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WHEN is a breeder a breeder? This may sound like a wierd question and I hope no one is offended by it as that is not my intent (I COME IN PEACE...lol), but I noticed on the Breeder Facts thread that some of you say you have been breeding yorkies longer than you have been having litters, some by as much as 3 years. As a lay person I just assumed that you weren't a breeder until you had a litter or until you had a pregnant female. When is a breeder a breeder? When they start researching it? When they decide they are going to breed? When they buy their first breeding dog? When they have their first litter? or something else? |
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Here's my opinion... Once a person intentionally puts two animals together and creates new life, they are a breeder. It can be a GOOD one, a BAD one, or one WITH or WITHOUT knowledge, doesn't really matter when describing the term "breeder". This could go for dogs, cats, rabbits, cows, horses, whatever. If a person intentionally creates life among living creatures, I would have to say they are a breeder. |
You are a Breeder, when you breed (Mate a female with a Male ) and whelp a Litter. Plus most Breeders raise and place the pups to. Then the cycle goes on and on. |
question I can buy a violin, I can look at it, handle it, listen to violin music, talk to other violinists, go to concerts..but until I learn to play it, I am not a violinist, right? The word "breeder" is one who reproduces animals...not reading, studying, learning..but doing it. Putting into practice. IMO BUT...the preparation will determine how good a breeder a person will be..and anyone who prepares well is to be commended..most do not. |
Breeder In my opinion (for what it is worth) a breeder becomes a breeder when they actually breed.. I spent two years researching the yorkshire terrier breed and the lines, before I actually ever bred for a litter of puppies.. I wanted to know the aspects to breeding/showing as well.. I also went to many many conformation shows, before I even went into a show ring.. I did research on the genetic defects of the yorkshire terrier and what lines I wanted to be a part of my program along with the lines I wanted nothing to do with.. Honestly what makes me sick to my stomach is when people just throw two dogs together for breeding and NEVER do any of the necessary homework to make sure they are breeding for healthy pups above all else! It amazes me how many so-called breeders cannot even tell you what is in their dogs pedigree, if they even know what a pedigree is! :mad: |
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A breeder is a person who practices the vocation of mating carefully selected specimens of the same breed to reproduce specific, consistently replicable qualities and characteristics. on the breeder facts thread http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27267 I have four yorkies that are just for lovin' at the present time. Do you intend in breeding your kids in the future "at the present time" are your words, which implies perhaps youre considering it in the future. |
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I agree! I love Pat's analogy, too! Kimberly, I love the definition that you posted...everyone should follow this! |
I would agree, IMO, you would be classified as a breeder when you can consider the litter "your own," if that makes any sense at all. I guess my answer on the other thread was not a clear one and somewhat confusing. (It seemed so to me when I re-read it.) I would have to say that technically, I have been a breeder since August, but I studied and whelped under other breeders/mentors beforehand...which IMO is a neccessity and very important to experience first hand before proceeding on your own. :thumbup: But hey, we all gotta start somewhere, right! :D |
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Now if it was "good breeder" it would be something else. |
Maybe mine was confusing... I do agree with everyone..but I don't explain it the same way. I usually say I've been a breeder for 5 yrs but only had pups the past 3. Doesn't really make sense now that Pat used the Violin analogy. I guess I've only been an active breeder for 3 yrs..lolol. Ok.. |
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Really though the reason I started the thread was that several breeders on here say thay have been "breeding yorkies" for longer than they have had litters. I like the defintition too...where is it from? |
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breeder definition provided by Wikipedia - gotta love google! |
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See, that's exactly what I mean!!!! :jump28ib: I meant to say I dated it all 1/6/05 and it was all wrong...see, I am very :confused: today! |
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I liked Rose's thoughts. Just because I have a piano does not make me a pianist. IMHO you are a breeder when you mate two animals of wat ever type. You don't call yourself a parent until you have that child that you cherish and love. The prep time that you do before you become a breeder will determine in most how good of a breeder you will be. The true test is if you did your homework and learned as much as you could and will follow the standard. |
breeders One thing important to remember...I have met 5 year breeders who were more informed then ones who have bred for 25..honestly. I was talking to a guy who has bred for 10 yrs and never heard of an inguinal hernia. Another breeder forum has a breeder of about 5 yrs who asked me what brucellois was...do you know how hard it is not to give them a kick in the butt? |
I am finding the same thing and some of the topics that are raised and there are breeders who aren't even aware of the issue...it shocks me and it happens all the time. There is so much to learn just as a yorkie owner much less a breeder. That is why this forum and others like it are so important as long as the info disseminated is accurate. EVEN VETS know very little most times and that is really scary!! If you can't trust or rely on your breeder or your vet....it's just YOU!!! |
There are many people that has breed two dogs and say they are a breeder. To me a breeder is someone that has Studied and learned as much as they can and has had more then one litter. I have breed Boxers and Pittbulls for many many years but I have never had a litter of Yorkies. One can study and learn all they can and still forget a lot, I keep copy's of every thing I learn and have folders on it all, So I can go back and refresh my memory when needed.There is no way I can remember every thing. I think there are many people that have had one litter and consider their self's as breeders, to me they are not breeders.They are someone that is learning to breed. |
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