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Old 11-12-2004, 06:57 PM   #16
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I have responded to the post about Brushy (Shady) Creek vial AOL mail - I have emails from inspectors who were susposed to check them out - I hope you keep on this cause this is my letter and I saw a poor Yorkie with the most distended stomach they tried to sell me - her bite was so bad all her top teeth were covered by her bottom teeth...and they were all crooked - she was in need of a home and I had to force myself to walk away after seeing this place and that ugly woman !

My letter: (sorry - it's kind of long)

My letter to AKC July 31, 2004
I have been looking at Yorkie puppies for 4 months now - I did get one - but NOT from the breeders I am writing about. I need to report them to someone who will respond to this. Please read this and hopefully, you will help.
I personally have been to both of the breeders I am writing about in TX that are totally mis-representing and selling unhealthy puppies. I purchased a sick puppy from one - 2 years ago, and while looking this past 4 months - I went to a kennel in Hockley TX where the puppy she brought outside to show us, had a severe bite problem and the most awful Distended stomach, that I reported it at once to anyone I could via email.

This Breeder wouldn't even let us into their place of business - she came outside and we stayed there looking at the dog. I noticed immediately it was ill - she had emailed me several pictures of very cute puppies - after we drove for 2 hours - she laughed and said it was a misunderstanding and this is the only dog for sale! (Misunderstanding ? - after 4 emails with pictures and prices?) she got upset when we asked about the dogs bite - I never mentioned the belly - I felt it and it was NOT normal for a puppy, it was HUGE!

I have posted this Breeder Ethics letter I wrote on many (Yorkie) forums and gotten so much feedback about these 2 Breeders that I thought I would try you and see who could check them out.
Please help me - I was so angry about that sick puppy and both of them have many, many animals you can hear - but they won't let you see. The 2 Breeders Websites are Lloversyorkies.com in Richmond TX (Betty) - she and another woman pass off dogs as AKC...the other one is Brushy (aka Shady) Creek Kennels - www.yorkiecity.com in Hockley, TX (Dawn).

If you monitor who uses your AKC reputation...there are many people who can testify to these awful uncaring breeders! Thank you - Villette Rochford, Houston, TX (Owner of 2 Yorkies)

Below is only 1 response I have - there are others on the Forums -
COPY OF LETTER ON FORUM – Anonymous
OMG!! I freaked out when I saw the name of the breeder that you dealt with... They are the ones that I got koko from!! I came onto this website asking questions about them when I was looking for a yorkie and every1 was leary (sp?) about them.. I was promised 2 puppies from the same litter, but both were sick and couldn't fly... They refused to answer my phone calls, refund my $$, they said that my pup was on the flight & she wasn't, etc.... I picked Koko up 2 months after I paid my $$ and I got lucky, she was actually on this flight w/a man that sounded a lot like the guy who I spoke to on the phone (it was supposed to be his brother from Ireland)... Anyway, my husband refers to them as "Shady Creek" and I will never be so uninformed in the future about where my puppy is coming from... I really feel for you... I was attached to Koko from Day 1 and I can't imagine having to part w/her... Things will get better, let these ladies in Texas help you & I'll help you spread the word about "Brushy Creek" a.k.a. "Shady Creek"... So sorry for all of your troubles...
My question is - Who is out there helping the poor puppies being sold unhealthy - and why are they saying AKC Registered - If you had seen the puppy I saw it would have made you ill.
I can go back and gather more info if necessary - please let me know something. Thank you again.
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Old 11-14-2004, 01:22 AM   #17
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Good, I hope they do something about this! I'm thinking if ANYONE buys from this breeder, and they really are AKC-registered, that AKC has to bear some responsibility if there's people out there complaining mightily about this breeder's unethical practices. Yes, AKC registration can be a good thing, but if they have no requirements or never check up on complaints, it's going to make the AKC name worthless!

So let us know if AKC ever responds red98vett!
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Old 11-14-2004, 12:33 PM   #18
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I think the AKC should take responsibility for dogs that are registered to them. They are making money off of these breeders, but don't seem to care the condition these dogs live in. I know that the AKC can't go look at every breeders set up, but when red flags go up they should look into it. I wonder how much money the AKC makes of just the Yorkie breed a year.
Yesterday I went with my mom and sister to some antique shops in a small town by Beaumont. On the way home we stopped at there new super Walmart. I went to go pick them up by the door, because my sister has 6 cats and 2 dogs so you can imagine the stuff she had for them I saw this car with dog carriers on them with puppies in them. We had got a cool front in and the wind was blowing and it was misting. Needless to say I was pissed off. I told them what type of breeder would sell dogs from a parking lot in this weather or at any time. They told me what they thought about me as I did them. By the time I go to pick my sister and mom up, I was fumming. They could tell I was pissed. Long story but mom went in the store and asked if it was ther practice to let puppymill sell dogs in there parking lot. They said absolutely NO. The manager and a big guy went to talk to them and called the police for being on there property selling. I really wanted to knock the poot out of them and take all the dogs. I thought of those poor dogs all night. Just had to vent...............Cindy
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Amazing what people will do to make a few dollars! The best thing we can do is just to tell people we know NOT to buy from that kind of breeder and if there's real animal abuse, to report them to the police.
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My question is, is there anyway to hold the AKC responsible for having such low standards as to allow dogs to be treated like this? It's just awful! It just breaks my heart to think of the pain and poor condition those little girls are in that are being bred. With the Yorkies in general being a small dog, I can't even imagine what this is doing to their little bodies. What about the local newspaper? Can you contact them and ask them to do a story about this?
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I hate to admit it but I have done business with Llovers Yorkies for years but this is my last time - I used one of her males for breeding several times and have taken people by there to buy puppies. Everytime I've been there every thing has been neat & clean and dogs were in an airconditioned room - but she also knew I was coming by. I bought a puppy from her a few months ago and I just dropped in and you are right - things were not clean and dogs were everywhere. She is adorable and wouldn't trade her for anything. She told me she had a championship bloodline but when I got my stuff from AKC there were no championships in immediate bloodline - maybe way down there. She also put a limited registration on my puppy - Mikenna. I spent lots of dollars on breeding with one of her males who did have a championship bloodline and he was beautiful and made beautiful puppies. I paid a lot for Mikenna too and I couldn't believe she put limitation on her. I emailed her and told her how upset I was and haven't heard a thing from her and since then I have heard all kinds of bad things about her. I too have written AKC because she did not tell me there was a limitation on my registration. Mikenna is very small and I wouldn't breed her anyway because of her size but the idea of her putting a limitation on my puppy after all the money I have made for her. I have another yorkie, Mikayla (just turned 8)...she was my first and then we got Bailey (would have been 7 in December)who passed away in April. Liked to have killed my husband and I. Never knew I could be so attached. I have been very depressed since Bailey passed away but I think she is reincorinated in Mikenna. Mikenna likes the same toys Bailey had, she acts like her, everything. My life has lighted up since Mikenna came to our home. When I walke upon Betty's porch I knew instantly that she was the puppy I wanted and I hadn't even touched her yet-just knew she was the one. I looked all up Dallas way for puppies but just didn't like the way some of them looked and the feeling I got from the people selling them. When I had puppies for sale everyone came into my house and saw where the puppies were kept what kind of house I had and everything. I made birth cetificates up with their weight when they were born and how long they were and what order it was in along with info on thier parents. I did turn one lady down because she had 3 small all under the age of 5 children - no way was one of my puppies going to that home. I did sell one to a lady who had 2 small sons 5 & 6 and that puppy is so spoiled. They bring him by to see me every now and agian and the boys are so protective of him. I turned down several people just a feeling I got from them. Ok I've rambled enough. If I can be of any help with anyone let me know.
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Thanks for the update kaylabug, welcome to YorkieTalk. Feel free to introduce your little one and or share pictures!
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that is just horible. you should also report them to the humaine society. Maybe they can shut them down. Before we got chester my husband and i would just spend Saturdays driving around seeing puppies... We went to this ladies home it was two hours away and we nearly got lost coming home it was so dark no lights at all. Any way when we got there she had 5 puppies , they were not yorkies , but they were still cute. Anyway she said she had a few more in the barn that was right infront of us. she walked in an shut the door so fast it was not funny. It was obious she did not want us to see there condition. she came out with the puppy 15 to 20 min later. The puppy was covered in saw dust and was very dirty smelly and she said... Here is the "*****". Now I know breeders use the term for female dogs... but it was the way she said it... and it was so mean... and she kept asking us about the money when I clearly told her we were just viewing at the time.
I swear the place was a puppy mill. I wish I had know the area wear she lived.. I would have reported her ...horible women. She obiously did not care about us at all. I can not rember one question she ask use except for the money.
I belive the hurmian sociatey investigates people like this or at least tries to save the dogs .

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Hi...I also do not have a Yorkie, but purchased a Westie from Brushy Creek Kennel. The dog is sick...coughing, sneezing, runny nose, etc. I have seen two vets and one trainer so far because in addition to the physical issues, she is what is called a "dirty puppy". She has no interest in housebreaking although she is very smart, and is perfectly willing to lay in the wet. I have been told that this is due to the conditions she was forced to live in.....she didn't know anything else for the first weeks of her life. I have also not been able to get paperwork or shot records (another story) despite contacting Mr. Moore and his office manager weekly for the past month. I wish there was something I could do to make his practices known.
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I was doing some research on Yorkies in Texas, looking for a small female pup for my daughter and ran across the Shady Creek Kennels. I emailed him a question and just received a response that he would have a few after his brother brings them back from Europe. I was so excited.
Then I ran across this forum and saw some of the posts and was so relieved that I didn't send any money to hold the puppies. I admit this is my first experience buying a dog. I live in Magnolia, just outside of Hockley and thought what great luck I had. Thanks to all of you for alerting me to the scam. I just feel so sorry for all those puppies treated that way.
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How could people have such cruel hearts? One, being they're cheating people out of their money and two, neglecting those little puppies like that. That's just horrible.
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I was doing some research on Yorkies in Texas, looking for a small female pup for my daughter and ran across the Shady Creek Kennels. I emailed him a question and just received a response that he would have a few after his brother brings them back from Europe. I was so excited.
Then I ran across this forum and saw some of the posts and was so relieved that I didn't send any money to hold the puppies. I admit this is my first experience buying a dog. I live in Magnolia, just outside of Hockley and thought what great luck I had. Thanks to all of you for alerting me to the scam. I just feel so sorry for all those puppies treated that way.
I'm from Texas too and from this forum, I have decided that these two kennels in this thread and "chiaspets.com" isn't a place to get your yorkies from. I have my puppy on hold at http://www.pupsnmore.com. They're great people. She calls me and keeps me up to date on my pup and how he's doing. She keeps the puppies until she thinks they're ready to be on their own, meaning she does what's best for the pup and not for her. She doesn't throw them out for sale just because they're 8 weeks old, etc. If you don't mind driving to Dallas (Duncanville, to be exact, between Arlington and Dallas) for a pup, it's worth it. They're great pups for a great price.
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Natalie,
Thank you so much for the info. I don't mind the drive to Duncanville. I used to live there for 10 years. Quite a coincidence. I am still trying to find a local breeder where I can visit the home and see the parents and play with the little pup and see the environment he grew up in. We live about an hour northwest of Houston. My whole family is really ready for a puppy and to make that committment that it takes. The puppy is going to be a member of our family. I am not interested in a championship bloodline, just coming from a loving family. So I can only pay about $500 for a female pup. Really appreciate your response.
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dkdoughty: I am from Houston also and this is my first post as I am very new here. I looked in the paper every week but I haven't found a yorkie female for $500 they average about $1000 on the HoustonChronicle.com. If I see or know of one I will relay that info to you ok. I am expecting a litter of yorkie pup after tax season but i think I will keep them all...eheheheeheh if I do decide to sell one or two.. I will let you know. This litter will be my first yorkie litter. I presently have a litter of Siberian huskies. I have these two breeds cus I love them both. My yorkies stay in side and my husky have the yard.
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sexcbrucelee: Thanks for the reply. Keep me posted. I am trying to get ahold of the Yorkie Club in Houston to see if they can offer any info on reputable breeders. I really want a female, maybe 2 . Just a healthy , well adjusted puppy that makes a great pet. We are not into the breeding experience, which is why I assume females are more expensive.
So I have been to the library and checked out "THe Idiots Guide to Puppies." Now I need to study crating and so forth. Been a long time since I had a puppy. When I was a kid, they ran free outside, now the world is so different. Much thanks, and best wishes on the litter.
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