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Yorkiemom1

07-21-2012 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by concretegurl (Post 3977582)

Yorkiemom can you link the petition?

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gemy posted the link on the "Animal Welfare APHIS thread"....thankx Gail for doing that !!!!

gemy	07-21-2012 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by concretegurl (Post 3977582)

Yorkiemom can you link the petition?

I posted the link again actually two links on teh Animal Welfare forum; the thread entitled APHIS.

One link will take you to AKC and the other link will take you to how to post a comment directly to APHIS. Every comment helps, trust me on this. Already they extended the date, and issued a FAQ sheet that purported to answer some of the overwhelmingly similiar comments made by many posters on the first go around.

gemy	07-21-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Yourkie1234 (Post 3977347)

Sorry yourkiemom1 I said I was new at this it was not for u to get upset or think I would not do what I had to do for my baby I asked for help and if it was no trouble :) and my baby is 2yrs old and one mo and she was 2.70 lbs and it's with the same size and age dog and if any one can help and tell me were I can go get this X-ray done were I am not gonna go broke due to me being laid off please help in chicago thank u;)

I hope that you made a typo error on that weight! If not your girl is in a world of trouble, and so are you. It matters little that the "male" is the same weight. It is likely that you have done NO research into the pedigrees, and understanding what size puppies your gal will throw. The female controls the size of the puppies; and do not make the mistake of thinking that just because she is tiney she will whelp tiny puppies!

If you actually had a vet that told you he could not tell you if she was pregnant, quite simply you need a NEW VET.

You have had at least three experienced(very) toy breeders tell you to get an emergency spay. PLEASE Listen to them. You stand a better than 50/50 chance of losing your girl. Either through some sort of whelping mishap, or because you have mentioned no MENTOR, you will not be able to tell early warning signs of something going off the rail.

You quite simply do NOT breed a female under 5lbs, for a very basic starter. I am aghast that your vet told you she would do fine having a litter!

Breeding is a very costly endeavour, and the ones who pay the ultimate cost are the females; and quite often with their life.

I know these comments must seem harsh to you, better harsh now, and maybe you will move heaven n earth to have your gal spayed, so YOU and it is only YOU, that can save her LIFE.

concretegurl

07-21-2012 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1 (Post 3977667)

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
gemy posted the link on the "Animal Welfare APHIS thread"....thankx Gail for doing that !!!!

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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3977670)

Thanks!

:thumbs up:good job:

Yourkie1234

07-22-2012 09:32 AM

Yes she I took her to pet smart and he could not tell u
Believe that :/

Yourkie1234

07-22-2012 09:34 AM

If u know one please tell me of one Chicago il

Yourkie1234

07-22-2012 09:40 AM

Too all that bash me look I just lost me
Job and bad timing for me I did not goin this
Sit to be called names and mk smart remarks ok
I asked my vet if she could mate he said yes
With one her size and age and I love my baby
She is my life ok so god help uz who bash on me and
Talk bad to me cuz believe it or not uz have a dog too
So beware and I well delete my profile and complain on
This web sit that I thought would give me
Some understanding but I was wrong :(

gemy	07-22-2012 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Yourkie1234 (Post 3978385)

Well given your bad English, go ahead and complain all you want! As I said in a previous post, your vet is an idiot, if he looked at a~ 2lb female, with a clueless and novice breeder, and said, it is Okay for her to whelp a litter. Given the right equipment any sad sack of a dog can mate; the question is SHOULD THEY BE BRED!!

Yes I have a dog, in fact more than one dog; and yes I am a breeder. I am a breeder, who prepares for all that breeding entails. Over 10 yrs of studying, assisting in whelping, showing and training my dogs. I've done all the health tests prior to breeding. I search, scruntinize, and spend buckets of time never mind money, to find the right stud for my gal.

So what you lost your job; prior to "planning" if indeed you did plan; on breeding your gal, you should have had at least 4-$5K set aside in a savings account, to tide you over, should there be any emergencies. And that is with a bitch that is the proper weight and had all health checks done. Not to mention the puppy care, shots, interviewing, and of course the HEALTH GUARANTEE you will offer prospective buyers.

You had no business breeding this gal, without the funds set aside to care for her. Did you have the "right", sadly yes, any idiot can breed a bitch. And it is the dog that suffers.

No apologies from me. I am just so very sorry for your bitch.

concretegurl

07-22-2012 12:58 PM

My favorite new quote is, "I can explain it to you, but I cannot understand it for you."

concretegurl

07-22-2012 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Yourkie1234 (Post 3978385)

While finding yourself find a new VET.

PLEASE name the vet who said this as it is well know NO vet would EVER recomend or take part other than provide after care in the breeding of any dog UNDER 5 pounds.

Some breeders reputable have bre 4 pound dogs abd their vets have reemed them, so I fail to see any truth in your statement.

nanahas3

07-22-2012 01:46 PM

Is it me or does this poster sound like "barkingyorkie" ?

Christinee

07-22-2012 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1 (Post 3977515)

OMG......deep breath....You MUST do two things. FIRST: I SUSPECT YOU DID NOT TAKE THIS BABY TO A BOARD CERTIFIED VET BECAUSE IT COST $$$$...THERE IS NOT A VET ALIVE IN THE CONTINENTAL USA, THAT HAS GRADUATED FROM A "REAL" SCHOOL OF VET.MEDICINE, THAT CAN NOT TELL IF A <3# PUP IS PREGNANT AT 6 WEEKS GESTATION! If you did indeed see a vet and he told you he can not tell if that baby is pregnant, CHANGE VETS IMMEDIATELY!!! Second: You must have this baby spayed/aborted immediately. She is too tiny physically to carry a litter of puppies. She is too tiny to deliver a puppy. She will have to have a c-section. I am sorry, but I am stunned and amazed and in complete awe that you would ever have allowed this tiny dog to be bred. It grieves my soul that people will blindly stumble, completely uninformed, into breeding any animal, apparently with nothing more than fingers crossed and a rabbits foot for luck. It is so unfortunate FOR THE ANIMAL that there are people that think they can throw a male and female together, have babies, and sell those babies for BIG BUCKS (BECAUSE THEY ARE YORKIES), and it wont cost them a dime to do it!!! Clear profit!! SO UNTRUE AND MISGUIDED.....and who suffers for a humans greed and callousness??? the poor animal, the innocent one in all this. This little dog has no one to care for her, keep her safe, provide what she needs, but her human. She looks to her human, like a child, to protect her, to do what is best for HER....and you have fallen sooooooo short of that responsibility.
People want to know what can be done to stop puppy mills???? THIS is what needs to be stopped, AT THIS JUNCTURE!! Here is the problem at its inception!!! Rather than strangle and drive responsible small breeders out of business with constraints and restrictions and mounding license fees, FIGURE OUT A WAY TO STOP THIS! I am so sorry for the rant and rave, but this just makes me absolutely crazy....to think the "authorities" are trying to over regulate me to drive me out of business, and you have THIS kind of thing going on....and if the proposed bills cropping up all over the country, especially that one the Federal government is pushing now, succeed in passing, THIS IS WHAT YOU PET LOVERS WILL BE BUYING YOUR PETS FROM IN THE NEAR FUTURE!!!! THIS should drive every single person on this site, straight to the AKC.org site to sign the petition against the proposed federal bill!

Wow. I didn't know about all this. I'll sign the petition.

geo78

07-23-2012 08:45 AM

this will go against the grain (sort of) for some but...my dog is 4 weeks preg 9lb expecting 5 pups she is 2 years old and i could tell from 2 weeks....
the milk bar gets a little bigger. right now she sleeps loads and is slightly off her food.
2lb is a bit small so perhaps be ready for c section if she is past 28 days then a vet can scan. right now at 32 days i can feel pups when i put my fingers lightly on her belly.
i couldnt upload a photo but this should giive you an idea...it is my facebook photo album
puppies | Facebook

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