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yorkiemom1970 01-28-2006 09:16 PM
Breeder Talk
 
Hi everyone...

Just have to say this..I've been a member of yt since the early summer. I always enjoy the breeder talk forum. Atleast I did.

I'm going to just come out and say it because I'm a really straight forward kinda gal....

I don't want to discuss one breed vs. the other. I don't want to make everyone feel obligated to "lay it out on the table" concerning "breeder facts". I don't want to have our threads constanlty turn into a debate. Because of my nature, I do tend to voice my opinion at times. However, what I do want is for Breeder talk to be about just that. I want to discuss our experiences as breeders. I want to help anyone with a question that I may be able to answer concerning their litter or upcoming litter. I want to share my experiences and the experiences of others. I think this section of the forum is loosing something.

Thanks.

StewiesMom 01-28-2006 10:09 PM
I think you're right, Robbie. Whenever I even peek in on a thread in this forum I cringe. LOL. That's not the way it should be!

YorkieRini 01-28-2006 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by StewiesMom
I think you're right, Robbie. Whenever I even peek in on a thread in this forum I cringe. LOL. That's not the way it should be!
I understand completely. But again, this IS a breeders forum. This is just breeder 'TALK', really. What was it like when the Yorkie became it's own breed?

yorkiemom1970 01-28-2006 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRini
I understand completely. But again, this IS a breeders forum. This is just breeder 'TALK', really. What was it like when the Yorkie became it's own breed?

This isn't anything about when the yorkie became it's own BREED. This is about a place to talk about whelping, breeding, studs, bitches, techniques, feeding, our fears, our experiences, and our advice to others who are expecting babies or planning to breed.

Snow Yorkies 01-28-2006 11:25 PM
I agree !!!
 
I have to agree with you so much here Robbie thank you for bringing this up... :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Sorry I have been trying to educate so I am very guilty here... :( But as a breeder I feel this is my duty to educate... too. But yes it has gotten out of hand... What is it next--- I have a TRUE Yorkie !!! :eek: :eek: It has to stop !!!! It is offensive to say the least. When using caps we are yelling.

Maybe put this under off the topic or something like that... Breeder page is actually what you state it should be... :thumbup: :thumbup: JMO

red98vett 01-29-2006 03:43 AM
Robbie....You said it perfectly....I'm not a breeder but love reading this section :thumbup: I've learned SO much about Breeding here....but lately it's turned more into a Pis**ng Contest than Breeders "Talking".

I can honestly say.... I don't think I learned one thing these last few days except to say that the Breeding world is VERY small... and VERY political.

red98vett 01-29-2006 04:19 AM
I wanted to add I hope I didn't offend anyone - I just hate to see anyone with hurt feelings ... you all have so much to offer & it's just been sounding like a "My dog is better than your dog" Section lately....

If we did this with yorkies we'd have lots of upset people.

flyorkies 01-29-2006 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by red98vett
Robbie....You said it perfectly....I'm not a breeder but love reading this section :thumbup: I've learned SO much about Breeding here....but lately it's turned more into a Pis**ng Contest than Breeders "Talking".

I can honestly say.... I don't think I learned one thing these last few days except to say that the Breeding world is VERY small... and VERY political.
I agree 100%. I love to read. Im also looking to educate myself. I feel it is better to read then to post a thread.I had some threads asking breeding question about my babies. I got a truthful answer for some great people, but when i continued to ask questions on breeding some decided to act like I didnt get the picture and why was I still asking questions if i wasnt going to breed right now. I have recieved replies that werent very nice. When I post a thread im just tring to learn. Im not being ignorant. If i was going to breed my two pups regardless of what people have said then I wouldnt have ever asked if they were breed quality.As much as i like to learn to maybe become a future breeder I feel that YT holds alot of great info but if people are going to argue over everything, accuse,and snap at people then YT may not be as popular as it once was and new YTers will be reluctant to ask questions.I feel that this sit is not just a chat room its like a library full of information on what we love the most or yorkies.When i check the breeder section I too want to read about breeding issues even though im not a breeder either. :)

schatzie 01-29-2006 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkiemom1970
This isn't anything about when the yorkie became it's own BREED. This is about a place to talk about whelping, breeding, studs, bitches, techniques, feeding, our fears, our experiences, and our advice to others who are expecting babies or planning to breed.

Perfectly said! Beautifully said! Words of wisdom right here folks!! Did I mention that this is perfectly said?!!? ;)

red98vett 01-29-2006 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by schatzie
Perfectly said! Beautifully said! Words of wisdom right here folks!! Did I mention that this is perfectly said?!!? ;)
That WAS perfectly said....Oh - wait - did someone already say that ? :D

schatzie 01-29-2006 05:17 AM
I would like to add (after the fact that this is PERFECTLY said by Yorkiemom) that the breeder section is a very important section within YT. It is highly helpful to many. I would hate to see many not want to be part of this section due to elevated debates and negativity.

It is important for breeders to have an area to share their experiences, help, etc with other breeders and those wanting to become breeders. We must remember that behind these breeders are our beautiful little fur babies.

txshopper73 01-29-2006 07:06 AM
Robbie, I completely agree with you. This shouldn't turn into a "who's better" or "who does what" debate. I know that I have avoided other questions and threads because how I felt was that it was no one's business but is between me and a potential buyer. I shouldn't have another breeder or non-breeder ask questions wanting me to "lay my cards" on the table. And for whatever reason, when I avoided certain threads, they would magically be bumped anytime I was on line. I felt that this was childish but I played along.

Also, I've not ever advertised with the for sale format. If I have puppies and someone is interested, they've contacted me. Then, any issues are discussed with the potential buyer either through pm-s or by e-mail or even phone. What I sell is no one's business so they have no right to question. JMO

However, if someone has questions in the breeder's section about their own bitches, I'm more than happy to oblige...even if it goes so far as to giving out my phone number, which I have done and have talked people through.

yorkiegirl2 01-29-2006 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkiemom1970
Hi everyone...

Just have to say this..I've been a member of yt since the early summer. I always enjoy the breeder talk forum. Atleast I did.

I'm going to just come out and say it because I'm a really straight forward kinda gal....

I don't want to discuss one breed vs. the other. I don't want to make everyone feel obligated to "lay it out on the table" concerning "breeder facts". I don't want to have our threads constanlty turn into a debate. Because of my nature, I do tend to voice my opinion at times. However, what I do want is for Breeder talk to be about just that. I want to discuss our experiences as breeders. I want to help anyone with a question that I may be able to answer concerning their litter or upcoming litter. I want to share my experiences and the experiences of others. I think this section of the forum is loosing something.

Thanks.
Very, Very nicely put..Robbie
I too feel this is way.. I'm here to learn as much as I can, to have a sound breeding program..I would love to see the section with less heated debate..just facts, helping one and another and sharing experiences.
We all had to start somewhere..
I have learned so much and would like to say A BIG Thank you to Yorkierose she has always answered my many questions without making me feel I'm Stupid...because I want to start breeding. SO.. THANK YOU YORKIEROSE you are tops in my book....Sherry

barbg402 01-29-2006 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkiemom1970
This isn't anything about when the yorkie became it's own BREED. This is about a place to talk about whelping, breeding, studs, bitches, techniques, feeding, our fears, our experiences, and our advice to others who are expecting babies or planning to breed.
I agree you have described what this section should be all about. I am a breeder, with limited knowledge who strives to educate myself for the betterment of the breed. I come to this section to read and see what breeder expertise I can learn from.
I dearly love YT, you guys have so much knowledge. My goal is to have excellent breeding stock that conform to the breed standard. The health of my babies are very important. I certainly don't want to carry any genetic health problems down line.

diva pup 01-29-2006 07:42 AM
I think all in all it has been a informative thread, I have enjoyed reading MOST of it. And to those who are interested in breeding the Biewer or breeders of the Biewer I am sure it was VERY interesting. However the pettiness has gotten to be a bit much. Debate is fine if done while being respectful of others opinions be they right or wrong. Being insulting and petty does nothing for credibility.
I would hate to see breeding threads getting closed because of that. JMHO


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