I have a few books by Myra, and I know she is a very good EXPERT on the subject,but two years ago, I had a bitch pregnant with one puppy and she started discharging green stuff, I thought , i knew better and thought it was odd but by reading her book it seems it was not an emergency situation and I waited 24 hours, in which my bitch temperature was going up and down, the next day I took her to the vet and found out the baby had died and she needed an emergency spay to save her life, and I lost the puppy, so since then I am very, very weary of green stuff before labor. it could be nothing but it could be something bad, only a good vet can determine what the cause is.. Best of luck with your girl.. hugs, |
Thanks for the update. Good thoughts to you and kissie for and easy and uneventful labor. |
Carmen I understand why most would be unsettled by seeing the green discharge. Heck I have been on both sides of the spectrum with it. One litter was totally lost , and the other all came out beautifully. I don't think it is just the green discharge that the article is referring to it is more about the color and amount. With the litter I lost it was a dark green to almost black discharge that was oozing out continuosly. With the more recent litter it was just a very small amount and it was more greenish in color. With the most recent litter she also whelped within the 24 hour time. Was I scared you betcha because of my previous dealing with the green discharge. A friend I was talking to told me about the article and shared it with me and I took on a different perspective. This same bitch also had 4 pups one right after the other then went to sleep and an hour later out pops the 5th pup. Surprised both of us. After she had the 4th pup I was ready to head to the vet because I knew from the xray there were 5 in their. But that same friend pointed me to another article from Myra called the whelping pause. I had never experienced it so I was all set for having a c section done for the last pup. But my girl was not in distress. I believe that this is another reason breeding should not be done unless you have done all the necessary health testing, have a mentor, watched a whelping and helped, and you know your dogs. |
Hi everyone, I had a stressfull night and day. After all night panting and nesting, she delivered this morning a dead puppy. I waited like 2 hours, she was pushing and having hard contraction but nothing. I didn't want to take any chance. We went to the emergency vet. She had a hard delivery of the second puppy because he came backwards and all the efforts of the vet couldn't revive him and sadly he couldn't make it. You cannot imagine how i was feeling, hoping for the best but thinking of the worst. Thank G-d, with all my prayers, the third was pushed out easily. She is a little girl and she seems healthy. But she didn't expell the 3rd placenta. The vet put 2 shot to help her. I'm still watching her until she does because I know it can be dangerous for mom. Any advice? Until I don't see the placenta out, I'm still worry.:animal36:animal36 |
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She has to be exhausted. So sorry about the two. Hopefully she will pass that soon so she can rest and take care of her baby She is a beautiful girl |
my condolences on the loss of the two puppies, and happy she has a little girl. Green discharge is my worse nightmare. your girl is gorgeous and her little girl too.. hugs, |
I'm sorry for your loss but glad that you were able to save the one puppy.... |
Green discharge BEFORE labor starts is almost always indicitive of a dead puppy.....AFTER labor starts and you start delivering, it isnt unusual to get some greenish discharge between puppies, but green discharge as a precursor to labor, is more times than not, a bad sign. I was not feeling good about that for you and your little lady. She is a beautiful little lady and she has a healthy little girl....she wont miss the other babies....Congratulations! |
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So sorry you lost the 2 pups.It's never easy. I still stand by the document I posted. And Yorkimom1 we will have to agree to disagree on that. It all depends on the color of the green discharge and how much. Like I said in an earlier posted I lost a litter and the color of the discharge was greenish black and there was alot of it continuosly. and yes I did lose the entire litter. But the last litter I had there was a green discharge but it was alot lighter in color and 24 hours later she started hard labor. All pups were whelped and are healthy in their new homes. So it's one of those things that you have to be able to know the differences in amount and color. Also if there is hard labor for more than an hour with no results then it is best to get to a vet. |
thank you Thank you all for your big support and help. Thanks to you I learned a lot of things I never knew even if I had dogs all my life but this is the fist time that one of my dog is pregnant and i live all the miracle of life and also the sadness of death with her. But I still have the problem of the third placenta. Yesterday the vet put her 2 shots to expell it but until now she didn't. Even if she looks good, she is eating and taking care of her baby, I will take her again to the vet. :animal36:animal-pa |
I am sorry you lost two pups but I am so thankful that the one pup survived and that the mom is okay. I would not worry that much about the last placenta. Most likely it could of passed when you were not looking and the momma ate it. Just monitor the mommas temperature. As long as her temp is not over 102 everything should be fine. You also need to keep a close eye on the momma's teats. If the teats are red, hard or lumpy that means she is getting mastitis and she will need some antibiotics. I always give mine a little amoxicillin and the teats will go back to normal within 24 hours. You can also use a warm compress on the teats until they go back to normal. Hopefully you won't have to deal with that but often with only one pup nursing the momma might produce to much milk. As for the green discharge, after having bred yorkies for 16 years, I can tell you from experience that it is not a good sign and it is not normal. I have a gut feeling the first puppy was probably already dead before the hard labor started. Of all the litters I have delivered I have rarely seen a green discharge prior to the first puppy being delivered. In almost every case where I did see a green discharge before the first puppy, the labor would start within hours and there would be a dead puppy in the bunch. Fortunately those cases have been rare. I pray the momma and her baby do well. |
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It has never been a "good sign" for ME....while it has only been my experience 3 times over the years I have been breeding, it has always been the forebearer of a dead baby, when it occured prior to whelping....and my mentor, who has bred for over 35 years, was the one that told me what I was about to face when it happened to me the first time. There are always exceptions to the rule, but my blood runs cold when I see green discharge. |
For what it's worth, I've always been told a green discharge before the first puppy is a bad sign, AND my experience confirms it. When I see a green discharge before the birth of a puppy I go straight to the vet. In every case there has been a dead puppy holding up the normal progression of delivery. I must have missed that paragraph in the Myra Savant book I read. I'll now happily ignore the rest of what she has to say, I guess. |
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