1 pregnant dog maybe 2
 

So let me start off by saying I am going to get both my girl dogs spayed.
My dog Roxy had puppies a year ago. It was planned and the puppies went to my relatives so they all still see each other. She had 4 puppies, 3 girls 1 boy. We kept one of the girls. We were up at my in laws and brought both our girl dogs like we always do because they all love to play. They have the boy dog. As soon as we got there Roxy ran in the back yard with the boy dog and they tied. Then 29 days later we went up there and they put the boy dog in another room so there was no chance of it happening to my other dog and then when we were getting ready to leave one of their friends let the boy dog out and the puppy and him tied. So basically Roxy's son got her knocked up and maybe his sister. Needless to say we don't bring them off there anymore. And we won't until we get them spayed. Roxy is 59 days pregnant and if Puppy is she is 30 days. I am realllyyyy hoping Puppy is not since she is only 3.2 lbs. I asked the vet right after and they told me there is noting I can do.
So now Roxy is pregnant with 4 more puppies and Puppy might be. Has anyone had a dog that little have babies? I am really worried about her.

I feel very sad for your dogs, especially the puppy. You should of had her spayed as soon as she went out of heat. Her life can very well be in danger. I pray she is not pregnant. It is not to late to have her spayed. Talk to your vet about that.

To answer your question, yes, dogs that small get bred and some can have pups naturally but many end up having a c-section or worse they die from a ruptured uterus.

I pray everything goes well with both. Please let us know how it turns out.

Don't ever go to that vet again, his response was 100% wrong. Go see another vet now, not sure if they can do an emergency spay now...but your going to need this vet for when she delivers. Your pup is at a very, very, very high risk.

Others will be along...gosh, I'm really dumbfounded here....Please do find a decent vet asap.

"Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference." Puppy is only 3.2 lbs.do an emergency spay now........It is not to late to have her spayed.Don't ever go to that vet again, his response was 100% wrong. Go see another vet now........Her life can very well be in danger.

OMG ! Your vet said nothing can be done:eek: Well he's a moron & there most certainly is something you can do. EMERGENCY SPAY ASAP ! I fully believe he told you that because he's seeing $$$$$$$ Because what he SHOULD have said is " It would be in her BEST INTEREST to do a spay first thing in the morning " But since he didn't, you NEED a new vet NOW.

In addition to what the others said, your girl is too young to risk a breeding.

Find another vet now or you are truly taking your puppy's life in your hands.

I am absolutely stunned and amazed that the male dog can instantaneously tie with these females! Usually, there is a little meet and greet, and then flirting and dancing around before the male mounts and ties....at least 2-3 minutes where an owner can QUICKLY see what as happened and intervene IMMEDIATELY to prevent the impending act.....and in a tiny little maiden pup, it takes longer than 2 seconds for the male to get to the baby and "do the deed". I think you need to be suspect of the itentions of these people that "accidentally" let this intact male dog breed these two females.....I am sorry, but I think they planned the entire events, and I can not immagine why this little 3# baby was allowed to even get to 30-something days before she was rushed to a vet and the pregnancy was terminated with an immediate spay. This 3# baby is in danger and you have every reason to be worried about her....this could very easil;y kill her. You should find a vet that has the knowledge and experience to recognize this situation for what it is, and will spay this little puppy IMMEDIATELY. Sooooooooo much time has been wasted, but it is still not too late to save this puppy's life.....not to mention the genetic time bombs you are cultivating with the inbreeding you are doing. This is sooooooooooooooo sad.....these poor, unfortunate souls have absolutely NO ONE looking out for their best interest..........

Does the puppy even have a name?

Puppy is only 14 months old per the OP's earlier posts. Very, very sad and irresponsible.

Some experienced males can be very quick if the female is willing and ready. It can take a matter of seconds. In this case we don't know how long the male and young female were together since someone else let the male out.

I would be very concerned about this being an inbreeding. There is a very good chance for some birth deformities.

I'm confused about why anyone would bring their females in heat to a home with an intact male, and one that is related to them:confused: A few years ago when my 3lb little one came into heat, (even though I kept them apart) I was so worried my little male might have still got to her (her daddy) that she went right to the vet and was spayed, no problem at all. I wasn't about to take any chances on one that tiny having pups. I would think an emergency spay could still be done before she gets much further along.

These intact, in heat females were obviously left unsupervised and unobserved while in the presence of an intact male, however they managed to "get together". I have experienced males, and it still takes a minute or two for them to get mounted and tied. If the dogs were being watched as astutely as any female in heat being around an intact male should have been, this could have been stopped. These girls should have been crated, or the male should have been crated ESPECIALLY after the initial "mistake" of the male getting let out and breeding his mom. That little maiden certainly did not know what was happening and I do not think a male could have rushed her, mounted her and got her bred before someone could have intervened. Now if the dogs were being allowed to run and play together, unsupervised, sure.....not at all out of the question.....but SURELY, in heat females were not allowed to run with an intact male simply because they all "love to play together"?????? I hear about them accidnetally getting put together.....I guess I just am incapable of getting my mind around this situation ever taking place at all, let alone happening twice during the same visit. I am sorry..... Someone in that house wanted those two females bred. OP needs to address that issue.

It was not the same visit. The puppy's mom got bred about 59 days ago. She is definitely pregnant and ready to have 4 pups. The puppy got bred by her brother 29 days after the mom was bred. They don't know yet if she is pregnant. A brother to sister breeding is not good. The mother to son is also risky. I hope the op keeps us updated on how it turns out. The size of the puppy really concerns me.

Categorically there is something that can be done, and most especially should be done with the brother to sister mating. See the link below. I don't know where your vet went to school but he was 100% wrong about there being nothing that can be done. In fact you can take action right now to terminate the young gals pregnancy. Find a vet who knows what they are doing. As you wish to spay anyway, just go that route now and do an emergency spay. Trust me it will be much less risky than letting a 3.2 lb young female to try to whelp puppies. And why risk bringing in puppies to the world that can have a whole host of problems from being way too closely related

Pregnancy Termination in Dogs and Cats

Absolutely she can be spayed.

There is a saying that goes like this; Ignorance of the law, is no defense under the law.

In terms of breeding and having in your care not one but 2 intact females, there is simply no excuse for the following:

1) Bringing not one but two females that were in heat over to a house that not only had: a) an intact male but b) one that is very closely related to the females.

2) Knowing your females were in heat, allowing first the Mother to play with the son off lead, un-supervised in the backyard. And you are surprised that they tied?

3) If you did not know they were in heat? Why not, it is your responsibility as a dog owner who elects to keep intact females to know when they come into heat, and to properly safeguard them from inadvertent breedings. If you are not sure, always err on the side of caution. That is assume that they are and protect them appropriately.

This was posted by her in her picture album area about Roxy's 1st Litter with the X-ray pictures.

She got knocked up. Man it happened so fast. I saw that a boy yorkie got out quick and when I turned around to see my Roxy they were stuck together and the rest is history.


SO, this means that ALL 3 of these litters are OPPS litters. Makes no sense to me at all. Just shaking my head on this.

Wow. This is like the "perfect storm" example of everything that could be wrong about a breeding:

1. Female too tiny, which will endanger her life in carrying/delivering the litter.
2. Bred to her own brother, which will cause any bad recessive genes to double up and deformities to be expressed.
3. Female way too young, she will not have the maturity for her instincts to kick in, so will not know what is happening to her or how to take care of her pups.

It was all avoidable and now you and Puppy have got a big BIG BIG problem on your hands. The only way to fix this now is emergency spay. You live in a major metropolitan area and there are bound to be MANY good vets that can easily handle this. Please get her the help that she needs.

And lest we forget, it is exceeding doubtfull any of the three dogs mated had any breed specific health tests what-so-ever.

Sounds like most guys :p But seriously, how experienced can this boy be? He's only 14 months old.

So, knowing that the mother and son had tied, what goes through someone's head that they would take ANOTHER intact female up there? And now she say's "needless to say we won't be taking them up there again...." It just NOW dawns on her that putting intact dogs around each other might not be a good thing?
Once *might* be a mistake. After that, when you know the consequences of your actions, you are being just plain irresponsible and reckless.

Now, let the hand wringing begin about "if YT doesn't help the OP, who will? Frankly, if anyone on here thinks that telling this person anything other than "get that little one to a proper vet and get ALL Of those dog spayed and neutered" is either a good idea or helpful needs to have their head examined.

Have keyboard. Will breed.

Correct me if I am wrong, as it's a bit confusing...but did they just breed mother to son and brother to sister?? OR was it Father to daughter??

I wonder what kind of vet is going to say that there is nothing that can be done. Most vets have no problem terminating a pregnancy and spaying an animal...ESPECIALLY when the females life is in danger...and the 3 lb dogs life IS DEFINITELTY is grave danger. Terminating pregnancies during a spay is a fairly common occurrence...sometimes, the owners will bring their pets in for a spay, not even knowing their animals are pregnant.

Since the owner has decided to have puppies, shouldn't she schedule a planned C-Section for the 3lb dog?? I am HIGHLY doubtful that a 3 lb dog is going to be able to pass a puppy through the birth canal. They are going to be lucky if the dog lives through the pregnancy itself, let alone the birthing of puppies!! So very sad:(:(


I can MAYBE understand one oops...but the first female should have been spayed after the first oops and the daughter should have been spayed too...ESPECIALLY since she is 3 lbs and her being pregnant IS A LIFE AND DEATH situation. I know there's been posts recently on here on the pro's/con's of spaying and neutering pets...but THIS is a perfect example why most rescue's/breeders require early spay/neuter.

I am fairly new to here...so I am curious....where does everyone keep getting these in-tact dogs with no spay/neuter contracts??? It seems like at least once a week, someones "pet' dog is getting "knocked up" and they come here looking for advice.

Are people just not holding up their end of the spay/neuter contract?? Or do they not have one...and if not, who doesn't hand out spay/neuter contracts??

I am pretty sure even the last pet store I went to had spayed/ neutered dogs and/or a spay/neuter contract as a minimum.

I am all for helping the pups but I to think this breeder was very irresponsible especially since the 3lb girl who has now been bred by her brother also was the product of what she called an OOPs breeding. You have been given the same advice when Roxy was pregnant before so I really doubt us telling you is going to do any good but I have a 3lb girl and there is no way I would put her life in danger like this. Please this time do what is responsible and have her spayed before she has to risk her tiny little life having these puppies.

Gosh, guys, when you start a thread don't you usually keep tabs on it & respond accordingly? Seems the OP is no longer interested :confused::confused::confused:

All I can say is I can't believe the vet would let the 3lb puppy out of the clinic without making sure she wasn't pregnant and terminating the pregnancy right away if she was. Hopefully Roxy's mom will take the baby to another vet ASAP.

Just curious to the OP... why didn't you spay them? and why was the boy intact still? Seems kind of irresponsible in many ways unless you were wanting this to happen, and if you were, I'm not sure you were thinking about the best interest of any of the dogs. :( Roxy looks like a sweetheart. Sorry she's having to go through another litter again because of a mistake :(

I can't believe OP hasn't showed back up....no urgency here....? wth?

Especially when you have NO idea what pedigrees are being combined......and I also am very concerned about the 3# size.....Hopefully, OP will not waste another day before she takes that tiny female and have her spayed.

I know 3 people that just bought dogs from pet stores....no spay/neuter contract. Two of those people will probably do the right thing, but that third person is going to be one of those that ends up with an "oops" breeding, probably every 6 months or so.
Where do they get all these intact dogs from? BYB's and pet stores. BYB's could care less what happens to that dog, as long as they get THEIR money for the dog.

These threads are read by thousands of people, over many, many months, even years. Hopefully, there will be valid points that will educate another reader, at another time. If conversations stopped when posters stopped responding, there would be so many lost opportunities for educating anyone, including the OP.....and a lot of time, the op is still reading responses, just not engaging in conversation.

I THOUGHT I remembered this from the first time her intact female was "knocked up"....(excuse the crude terminology from me, I am only quoting)....all the op's little ladies getting "knocked up'....now, who must assume accountability for allowing this to happen, not once, not twice, but now 3 times??? I have no doubt it will all go down again, just the same way, in 6 months or so......"ooooooops"....?

Gotcha....that particular doggy in the window that I was talking about was almost $1800.00, btw!!

Lets hope the OP comes back and sees this thread...maybe she will consider going to another vet and at a minimum, terminating the 3lb dogs pregancy.

Has anyone seen a 3lb dog give birth to a litter on her own and survive??