the fact that they would produce little pups and it would be easier for your girl, the littler does not mean the healthier. If you want to raise nice, average, standard, healthy yorkie pups, go with your own stud. That is just my opinion. Why do people always want to charge more for the 3lbs or less yorkies??? Thanks

Wrenee4 02-06-2006 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PennyNLola
Hello. I would prefer going with your own stud who weighs 5lbs or so. Your female will probably fill out more like everyone is saying. It is true. I don't see why a 2.2lb male would interest you? Besides the fact that they would produce little pups and it would be easier for your girl, the littler does not mean the healthier. If you want to raise nice, average, standard, healthy yorkie pups, go with your own stud. That is just my opinion. Why do people always want to charge more for the 3lbs or less yorkies??? Thanks
I thought that perhaps my male would be too big for her and that using a smaller male would help her with having her babies. I guess it will be a waiting game anyway to see how big she gets. My male is very nice with a good pedigree and they would make some VERY adorable babies. :) Thank you all for your imput and I have my fingers crossed :)

yorkiemom1970 02-06-2006 10:48 PM
I'd give her a little more time to mature and gain and breed to the 5 lb male before i would the 2 something male anyday. Good luck! I wish you and her the best!

SoCalyorkiLvr 02-06-2006 11:49 PM
Have you had your female evaluated by a canine reproductive specialist to determine her overall suitability for breeding? It is not really the weight of the female that is key, it is the "frame" and pelvic capacity. I would find a vet who specializes in reproductive veterinary medicine and have a complete pre-mating evaluation done. :thumbup:

red98vett 02-07-2006 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by feminvstr
She might hit 5lbs as she matures...Once she matures and puts on a bit more weight I wouldnt breed your 4.4lbs male to her if his attibutes compliment her better...like to like in weight or even a 1/2 lb over her weight is fine. Keep in mind if you breed to the stud that is 2.12 and tinies are prevelant in his back ground you will be breeding tiny little kids...breeding to your larger stud will give you a much better change of having 4-5lbs adult offspring

hope this helps
Very well said...... :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: and good luck Wendy - it sounds like you're really thinking this thru and I'm looking forward to more replies from the breeders on this one...that's a really good question on the small male vs the larger one.

YorkieRose 02-07-2006 04:33 AM
There is no magic number..many 5 pounders have no business being bred. Look at the frame and structure before the weight.
I do so agree about the size of the stud..the weight of a stud is the least of my concerns just so he is not oversized. I would pick a quality 4 pound stud over a tinier stud anyday.
There is this theory the stud must be smaller, the bitch must be 5 pounds and then all will be fine..no so. You have to go bitch by bitch. I hope that did not sound like a lecture..not meant to be. Good Luck to you.

shyorkies 02-07-2006 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkiemom1970
I'd give her a little more time to mature and gain and breed to the 5 lb male before i would the 2 something male anyday. Good luck! I wish you and her the best!
This is exactly what I would suggest! She has plenty of time to mature out to a larger weight and always look at her structure to see if she has a big enough structure to be bred.. If you decide when the time is right to breed her I would take her back to your male.. You know his lines and what he produces..

Good-luck!

YorkieGeorge 02-07-2006 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose
There is no magic number..many 5 pounders have no business being bred. Look at the frame and structure before the weight.
I do so agree about the size of the stud..the weight of a stud is the least of my concerns just so he is not oversized. I would pick a quality 4 pound stud over a tinier stud anyday.
There is this theory the stud must be smaller, the bitch must be 5 pounds and then all will be fine..no so. You have to go bitch by bitch. I hope that did not sound like a lecture..not meant to be. Good Luck to you.
I 100% agree with you :thumbup:

feminvstr 02-07-2006 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr
Have you had your female evaluated by a canine reproductive specialist to determine her overall suitability for breeding? It is not really the weight of the female that is key, it is the "frame" and pelvic capacity. I would find a vet who specializes in reproductive veterinary medicine and have a complete pre-mating evaluation done. :thumbup:
a quality vet can determine the suitability of a breeding female not only by touch but x-ray taking the diameter of the pelvic region, he is just as capiable determining whether she is a good canidate for breeding, the only reason IMHO to consult a reproductive specialist is when or if issues arise as she matures. And it then would be my opinion if issues call for a reproductive specialist other than AI for example the female should NOT be bred.

SoCalyorkiLvr 02-07-2006 10:18 AM
Why NOT use a specialist who is the most qualified to conduct ALL pre-mating tests? If it were my female I would want only the best. There are very few vets imo who are qualified to FULLY evaluate a female for breeding purposes. There is a lot more to it than measuring the diameter of the pelvic region. That is only one factor. There are very few small breed vets period and not many trained or experienced in working with breeding dogs.....they are just few and far between and you may have to travel to have the evaluation done by a specialist, but it is well worth the extra effort and expense if you care about your girl. JMHO.

txshopper73 02-07-2006 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by feminvstr
a quality vet can determine the suitability of a breeding female not only by touch but x-ray taking the diameter of the pelvic region, he is just as capiable determining whether she is a good canidate for breeding, the only reason IMHO to consult a reproductive specialist is when or if issues arise as she matures. And it then would be my opinion if issues call for a reproductive specialist other than AI for example the female should NOT be bred.
I agree. Paula who's been breeding for over 44 years has never used a reproductive specialist. She uses one of the same vets that I use. Out of 44+ years, she's only had 1 dog that required a c-section and she's not been used for breeding since.

Maybe it's just our town but my vets have dealt with small breed dogs for years. Any testing that I have had to have done was done by the vet and not a "reproductive specialist".


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