Early Spay/Neuter

[SoCalyorkiLvr]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

From the link:

Urinary incontinence

Urinary incontinence, or the inability to control urination, may be observed in female dogs whether they are spayed or intact, and regardless of the age when spayed. Older, intact female dogs may experience incontinence naturally as a result of the decrease in circulating estrogen, which has an effect on the external urethral sphincter. In spayed dogs, incontinence may be seen soon after the surgery has been performed, years later or not at all. It bears repeating that there has been no indication that it occurs at a higher rate in animals spayed prepubertally.

Please reference the sections in bold. Sorry, I think YOU are the one that is mistaken. And again, this study is more recent than the one you have been using to prove this point. I believe you said it would be a proven fact until proven otherwise? Well, it has been.

Prepubertally means prior to puberty which is what we are referring to when we discuss Early Spay Neuter, neuterin done before puberty.

I posted what the article says.....there is no higher rate of incontinence in ESN dogs than in ones spayed at older ages, but it does not refute the proven fact that spayed females DO have a higher rate of incontinence than unspayed dogs

While it is true that there is no higher incidence of incontinence in ESN dogs, there IS a higher incidence in neutered dogs as opposed to intact dogs.

The article I cited in Post #33 was written in April, 2000 and states clearly that "the incidence if estrogen-responsive urinary incontinance is increased among neutered female dogs.". Here is the link again.there is no higher rate of incontinence in ESN dogs than in ones spayed at older ages, but it does not refute the proven fact that spayed females DO have a higher rate of incontinence than unspayed dogs

[Ponyup]

It's been my experience that unspayed females having a lower rate of incontinence is not true. We've only had one female dog that wasn't spayed and she suffered from incontinence starting when she was about 6 years old. All our other female dogs were spayed and never had this problem and then all lived well over 10 (they were big dogs so 10 is a decent age).

[gymbo68]

OK...I was gonna leave this alone and after this I will (well maybe) ....but I am sitting here watching the dog whisperer...which I believe several members have said he is a great place to turn for dog knowledge....anyway-
He at 8:52 on his show said ----

"it is very important that we have to spay/neuter our dogs it is important to their well being"

a rather interesting statement from someone viewed as an expert.....I know several here have referenced him in the past....I wonder if he has any info on his website......

just an fyi....

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr

Prepubertally means prior to puberty which is what we are referring to when we discuss Early Spay Neuter, neuterin done before puberty.

Um...I know what it means....isn't this what we were talking about ....I am thoroughly lost now. You said this article only refers to ESN?? Um, what are we supposed to be talking about then? Honestly, I have read back through all of the posts and I thought this was what was in question...?

[PlatinumYorkies]

Originally Posted by gymbo68

OK...I was gonna leave this alone and after this I will (well maybe) ....but I am sitting here watching the dog whisperer...which I believe several members have said he is a great place to turn for dog knowledge....anyway-
He at 8:52 on his show said ----

"it is very important that we have to spay/neuter our dogs it is important to their well being"

a rather interesting statement from someone viewed as an expert.....I know several here have referenced him in the past....I wonder if he has any info on his website......

just an fyi....

That's quite interesting...The Man who whispers to the doggies say you should spay/neuter. He can't be wrong???? Now?

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

...I resigned.

Um...did this statement make a difference? I think that this would end in nothing more than what it is now and could take alot of time...which I don't have enough of as it is....besides, everybody has lost interest and is getting annoyed, so...who are we trying to prove this to?

[Itspuppyluv]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Um...did this statement make a difference? I think that this would end in nothing more than what it is now and could take alot of time...which I don't have enough of as it is....besides, everybody has lost interest and is getting annoyed, so...who are we trying to prove this to?

The gravediggers burying that poor horse?