I have only had one c-section and we had to stay until she was awake. I feel so sorry for your friend though. She done the right thing for her Tinkerbell and she shouldn't beat herself up over this. If any of them live it will indeed be a miracle, but they do happen. we will have to keep praying.

Kim you are a wonderful friend to lend a hand to Tinkerbell's Mom, sounds like she really needed a friend I know I would have..

So Sad
 

:cry: So sorry to hear about this. What really gave me goosebumps was when you said that Tinkerbell was crying last time looking for her babies. I can only imagine. I hope for the best, and please keep us undated.

This is the sadiest thing ever. I have tears in my eyes just reading this. Poor Tinkerbell....I pray that at least one baby survives and I hope the friend keeps them together...that would be my christmas wish for Tinkerbell

Oh Kimberley I am almost crying too - pooooor little mommy...Do you think she can save any of the puppies ? Is that poor mommy going to be allright after all this ? I know they really do grieve and look for babies they've lost and I just felt awful reading she may lose all those babies....

What a sad time for her and I'm really glad your friend got her spayed - poor little Tinkerbell wasn't meant to be a mom...it's such a shame ...I hope you all can keep the puppies going... because she is just going to be devestated if they all don't make it...

You really did a wonderful thing helping your friend -best of luck to all of you and can you keep us updated ?

Thank goodness you insisted on taking her in...
 

Kimberley, you are such a good friend. I am so glad you insisted on going to the vet, or they may have lost Tink too...

I am so sad for your friend. This must be so heartbreaking for her. :(

That is just heart breaking. Please let her know that we are all thinking of her and praying for Tinkerbell and the little ones. This is just so very sad. I can't even imagine. Thanks for keeping us updated.

Poor little momma!!! I so hope that at least one of her babies beats the odds. She deserves to have babies to love and nuture! What a great person you are. How heartbreaking to watch them trying to hold on. Please keep us updated!

Well, talked to my friend this morning and Tinkerbell is doing well. She's not up and walking yet...still groggy, though.

Puppies all died 30 minutes after I left. Poor friend got no sleep last night worrying about Tinkerbell. She drank a lot this morning so she got a pain pill. But when she first woke up, she was screaming and crying...probably doped out of her mind.

Oh my god....that jerked my heart. That poor poor mommy and those poor babies.. Oh Kim - please talk to that breeder and make sure this doesn't happen again ...that's so sad. :( :( :( :( :(

I hope that poor mommy can get over this and she sure needs to be pampered and spoiled for the rest of her life after going thru that kind of trauma

Well, when we first talked to the vet, she told him, SPAY HER, TOO! So, it will not happen again. She's learned the hard way this time.

:cry8: :cry8: :cry8: :cry8: :cry8: That just isn't fair!! Very Sad!!!

Hey Kimberly I am so sorry for your friend I hope all goes well with Tinkerbell poor baby.

Thanks for the update. I am so very sorry for what has happened to your friend and most of all to little Tinkerbell. I just pray that she gets stronger and doesn't grieve too much, though I know that is a lot to ask. Hugs going out to Tinkerbell. :girl_hug:

Kimberley, I know when a lot of these little ones come out of anesthesia they will wake up screaming and crying. They are just scared and because I was in the room I could immediately hold them and talk to them and they would calm right down. I am sure it is like a humane that goes through surgery and you are scared when you first walk up because you don't remember much and why are you in this strange room.

Aw, that is so sad,, that poor momma is heartbroken,, Ah,, I just wanna hold her for about a week,and console her..
Poor babies too..
This is so sad.

What a hard lesson to learn. I feel bad for all those involved.

I think the advise of stuffed animals was a good one. Can't hurt anyway.

So far (knocking on wood) I had not lost an entire litter. BUT I had a mom that had a false pregnancy she went through the entire motions. She was a little out of sorts at first.

I am glad Tinkerbell is now spayed. Glad the farmer vet new enough to do the spay and the section successfully.

One think I noticed is how long Friend let momma stay in labor. If it's hard labor that's too long. But in this perticular case it didn't matter, pups were premature.

Hugs to you and friend and tinkerbelle!

Irene

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I am sorry if this breeder is a good friend of yours Kimberley, but I am going to say it...this is a perfect example of a breeder not putting the best interest of the animal first.
This poor bitch had demonstrated twice that she was incapable of carrying a litter to whelping time...but she was rebred for the third time. I will not ask why, because there is no legitimate reason. She could have been a world champion and the end of her line and the breeding should not have been done.
The bitch was allowed to labor far too long..why the wait? The only reason is, the possible prevention of the cost of C-section..there is no other legitimate reason to allow a bitch in obvious trouble to wait a few more hours..the sooner the section, the better. Each hours you wait, the poorer the bitches condition to undergo surgery.

This was a no win breeding from the start..and a breeder knew it, but did it anyway. I am angry, very angry.

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Thanks for saying it like it is Pat~

Poor baby! Please give Tinkerbell extra hugs and kisses for me. For this poor baby to go through this 3 times is so sad. They do grieve just like a mother losing her baby. The breeder that we were going to go with, her yorkie did the same thing after all the puppies died. She kept crying and kept going from room to room looking for her babies. And her milk was still full so she was very uncomfortable.

Lesson Learned
 

Hi All,

I think this story and all of you have taught me a major lesson before anything was done. First of all, for those who don't know me yet I'm Nicole :) I just got my first Yorkie...first dog for that matter...a little over a month ago. She's 3+ months now. Number one: (please don't yell at me :D ) I bought her in a pet store. I had NO NO NO idea what a puppy mill was, and never heard of it. I know, I didn't do my research first. My fault. Trust me, I know better now! I did TONS of research after the fact. Better late than never, right? :rolleyes: Number two: So far I have learned a lot on this site about how to take better care of my Baby, i.e. Lepto shots, biting, etc. And Number three: The big lesson learned here (besides the puppymills), I'm not going to allow my Baby to have babies. She's not a tiny/teacup/whatever cutsie wootsie name they give these puppies. So far she's 4.5lbs. The reason I wanted to "get her pregnant" was so that I can give her company without paying a fortune for another puppy. How selfish was that??? I'm not a breeder and don't want to have to go through any heartbreak like this...especially if I don't know what I'm doing. Then what about the other pups? I know myself, I probably wouldn't want to give any up! I must have been crazy! Thank God I read posts on here first. I've decided to spay her at 6 months and eventually get her a companion. So you should all be greatful you straighten my behind out!! :thumbs up

PS. Once again...sorry about Tinkerbell and her babies. :angel2dl:

I am not going to yell at you. My Lacey was purchased at a local pet store and she was the best dog ever. We did not have a clue that it was bad to buy from pet stores because most get their dogs from puppy mills. I was only 15 when I got Lacey. My parents surprized me with her. Lacey did not have any health problems at all until she got kidney failure at age 13. Not every puppy bought at a pet store has a healty pet like mine. You live and learn. In fact, I did not think too much about it until I came here. Yorkie Talk has taught me a lot. I know I might not agree on everyone's opinions, but I just can't stay away. I have been hooked. I still can't get little Tinkerbell out of my head. I still can't stop thinking of that poor baby looking for her puppies. I wish I lived closer so I could give her a big hug and lots of attention. But, I am sure her owner is really comforting Tinkerbell right now. She needs all the love and attention she can get to help her through such a difficult time. My heart just breaks for her.

Nicole...I LOVED your post -

I remember back in the days I didn't know what a Puppy Mill was either - matter of fact - my husband got his first 2 cockers and we got Tessa together from what I now consider a mill - she is 10 years old but I STILL remember that awful place....It took me another 5 years before I was on the computer learning about them -

So many of us talk over and over about certain subjects...I know it gets very repeatative sometimes - What's nice to know is that someone actually listened and learned & may re-think some things based on the information they've read -

I applaud your post because it sounds like you really have made some good decisions based on your new knowledge. I too used to think I wanted "just one litter"....even my own vet encouraged me to breed Chanel - but based on the wealth of information on sites like this - I totally changed my tune also. I still love the idea of breeding but so far.... I leave it to the pros.

and I can't get Tinkerbell out of my head either - Kimberley - how is that poor baby doing ? I sure wish I could come hug her too - it's heartbreaking knowing she's missing her babies so much...do you think she'll ever be the same after this ?

How about this. I used to work at a mall pet store when I was 17. I didn't know any better either. I remember the pups did come shipped in crates and some were sick and had health issues. Now I won't even walk into one that sells pups and kittens. It bothers me to death that I worked and sold pups to people in that environment. Now I'm the opposite!

Don't feel bad, we aren't born knowing. Most importantly, you learned and know better now. YOu can educate someone else now..spread the word girl!!

Kim, this is such devastating news...I am so sorry for your friend, but more importantly Tinkerbell :( I know she is suffering a great deal over this, and I hope that she recovers from this soon. Like mentioned earlier, this furbaby deserves a life of pampering and spoiling, especially after this...Our prayers are with Tinkerbell.

Thanks, Pat! A good friend, not really but we do talk about once a month.

I agree...I would not have bred her this time, either with her history. Nor would I have allowed her to go as long as she did...I would have done it after 1 1/2 hours.

I understand your frustration. Tinkerbell went 4 hours from start of hard labor to c-section prep and start of surgery.

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Yorkies are the hardiest toy breed I am told..lets hope Tinkerbell bounces back very fast and can live a long happy life of a pet.

I agree. I called her again this evening but haven\'t heard back from her. I\'m worried but I\'m sure that she\'s been busy.

:cry: That poor poor baby. I feel so sad for her. The stuff animals will be a great help though. My bigger baby would have false pregencies every time she came into season. She would carry her stuffed babies everywhere with her. We got her spayed when she was 2 yrs old. She still steals Taffy\'s stuffed toys from her and hides them her. Baby treats them are real babys. I hope Tinkerbell does well. :cry: