Absolutely she can be spayed.

There is a saying that goes like this; Ignorance of the law, is no defense under the law.

In terms of breeding and having in your care not one but 2 intact females, there is simply no excuse for the following:

1) Bringing not one but two females that were in heat over to a house that not only had: a) an intact male but b) one that is very closely related to the females.

2) Knowing your females were in heat, allowing first the Mother to play with the son off lead, un-supervised in the backyard. And you are surprised that they tied?

3) If you did not know they were in heat? Why not, it is your responsibility as a dog owner who elects to keep intact females to know when they come into heat, and to properly safeguard them from inadvertent breedings. If you are not sure, always err on the side of caution. That is assume that they are and protect them appropriately.

This was posted by her in her picture album area about Roxy's 1st Litter with the X-ray pictures.

She got knocked up. Man it happened so fast. I saw that a boy yorkie got out quick and when I turned around to see my Roxy they were stuck together and the rest is history.


SO, this means that ALL 3 of these litters are OPPS litters. Makes no sense to me at all. Just shaking my head on this.

Wow. This is like the "perfect storm" example of everything that could be wrong about a breeding:

1. Female too tiny, which will endanger her life in carrying/delivering the litter.
2. Bred to her own brother, which will cause any bad recessive genes to double up and deformities to be expressed.
3. Female way too young, she will not have the maturity for her instincts to kick in, so will not know what is happening to her or how to take care of her pups.

It was all avoidable and now you and Puppy have got a big BIG BIG problem on your hands. The only way to fix this now is emergency spay. You live in a major metropolitan area and there are bound to be MANY good vets that can easily handle this. Please get her the help that she needs.

And lest we forget, it is exceeding doubtfull any of the three dogs mated had any breed specific health tests what-so-ever.

Sounds like most guys :p But seriously, how experienced can this boy be? He's only 14 months old.

So, knowing that the mother and son had tied, what goes through someone's head that they would take ANOTHER intact female up there? And now she say's "needless to say we won't be taking them up there again...." It just NOW dawns on her that putting intact dogs around each other might not be a good thing?
Once *might* be a mistake. After that, when you know the consequences of your actions, you are being just plain irresponsible and reckless.

Now, let the hand wringing begin about "if YT doesn't help the OP, who will? Frankly, if anyone on here thinks that telling this person anything other than "get that little one to a proper vet and get ALL Of those dog spayed and neutered" is either a good idea or helpful needs to have their head examined.

Have keyboard. Will breed.

Correct me if I am wrong, as it's a bit confusing...but did they just breed mother to son and brother to sister?? OR was it Father to daughter??

I wonder what kind of vet is going to say that there is nothing that can be done. Most vets have no problem terminating a pregnancy and spaying an animal...ESPECIALLY when the females life is in danger...and the 3 lb dogs life IS DEFINITELTY is grave danger. Terminating pregnancies during a spay is a fairly common occurrence...sometimes, the owners will bring their pets in for a spay, not even knowing their animals are pregnant.

Since the owner has decided to have puppies, shouldn't she schedule a planned C-Section for the 3lb dog?? I am HIGHLY doubtful that a 3 lb dog is going to be able to pass a puppy through the birth canal. They are going to be lucky if the dog lives through the pregnancy itself, let alone the birthing of puppies!! So very sad:(:(


I can MAYBE understand one oops...but the first female should have been spayed after the first oops and the daughter should have been spayed too...ESPECIALLY since she is 3 lbs and her being pregnant IS A LIFE AND DEATH situation. I know there's been posts recently on here on the pro's/con's of spaying and neutering pets...but THIS is a perfect example why most rescue's/breeders require early spay/neuter.

I am fairly new to here...so I am curious....where does everyone keep getting these in-tact dogs with no spay/neuter contracts??? It seems like at least once a week, someones "pet' dog is getting "knocked up" and they come here looking for advice.

Are people just not holding up their end of the spay/neuter contract?? Or do they not have one...and if not, who doesn't hand out spay/neuter contracts??

I am pretty sure even the last pet store I went to had spayed/ neutered dogs and/or a spay/neuter contract as a minimum.

I am all for helping the pups but I to think this breeder was very irresponsible especially since the 3lb girl who has now been bred by her brother also was the product of what she called an OOPs breeding. You have been given the same advice when Roxy was pregnant before so I really doubt us telling you is going to do any good but I have a 3lb girl and there is no way I would put her life in danger like this. Please this time do what is responsible and have her spayed before she has to risk her tiny little life having these puppies.

Gosh, guys, when you start a thread don't you usually keep tabs on it & respond accordingly? Seems the OP is no longer interested :confused::confused::confused:

All I can say is I can't believe the vet would let the 3lb puppy out of the clinic without making sure she wasn't pregnant and terminating the pregnancy right away if she was. Hopefully Roxy's mom will take the baby to another vet ASAP.

Just curious to the OP... why didn't you spay them? and why was the boy intact still? Seems kind of irresponsible in many ways unless you were wanting this to happen, and if you were, I'm not sure you were thinking about the best interest of any of the dogs. :( Roxy looks like a sweetheart. Sorry she's having to go through another litter again because of a mistake :(

I can't believe OP hasn't showed back up....no urgency here....? wth?

Especially when you have NO idea what pedigrees are being combined......and I also am very concerned about the 3# size.....Hopefully, OP will not waste another day before she takes that tiny female and have her spayed.

I know 3 people that just bought dogs from pet stores....no spay/neuter contract. Two of those people will probably do the right thing, but that third person is going to be one of those that ends up with an "oops" breeding, probably every 6 months or so.
Where do they get all these intact dogs from? BYB's and pet stores. BYB's could care less what happens to that dog, as long as they get THEIR money for the dog.

These threads are read by thousands of people, over many, many months, even years. Hopefully, there will be valid points that will educate another reader, at another time. If conversations stopped when posters stopped responding, there would be so many lost opportunities for educating anyone, including the OP.....and a lot of time, the op is still reading responses, just not engaging in conversation.

I THOUGHT I remembered this from the first time her intact female was "knocked up"....(excuse the crude terminology from me, I am only quoting)....all the op's little ladies getting "knocked up'....now, who must assume accountability for allowing this to happen, not once, not twice, but now 3 times??? I have no doubt it will all go down again, just the same way, in 6 months or so......"ooooooops"....?

Gotcha....that particular doggy in the window that I was talking about was almost $1800.00, btw!!

Lets hope the OP comes back and sees this thread...maybe she will consider going to another vet and at a minimum, terminating the 3lb dogs pregancy.

Has anyone seen a 3lb dog give birth to a litter on her own and survive??