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my vet made an apt for princess on her 40th day of pregnancy for an X-ray please let me know if it is too early or i can still see how many she will have please help thanks

I think that is a bit early...if you are certain on you days, have the xray dont day 56-58. All the little bones are calcified and you can see the babies clearly.

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Agreed. Do later 56 or so days. Did you ask the vet why they wanted to do so early the Xray?

Also were you the poster who asked for a mentor near to you and later you posted you found one?

Your mentor should have alerted you to the appropriate time for Xrays.

Also I know you are in Niagara Falls Canada correct.. Univ of Guelph is not that far away from you - a full spectrum teaching hospital.

Hamilton is ringing bells here for me - I have to look up to see if they have a teaching hospital there.

Oakville/Mississauga hospital - full spectrum emergency clinic. Great facility.

Not sure though they have any repro vets there. My repro vet is in Caledon Hills.

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hello she did tell me to wait to day 56 but my vet said 40 so i wasnt sure:confused:

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and a 2 hour drive is far there are vets near me so why would i go all the way out there to stress her out in the car i dont think thats such a good idea sorry my vet is just down the street and there another 5 min away i think i should just keep her close not to put her under any stress

Well let me see in Toronto I am 40 minutes away from Guelph and 1 hour away from Niagara Falls. So umm I guess I thought you should have some options - and I thought Guelph would be about 1 hour away not 2 hrs.

Well then as I said before ask your vet why they want to do at day 40? What is the benefit, and what are the risks? For example do you really want multiple Xrays on a pregnant bitch? What happens if nothing shows up with any clarity on day 40 = they going to recommend another Xray?

Maybe you are not sure of the breeding date? Perhaps the vet needs to see how far along she is because you are not sure of the breeding date?

To answer another comment. My dogs are never stressed in the car. The car is the bestest place for them to go. It means hiking, walking, swimming, playing; all good things.

Never thought a breeder would not train a dog to enjoy a car ride.

Yet another example of how not all vets are right up to date on procedures....especially where whelping and pregnancy is the topic. If you have a really good mentor that has been breeding Yorkies for many years, I will go out on a limb and say she probably can give you better direction than your vet, in some areas! You can listen to what she tells you, compare with your vet, let your vet know your mentor suggested doing something "this way" and WHY she does it that way, and see what the vet says....dont ever make your vet feel like you are challenging HIS knowledge...present it as a learning experience for YOU, not him!

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well first off im not a breeder my female got pregnant it wasnt meant to happen and another thing is i dont have a car i live in the city so i dont need a car so shes not use to going in the car we walk every were it is short distances

yes ill listen to my breeder since shes been doing it for years mabey the vet is not up to date i will check other vets to

thank you all for the comments

Judi I get that do not present as a challenge to the vet. I truly don't know how to present this info to her current vet. I have one way. And yeah I am the owner from hell, except no vets have banned me yet from their practice. :D

And Judi in our different ways we are both the owners from hell in one sense.

I moved a whole lot of earth for one of my gals to get seen sooner with a critical condition. My own vet moved his own things to get the pathology report done in 48 hrs.

I am going out on limb here in a small way. 40 days for Xrays - so not there unless the vet has an unstated reason why so early. If he/she doesn't know 40 days is too early. Quite simply I would bail from that vet.

Sorry dear but you are a breeder. You have elected to go with this pregnancy there were and are options for you to terminate. You didn't you are a breeder. The only good news here is you found some support and got a whelping coach.

But there are other things you need to consider. Such as your financial obligations to who ever will be the future owners of your pups you might place with them. What happens if they come up with Liver shunt, or LP, or CT or the many other diseases that afflict Yorkies?p

At the very least you need to consider these things. You are commited to bringing new life into this world. You are responsible for their health!

Awh I bet you have not considered the more far reaching ramifications of being a responsible breeder - oh yes I forgot just an "accidental" breeder.

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my dog will have all the financial support any dog can get ok all the pups are going to great homes as it will be with my family and we have the finaces to support them and all there need they will have this is the only litter she will have as i will have her spayed thank you for your comments

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I think the same red flag flopped up in gemys face as it did mine. Is the vet suggesting xray at 40 days because:
1) he just doesnt know that is too early?
2) because that way, he can say, "well didnt really see that much, will need to do another one"....(that is $$$$ for him!)
3) question about accuracy of breeding date

#1 calls into question regarding his knowledge base....
#2 calls into question his motivation for procedures he believes are necessary.
#3 does show his concern for accuracy in the breeding and demonstrates a
desire to make sure the female is getting what is best for her, in the
correct time frame.
If the issue is #1 or #2, suggesting an alternative plan for you with vet care was appropriate and admirable.....again, with the health of the momma and babies gemy's foremost concern.
As far as the stress of a car trip, please undersand that is a concept breeders are not really familiar with....our ladies are frequently in the car...competitions, dog shows, training events, groomers, vets, dog parks, play dates, etc....any of my ladies would be just as comfortable whelping in the back of my SUV as they are at the foot of my bed! Also, as breeders, we are accustomed to looking at a situation and options, and measuring risk ratios....to us, the risk of a car ride is minimal if faced with the possibility of a vet not familiar with whelping....#1 above!....having to assist in the whelping of your babies.

Good that is nice to hear. May I also suggest you do a Bile acid test at 16wks on each puppy prior to placement?

That will help to rule out Liver Disease as I am sure you know is very prevalent in this breed.

Then also suggest a Trupanion Pet Insurance plan as of six months ago it was the only plan that does cover genetic diseases.

So here we go on genetic diseases:

LP surgery anywhere from $2K to $3.5K dependent upon the severity
LS that is Liver shunt surgery and btw no surgeon in Ontario is really an expert at least $2K or to $3K
CT collapsing trachea heartbreaking no treatment for it.

Hip Dysplasia and or Leggs Perthes - Surgery to correct about the same as above.

PRA - Eye disease no surgical options the dog goes blind.

Cataracts - No surgery to date - well actually there is but the surgery cost is way out there

Hyperuricosuria - Stones very painfull condition. And sometimes surgery can be an option. Cost unknown to me.

So I am very happy that you will personally warrant and indeminfy for your future puppy owners against all those conditions and will pay for the surgery where applicable.

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My vet loves me! but she knows what I like and what I dont like !!"

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i am sure of her tie date as i was with her i was talking to someone turned around and they tied it happen 2 times. a day apart so i know what days she tied her 56th day is may 2 so tuesday she will be 40 days and he made an apt for an X-ray he said thats the earliest we can do it so now i will go in and get just a check up and make an apt on day 54 so she will get her xray then

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they are my pups i will do everything i can to assure they get the best care as i love my dogs with all my heart they are innocent and derserve the best

LOL so does mine. But he is very knowledgeable, and willing to discuss and even review info I present.

Of course I come in and send to him all the testing I do on my dogs. CERFS HD and ED thryoid, etc.

He was very sorry to see at six years old Magic was ddx'd with "juvenile" cataract. He knew I would retire him from breeding, which I did, and contacted all the puppy owners. It was a very small cataract but nevertheless there. And btw he is not neutered and will not be unless of testicular cancer.

Despite CERF;s at 18 months 30 months 48 months nothing!

The breeders life is one of much angst at times.....:mad:

First tie, perhaps, an accident, second tie makes it a "planned breeding"......you ARE a breeder!.....Fortunately, you know what the days are so you know when she is due to deliver. You can be all prepared, which is mandatory! Good luck with your momma and her impending whelp!

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if you want to call it that sure i wont argue its a one time thing after she has the babies i will fix her so we wont have to worry about accidents
and thank you i hope everything goes well thank you for all the advice

Want to call it that? You deliberately let your female tie with what I hope is the same dog the next day? How else do we call it?

That was no accident this first pregnancy. So what health tests did you actually do? Before "accidentally" planning to breed her...

Keep in mind all the health tests I posted above; gawd I truly hope those puppies are not a minefield for their future owners.

And I do hope your bitch whelps without complications and all will be well.

How old is the bitch, did the OP say anywhere?

no i didnt let them tie on purpose sorry u got it all twisted i have a male that i adopted the owner told me he was fixed so i didnt think i had to worry my girl came into heat and i didnt think i had to worry till i turned and saw them tie then i was looking for a place to put him while she was in heat but they tied again i couldnt find a place as i am not from here i was on vacation so it was not on purpose that it happend anyways its done and all i can do is care for her and the pups the best i can ok i pray every day everything will be fine

she is 3 on june 1st and what is an op?

OP means Original Poster or Original Posting. I saw you were logged off, so I didn't ask you directly. Thanks for answering. At least she is not too young or too old to be having her first litter. I hope everything goes well, and I would really suggest you get your little girl spayed afterwards. How big is she? I hope more than 5 lbs?

Is the male also a yorkie?

Well in North America it is very easy even for a novice owner to tell if a dog is fixed. They have no Balls!

A place to put him? I am sorry I don't understand that. Are you saying you went on vacation in Feb or March with your two dogs, the male that you did not know was not neutered, and then your female dog who came in heat when all of you were on vacation? May I suggest the bathroom door at least when you were on vacation, or hey how about crates, or xpens. That first day when you saw a tie, you knew you had a problem.

You come back, then go to vet, get her spayed after her heat ended, or as I said before a mismatch shot.

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yes she was 5.8 pounds before pregnancy and the male was 4.5 pounds they are both yorkies and i am getting her spayed as son as she has the babies i dont want this to happen again thanks you

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im sorry i dont believe in abortions and thats what for saying
and keeping him in the bathroom 24/7 is not right thats cruel also he will pee everywere if kept in a small space locked up
yes i went on vacation for 6 months its been 2 months now i adopted him on my vacation so i didnt have much time im use to having girls so i didnt notice if he had his balls on or off sorry